Is Canada becoming a Communist state?

[WestCanMan]

On 5/30/2021 at 9:45 AM, myata said:

The amount of trash in public places in large cities like Toronto, Ottawa is disgusting and sometimes approaches the pattern seen in the third world.

When you go to a place where there are lots of sikhs you find a lot of restaurants with sikh cuisine. When you go to a place with a lot of kids you see a lot of elementary schools. When you go to places with a lot of gangs you see a lot of violence and drug usage. Why wouldn't you expect to see traces of the 3rd world in areas where people from the 3rd world are living myata? What would you expect to see there?

[WestCanMan]

Maybe we're becoming commies, but the commies don't like us: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/tasha-kheiriddin-the-worlds-love-affair-with-justin-trudeau-ends-on-a-sour-note?fbclid=IwAR0RLBPE4YysKH-L_pVgZHw78LLljsmGI2yvLCK_HKeGfJSQuJWM1Jw873M

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a Chinese official tweeted caustically at Trudeau: “Boy, your greatest achievement is to have ruined the friendly relations between China and Canada, and have turned Canada into a running dog of the US.”

I love that China treats our idiot PM like trash lol.

Their own propaganda outlet also roasted him when he tried to pretend that "Our government here doesn't interfere in matters of the court" by pointing out his SNC/JWR scandal. 

[Yzermandius19]

51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Maybe we're becoming commies, but the commies don't like us: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/tasha-kheiriddin-the-worlds-love-affair-with-justin-trudeau-ends-on-a-sour-note?fbclid=IwAR0RLBPE4YysKH-L_pVgZHw78LLljsmGI2yvLCK_HKeGfJSQuJWM1Jw873M

I love that China treats our idiot PM like trash lol.

Their own propaganda outlet also roasted him when he tried to pretend that "Our government here doesn't interfere in matters of the court" by pointing out his SNC/JWR scandal. 

Communists are not a monolith

that's how America won the Cold War

they stopped buying into the domino theory as much

and exploited the fact that the Communists often hated each other more than they hated America

only Nixon can go to China

the Commies have always been vulnerable to divide and conquer

just look at the woke, who turn on themselves all the time

eating their own in the classic leftist purity spiral

as a contemporary example

they always do it, like clockwork

French Revolution happens, then the left turned on each other, the result, Napoleon

Russian Revolution happens, then the left turned on each other, the result, Stalin

Chinese Communist Revolution happens, then the left turned on each other, the result, Mao

no one kills more Commies, than the Commies themselves

after the Commies seize power, the useful idiots who brought them to power, are swiftly thrown under the bus

starved to death, lined up against a wall and shot, put to the guillotine, etc

it's the way she goes

 

Edited June 16, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[blackbird]

With the introduction of bills C10 and C36 it is becoming more clear Canada is moving toward becoming a Marxist state.  These bills will introduce serious punishment of up to $70,000 in fines and house arrest for violators.  Who is to decide what is "hate speech"?  The government of course.  What is next?  A Gulag for offenders.  The government has the examples of the USSR, Russia, and Communist China on how to do it.

With Bill C-36, Trudeau Government Launches Dangerous New Assault On Your Freedom Of Expression - Spencer Fernando

Edited July 1, 2021 by blackbird

[blackbird]

On 6/15/2021 at 10:44 PM, Yzermandius19 said:

Communists are not a monolith

that's how America won the Cold War

they stopped buying into the domino theory as much

and exploited the fact that the Communists often hated each other more than they hated America

only Nixon can go to China

the Commies have always been vulnerable to divide and conquer

just look at the woke, who turn on themselves all the time

eating their own in the classic leftist purity spiral

as a contemporary example

they always do it, like clockwork

French Revolution happens, then the left turned on each other, the result, Napoleon

Russian Revolution happens, then the left turned on each other, the result, Stalin

Chinese Communist Revolution happens, then the left turned on each other, the result, Mao

no one kills more Commies, than the Commies themselves

after the Commies seize power, the useful idiots who brought them to power, are swiftly thrown under the bus

starved to death, lined up against a wall and shot, put to the guillotine, etc

it's the way she goes

 

You're correct, the Commies don't like Canada.  Maybe Canada will be a kind of hybrid Commie-Marxist-liberal progressive country.  Commies don't have much use for liberal/progressives.

It is interesting to recall that Canada's flag was once red, blue, and white.  When PM Lester Pearson brought in the new flag, the Conservative Party wanted to also have some blue in the flag.  The Liberals rejected that and only allowed red in the flag, which of course is the official liberal colour.  No compromise and cooperation allowed.  It had to be a red maple leaf.  Why not green?  Why not allow some blue in the flag?  No way.  The Marxist mind was at work and it had to be their way.  Red, the colour of Commies and Marxists.

Edited July 1, 2021 by blackbird

[dialamah]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

You're correct, the Commies don't like Canada.  Maybe Canada will be a kind of hybrid Commie-Marxist-liberal progressive country.  Commies don't have much use for liberal/progressives.

It is interesting to recall that Canada's flag was once red, blue, and white.  When PM Lester Pearson brought in the new flag, the Conservative Party wanted to also have some blue in the flag.  The Liberals rejected that and only allowed red in the flag, which of course is the official liberal colour.  No compromise and cooperation allowed.  It had to be a red maple leaf.  Why not green?  Why not allow some blue in the flag?  No way.  The Marxist mind was at work and it had to be their way.  Red, the colour of Commies and Marxists.

You don't live in Canada, do you.

[Yzermandius19]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

You're correct, the Commies don't like Canada.  Maybe Canada will be a kind of hybrid Commie-Marxist-liberal progressive country.  Commies don't have much use for liberal/progressives.

It is interesting to recall that Canada's flag was once red, blue, and white.  When PM Lester Pearson brought in the new flag, the Conservative Party wanted to also have some blue in the flag.  The Liberals rejected that and only allowed red in the flag, which of course is the official liberal colour.  No compromise and cooperation allowed.  It had to be a red maple leaf.  Why not green?  Why not allow some blue in the flag?  No way.  The Marxist mind was at work and it had to be their way.  Red, the colour of Commies and Marxists.

it's more of a Nazi thing

Germany changed it's flag to a Swastika in 1935

Canada changed it's flag to a Maple Leaf in 1965

the Nazi flag has red on the outside and white in the middle 

the Liberal flag has red on the outside and white in the middle

the swastika is black, the maple leaf is red, that's the biggest difference

the Nazi's changed the flag to replace German history with revisionist history filtered through Nazi ideology

the Liberals changed the flag to replace Canadian history with revisionist history filtered through Liberal ideology

the Nazi's wanted to hide Nazi Germany's roots in Imperial Germany

the Liberals wanted to hide Canada's roots in the British Empire

Edited July 2, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

You don't live in Canada, do you.

Oh Canada, our home and native land.  Where did it go? 

 We still have the Queen.  God save the Queen.  We still have some wilderness where one can escape the maddening crowds of liberal and left progressive politicians, media, and their drones.  And most important we have God and his revelation, who is in control above it all and will deliver those who by his gift of faith and salvation trust in his Son.  According to the Bible, those who believe the gospel are saved for eternity while those who reject it will be lost for eternity.  So the circus on earth is just passing noise.

Edited July 2, 2021 by blackbird

[Zeitgeist]

7 hours ago, blackbird said:

Oh Canada, our home and native land.  Where did it go? 

 We still have the Queen.  God save the Queen.  We still have some wilderness where one can escape the maddening crowds of liberal and left progressive politicians, media, and their drones.  And most important we have God and his revelation, who is in control above it all and will deliver those who by his gift of faith and salvation trust in his Son.  According to the Bible, those who believe the gospel are saved for eternity while those who reject it will be lost for eternity.  So the circus on earth is just passing noise.

The anarchists, Marxists, and nihilists want to destroy all of that and governments are looking the other way. When Canada’s own leaders hesitate to defend her and the protections of our institutions, including public property, we’re all vulnerable.

https://apple.news/AgbViqFv3Rhukuo8Ey_cPOA

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

1. The anarchists, Marxists, and nihilists want to destroy all of that and governments are looking the other way.

2. When Canada’s own leaders hesitate to defend her and the protections of our institutions, including public property, we’re all vulnerable.

https://apple.news/AgbViqFv3Rhukuo8Ey_cPOA

1. Probably because the threat is negligible
2. Another way to look at it is that we're confident in our institutions and not afraid of protest.  There was a group called "Canadian Revolution" that openly camped at the National War Memorial, harassed Jagmeet Singh and others and tried to arrest Trudeau.  It only made the news when one of them went a little far and got little notice.

Another example might be the alt-right posters on here who unpatriotically disparage Canada and its culture of tolerance to no end.  

Oh well.

[Zeitgeist]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Probably because the threat is negligible
2. Another way to look at it is that we're confident in our institutions and not afraid of protest.  There was a group called "Canadian Revolution" that openly camped at the National War Memorial, harassed Jagmeet Singh and others and tried to arrest Trudeau.  It only made the news when one of them went a little far and got little notice.

Another example might be the alt-right posters on here who unpatriotically disparage Canada and its culture of tolerance to no end.  

Oh well.

Destroying public property isn’t peaceful protest and I also don’t think the threats are negligible when they include threats or violence.  The alt-right have played a role in this as well.  Law enforcement should be consistently applied.  

Edited July 2, 2021 by Zeitgeist

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

1. Destroying public property isn’t peaceful protest and I also don’t think the threats are negligible when they include threats or violence.  
2. The alt-right have played a role in this as well.  Law enforcement should be consistently applied.  

1. Well, that's the thing.  I don't doubt that individual threats are taken seriously but the movement of 'anarchists, Marxists, communists' is not taken as seriously ... nor are the more prevalent alt-right Canadian Revolutionaries>
2. Agreed.

[myata]

Canada is not a communist state, communism is an ideology one of many and there aren't many signs that it has wide support, at least as yet. But the country run by an entitled self-absorbed bureaucracy with very few checks and very low accountability to the society. And that is certainly how authoritarian and totalitarian societies are run. So let's not confuse the cause and the symptoms. Communism invariably ends up with unlimited rule of bureaucracy for the same reason it appears to be happening in this country: total, unlimited rule without any checks, accountability and controls.

[Yzermandius19]

48 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well, that's the thing.  I don't doubt that individual threats are taken seriously but the movement of 'anarchists, Marxists, communists' is not taken as seriously ... nor are the more prevalent alt-right Canadian Revolutionaries>
2. Agreed.

the alt-left is far more prominent than the alt-right and should be taken more seriously, including by you

[Michael Hardner]

21 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the alt-left is far more prominent than the alt-right and should be taken more seriously, including by you

I don't agree.  Right-wing terrorism is certainly taken more seriously by law enforcement.  Whatever happened in the US Capitol on Jan 6th couldn't have happened if there were a left wing mob outside.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't agree.  Right-wing terrorism is certainly taken more seriously by law enforcement.  Whatever happened in the US Capitol on Jan 6th couldn't have happened if there were a left wing mob outside.

the left did far more damage when it comes to rioting than the right did at the capitol

pull your head out of your ass

the capitol riots was a nothingburger compared to the BLM riots after George Floyd died

be serious, enough of the partisan hackery

Edited July 2, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

1. the left did far more damage when it comes to rioting than the right did at the capitol

2. pull your head out of your ass

 

1. If you want to attribute any amount of crime in the vicinity of BLM protests, then maybe ... but invading the capitol is a far bigger threat to both persons, and the fabric of the institutions there.

2. Ok - remember that bit I said about building good faith ?  You just lost it.  if you care to apologize we can continue, thanks.  If you don't agree with my point, so be it.  You didn't address the one about law enforcement concerns about alt-right terror groups either.  And I would say if you want to have a real discussion, leave extreme groups out of it altogether.  You are going to have to talk to people to sympathize with them, albeit quietly.
 

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. If you want to attribute any amount of crime in the vicinity of BLM protests, then maybe ... but invading the capitol is a far bigger threat to both persons, and the fabric of the institutions there.

except the BLM riots resulted in far more deaths, injuries and property damage than the capitol riots

and have done far more damage to the fabric of America's institutions

you just can't see it, because you have partisan blinders on

and only want to tunnel vision on the crimes of the right while ignoring or downplaying those of the left

Edited July 2, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[OftenWrong]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You are going to have to talk to people to sympathize with them, albeit quietly.

Yes, whispering lies is better than shouting...

[blackbird]

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't agree.  Right-wing terrorism is certainly taken more seriously by law enforcement.  Whatever happened in the US Capitol on Jan 6th couldn't have happened if there were a left wing mob outside.

In the past 18 months the alt left or antifa/BLM destroyed and burned many properties and vehicles in various cities in the U.S., but we hear very little about investigating that.  Yet the Jan. 6 riot at the WH is the centre of attention to the Democrats in the U.S. and they say very little about the carnage caused by antifa in the past year and half, which was far greater damage than the Jan. 6 riot.  The difference is the Jan.6 riot came into the corridors of power and scared the heck out of the federal politicians.  But when antifa burned down businesses across the U.S. it doesn't seem to bother them.

As for Canada, the government took action and declared the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and possibly a few other tiny groups as terrorist organizations although they had done no damage to property or harmed anyone in Canada as far as I know.  At least I don't recall seeing anything on the news.  I suppose they think they are being proactive, but I'm not sure how that fits in with the Charter of Rights.  If thinking a group are terrorists (meaning potential terrorists) without them actually having committed any terrorist acts in Canada is enough to declare them as a terrorist organization, then I can think of some other groups in Canada that could be declared as terrorist groups. What about all the churches that are being burned down?

Edited July 2, 2021 by blackbird

[OftenWrong]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

As for Canada, the government took action and declared the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and possibly a few other tiny groups as terrorist organizations although they had done no damage to property or harmed anyone in Canada as far as I know.

It was done for the virtue signalling. This government seeks to lick US Democrat ass whatever chance it gets.

Just like the sad spectacle of Liberal leaders and mayors calling for defunding the police... in Canada!

Let's have some quietly whispered discourse on that...

[Yzermandius19]

the only damage done to American institutions by the capitol riots

was by the overreaction of the Democrats to them

the alt-right may become more dangerous than the alt-left in the future

as a backlash against the danger posed by the alt-left 

but that is nowhere near the case right now

Edited July 2, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

except ...

Whatever - do you want to keep talking to me or not ?

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Whatever - do you want to keep talking to me or not ?

I have no strong feelings one way or the other

nor do I understand why you should care either way

Edited July 2, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[OftenWrong]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Whatever - do you want to keep talking to me or not ?

I'll talk to you, darlin...