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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Polievre is the necessary change.  He can be abrasive.  Lewis is the social conservative conscious.  She is very cool.  Charest is the safe bet, but he shouldn’t lead.  Let him be the diplomat. 

Might as well just vote Trudeau if charest wins

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7 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Did you get a job, or are you still parasitic?  Trudeau's your clown. You're not fooling anybody.

Yes I have a job you know that Clown.and I voted NDP in 2021 not trudeai but annoyed they didn't give Singh the boot after 2 trys and only gaining 2 seats so Am willing to give conservative party a chance if they can get a moderate leader like brown 

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6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Pierre promises to axe the carbon tax. Go Pierre.

And to fire the Bank Of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem, blaming him for inflation??

And his shilling for crypto currency??

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/terra-luna-ust-crypto-price-crash-b2076655.html

Does Pierre have half a clue??
Methinks the Conservatives are in trouble... all the way.

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Andrew Coyne surveys the landscape.  His assessment is that mindless partisanship has given way to fringe binging.  

 

Many conservatives feel that way.

"the campaign, like the party, is not nearly ideological enough. This has been a problem for many years. In the Harper years, the party renounced most serious ideological differences with the Liberals in favour of mindless partisanship.

In its current incarnation, it leans more to out and out wackjobbery: conspiracy theories of various kinds – is it George Soros who is secretly controlling our lives, or is it the World Economic Forum? – vaccine denialism, and cheering on the lawless mob that took over Ottawa earlier this year.

Oh yes, and shilling for bitcoin, as an alternative to the dollar.

Three of the five candidates on the podium last Thursday represented some hue of this sort of thinking."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-vaccine-refusal-blockades-bitcoin-what-does-any-of-this-have-to-do/

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46 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Andrew Coyne surveys the landscape.  His assessment is that mindless partisanship has given way to fringe binging.  

 

Many conservatives feel that way.

"the campaign, like the party, is not nearly ideological enough. This has been a problem for many years. In the Harper years, the party renounced most serious ideological differences with the Liberals in favour of mindless partisanship.

In its current incarnation, it leans more to out and out wackjobbery: conspiracy theories of various kinds – is it George Soros who is secretly controlling our lives, or is it the World Economic Forum? – vaccine denialism, and cheering on the lawless mob that took over Ottawa earlier this year.

Oh yes, and shilling for bitcoin, as an alternative to the dollar.

Three of the five candidates on the podium last Thursday represented some hue of this sort of thinking."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-vaccine-refusal-blockades-bitcoin-what-does-any-of-this-have-to-do/

Lol...does the prospect of an alternative currency bother you? Not institutionalized enough maybe?

The CPC need a strong leader who is actually conservative. Not some limp version blessed by The Globe.

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20 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...does the prospect of an alternative currency bother you? Not institutionalized enough maybe?

The CPC need a strong leader who is actually conservative. Not some limp version blessed by The Globe.

What is an "alternative currency"? Something that is traded on an open market that can be worth a lot one day and nothing the next?

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/terra-luna-ust-crypto-price-crash-b2076655.html

They need a leader to be endorsed by people and that is the problem for the CPC. The CPC needs a leader that can win and in the past 16 years has failed in finding one.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

What is an "alternative currency"? Something that is traded on an open market that can be worth a lot one day and nothing the next?

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/terra-luna-ust-crypto-price-crash-b2076655.html

They need a leader to be endorsed by people and that is the problem for the CPC. The CPC needs a leader that can win and in the past 16 years has failed in finding one.

 

 

And IMO, the reason they've failed is that they've left the conservative base out in the cold while they cater to Libbies.

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24 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

1. What is an "alternative currency"? Something that is traded on an open market that can be worth a lot one day and nothing the next?

1. Exactly.  We can see what happens when the loonies have an impact on health policy (see USA death rates vs. Canada death rates due to Covid).  One can imagine the unmitigated financial disaster when these moronic know-it-alls start preaching to use from the YouTube bible on how we need to float the currency on clown coins or some f*cking such.

Get your hands off my savings, please and thank you.

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1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

And IMO, the reason they've failed is that they've left the conservative base out in the cold while they cater to Libbies.

Or maybe the CPC has not had a leader that can convince all the people (let alone their own party) to get on board?

Not sure PP is the mainstream man for the job (yet). He is behaving kinda Trumpian.

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54 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

CPC need a strong leader who is actually conservative. Not some limp version blessed by The Globe.

Coyne is pretty respected as a Conservative commentator, unlike the YouTube street corner prophets of late.  Conservatives used to be known for pragmatism and listening to their elders.

This Bitcoin nerd Poilievre seems unsound.

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Also - to point out that Coyne EXPLICITLY STATES that going Liberal is a losing strategy.

For those of you who can read - Bitcoin, Convoys and getting angry over MASKS are not Conservative ideology.

Neither is brainless raging.  Come up with a balanced opposition to Trudeau or lose the 4th election in a row to him.  That's right  FOURTH.

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3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Or maybe the CPC has not had a leader that can convince all the people (let alone their own party) to get on board?

Not sure PP is the mainstream man for the job (yet). He is behaving kinda Trumpian.

Is that bad? I mean...Trump's presidency was wildly successful.

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But this Conservative leadership campaign is something else again, one that appears to be about neither the leadership – the party gives every sign of having made up its mind already – nor policy. Rather, at least to judge by last week’s candidates’ debate, the only issue is who can take the most unhinged positions on the fringiest topics.

The only question is whether Peter Pepper will flip centrist once in office like so many others, and incur the wrath of his fiery eyed faithful...

[SIRI VOICE]

Rage complete.

Thank you for reading.  You are now better off.

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14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Coyne is pretty respected as a Conservative commentator, unlike the YouTube street corner prophets of late.  Conservatives used to be known for pragmatism and listening to their elders.

This Bitcoin nerd Poilievre seems unsound.

My dear Micheal...the CPC is attempting to move back to the values and positions of its traditional base. Its also recognized that conservatives are incredibly concerned about the direction this country is headed in.

China poisoned the planet and must be dealt with accordingly.

The fossil fuel industry is being hamstrung by a silly ideology.

Our current government has shown us that they don't really give a rat's ass about the rights and freedoms of the Canadian people.

But I have a suggestion that might just work for you. Quit pretending to be a conservative. Come out of the closet and be what you are...a Libbie. You'll feel better about yourself and you might even gain back some respect.

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26 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Is that bad? I mean...Trump's presidency was wildly successful.

The worst or second worst president in the US history was successful?  Or popular to some?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/trump-worst-president-history/617730/

https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/articles/ranking-americas-worst-presidents

 

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3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Andrew Coyne surveys the landscape.  His assessment is that mindless partisanship has given way to fringe binging.  

 

Many conservatives feel that way.

"the campaign, like the party, is not nearly ideological enough. This has been a problem for many years. In the Harper years, the party renounced most serious ideological differences with the Liberals in favour of mindless partisanship.

In its current incarnation, it leans more to out and out wackjobbery: conspiracy theories of various kinds – is it George Soros who is secretly controlling our lives, or is it the World Economic Forum? – vaccine denialism, and cheering on the lawless mob that took over Ottawa earlier this year.

Oh yes, and shilling for bitcoin, as an alternative to the dollar.

Three of the five candidates on the podium last Thursday represented some hue of this sort of thinking."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-vaccine-refusal-blockades-bitcoin-what-does-any-of-this-have-to-do/

Typical MSM Liberal cheerleading from Coyne, a formerly conservative columnist.  He’s another old-worldy Charest type.  Other than fiscal conservatism, I don’t see much meaningful critique in his commentary.  The influence of the WEF and other international bodies, as well as the special interest so called “philanthropy” of Soros, are anti-democratic forces.  Did any Canadians vote for digital identification systems and politically-motivated asset seizures?   The fact that you’re so dismissive of these influences is exactly why we cannot have Liberal post-nationalist enablers like Charest in charge.  He doesn’t understand current issues.  That’s why Polievre has the support of the youth.  Coyne is legacy media.  Lewis understands these issues too, but Polievre took an early lead discussing them.  

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