America under President Trump

eyeball · May 14, 2020

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It was the main news item 24/7 for 3 years, and it was fake. That's a big deal, FYI.

Okay if you say so. Arrest the fakers, charge them, try them and lock them up. A little sooner than later would a nice change.

Thanks. Good luck, enjoy.

Tdot · May 14, 2020

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Arrest the fakers, charge them, try them and lock them up. A little sooner than later would a nice change.

Thanks. Good luck, enjoy.

uhhh, no, it does not work that way.

Therefore please be fair and be equitable, yes give your remedy for Trump and his comrades to be made whole again, or returned to the sanctity of that Nov 2016 day before Dems launched these illegal processes.

That is the part you cannot trivialize here, in terms of the electorate and the voting citizenry, with respect to how they now frown upon Trump re: Election Day in November as a result of the many many episodes of illegal processes the Dems execute like this one.

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WestCanMan · May 14, 2020

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Okay if you say so. Arrest the fakers, charge them, try them and lock them up. A little sooner than later would a nice change.

Thanks. Good luck, enjoy.

Your trite, pathetic response just indicates that you have no clue how important and powerful the MSM is to a healthy democracy.

eyeball · May 14, 2020

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Your trite, pathetic response just indicates that you have no clue how important and powerful the MSM is to a healthy democracy.

I thought you hated the MSM, whatever that is. In any case I'm quite well aware of how important a free press and I make it a point to watch several media sources from around the world. What still isn't apparently evident to you or is how trite I think the differences between the two halves of the political duopoly tearing the US apart are. The US ceased to be a healthy democracy decades ago and American media has clearly played a role but you act as if that's recent news or something only you're aware of.

Serious question, just how old are you anyway?

Michael Hardner · May 14, 2020

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

I thought you hated the MSM, whatever that is. In any case I'm quite well aware of how important a free press and I make it a point to watch several media sources from around the world.

Not sure if you are examining the US example. Their number one MSM source is FOX News, which is now actually downplaying the Covid crisis in favour of a new scandal called Obamagate, which seems to be created as a purposeful distraction.

They are covering the angle of discrediting Fauchi ('he wasn't even elected !')

I am intrigued by the idea of electing scientists, as that would be a great advance in the sophisticated customization of reality.

eyeball · May 14, 2020

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I am intrigued by the idea of electing scientists, as that would be a great advance in the sophisticated customization of reality.

The new imams.

Boges · May 14, 2020

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, you must have also seen that all the Dems who pretended to have seen evidence when the were in front of a tv all said the exact opposite when they were under oath in Congress.

Russian collusion was a made for tv event without any basis in reality. 3 years worth of investigations and coercion turned up nothing.

1) The Russia investigation was started by Republicans

2) Trump pretty much ignored all Democrat subpoenas. So of course all the evidence is circumstantial. It's a pretty interesting precedent for when a Dem re-takes the White House.

Boges · May 14, 2020

14 hours ago, Tdot said:

Civil rights were violated, and it caused death by way of lynching negros ---no leap in logic there, whatsoever, unless you own a white sheet and pointy hood. Obama hates darkskinned-Black males so he filed no charges against any racist White cops.

Obama did not make it federal when he definitely should have. We can't say the same, when it comes to Trump protecting the civil rights of negros who get lynched by racist White people.

I suspect you have no idea what lynching is.

Is it also racist that Trump never ensured charges were filed in the Aubrey killing?

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Tdot · May 14, 2020

42 minutes ago, Boges said:

I suspect you have no idea what lynching is.

I suspect you are happy about what happened to mr. Aubrey

And yes, the denotative meaning of the lynchings in the USA, I repeat, in the USA is when racist White people use the guise of the local law to get away with premeditated murders of harmless unsuspecting Negro USA citizens.

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Is it also racist that Trump never ensured charges were filed in the Aubrey killing?

Well since this was some state's county case and not a federal case, did you fail to know the law before commenting? Trump cannot get involved, whatsoever, until it becomes probable that the state of Georgia failed to protect the civil rights of the citizen ---and since the Prosecutor lied to all of us? I bet you've found a way to blame Trump, eh?

New World Disorder · May 14, 2020

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-rejects-fisa-amendment-to-bar-warrantless-surveillance-of-web-browser-history-library-records

Why does America hate freedom? Becoming more like China as the days to on!

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The Senate on Wednesday narrowly rejected an amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) which would have prohibited law enforcement officials from monitoring people's web browsing or internet search history without obtaining a warrant first.

The Senate voted 59-37 in favor of the amendment, which would have tacked on measures to a FISA reform bill that already passed in the House with substantial bipartisan support, but 60 senators needed to approve it for the amendment to pass.

Wow and this has been going on for a few years now.

WestCanMan · May 14, 2020

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

I thought you hated the MSM, whatever that is. In any case I'm quite well aware of how important a free press and I make it a point to watch several media sources from around the world. What still isn't apparently evident to you or is how trite I think the differences between the two halves of the political duopoly tearing the US apart are. The US ceased to be a healthy democracy decades ago and American media has clearly played a role but you act as if that's recent news or something only you're aware of.

Serious question, just how old are you anyway?

Too old to appreciate your childish, store-bought opinions.

Shady · May 14, 2020

57 minutes ago, Tdot said:

I suspect you are happy about what happened to mr. Aubrey

And yes, the denotative meaning of the lynchings in the USA, I repeat, in the USA is when racist White people use the guise of the local law to get away with premeditated murders of harmless unsuspecting Negro USA citizens.

Well since this was some state's county case and not a federal case, did you fail to know the law before commenting? Trump cannot get involved, whatsoever, until it becomes probable that the state of Georgia failed to protect the civil rights of the citizen ---and since the Prosecutor lied to all of us? I bet you've found a way to blame Trump, eh?

Yep, more Trump Derangement Syndrome, that's why ignore this particular poster, he's certifiably insane. He also lies constantly. The Federal government would only get involved if that case is brought to their attention. It's just more sad derangement. I feel sorry for these people, that they're so consumed with somebody, literally 24 hours a day.

WestCanMan · May 14, 2020

2 hours ago, Boges said:

1) The Russia investigation was started by Republicans

2) Trump pretty much ignored all Democrat subpoenas. So of course all the evidence is circumstantial. It's a pretty interesting precedent for when a Dem re-takes the White House.

1) The dossier was started by Republicans, but that's not to say what was in it when Hillary took over. The never used it so they obviously didn't find anything of value.

2) Trump provided millions of pages, his team did 100's of interviews, he did enough, considering that he has a country to run, and how much of a gongshow it was at the end of Obama's last term. Hillary always ignores subpoenas, and she has gone into two separate FBI interrogations and said nothing but "I don't remember" over 100 times. When a Dem gets into the Whitehouse should there be a 3 yr-long smear campaign disguised as an investigation?

Boges · May 14, 2020

48 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) The dossier was started by Republicans, but that's not to say what was in it when Hillary took over. The never used it so they obviously didn't find anything of value.

The Mueller investigation was started when the GOP was in full control of the House, Senate, WH and DOJ. The Dems played no part in its genesis. They couldn't even command hearings until 2019.

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2) Trump provided millions of pages, his team did 100's of interviews, he did enough, considering that he has a country to run, and how much of a gongshow it was at the end of Obama's last term. Hillary always ignores subpoenas, and she has gone into two separate FBI interrogations and said nothing but "I don't remember" over 100 times. When a Dem gets into the Whitehouse should there be a 3 yr-long smear campaign disguised as an investigation?

Then why weren't charges laid on Hillary.

WestCanMan · May 14, 2020

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

The Mueller investigation was started when the GOP was in full control of the House, Senate, WH and DOJ. The Dems played no part in its genesis. They couldn't even command hearings until 2019.

Then why weren't charges laid on Hillary.

Strzok started it, the GOP just didn't overrule.

Strzok, again.

Boges · May 14, 2020

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Strzok started it, the GOP just didn't overrule.

Strzok, again.

So some low level guy has the authority to start an investigation and it wasn't stopped after it was found out he was partisan. Still sounds like a GOP problem. And that included the AG at the time recusing himself. Did Strzok make him to that too?

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Queenmandy85 · May 14, 2020

251 days to Inauguration day.

bush_cheney2004 · May 14, 2020

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Not sure if you are examining the US example. Their number one MSM source is FOX News,....

No....Fox News Channel is only the #1 cable news source, not MSM source. The American broadcast networks have a much larger audience share. CBS' 60 Minutes is one of the highest rated programs in U.S. prime time.

WestCanMan · May 14, 2020

2 hours ago, Boges said:

So some low level guy has the authority to start an investigation and it wasn't stopped after it was found out he was partisan. Still sounds like a GOP problem. And that included the AG at the time recusing himself. Did Strzok make him to that too?

Strzok wasn't a "low-level guy".

The AG recused himself simply because he had been in contact with Russian officials and so he was part of the investigation. There's nothing incriminating about that.

It would be more inappropriate for him to be the head of the investigation when he was a subject in it.

WestCanMan · May 14, 2020

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Their number one MSM source is FOX News, which is now actually downplaying the Covid crisis in favour of a new scandal called Obamagate, which seems to be created as a purposeful distraction.

They are covering the angle of discrediting Fauchi ('he wasn't even elected !')

I am intrigued by the idea of electing scientists, as that would be a great advance in the sophisticated customization of reality.

The covid crisis isn't being downplayed, they spend 12 hours a day talking about it on Fox.

FYI Fox News has been talking about covid for a lot longer than the Dems and their MSM and they're still covering it. January and February on CNN et al was all about Russian collusion, Ukrainian collusion and the Dem Primaries. Go look for yourself. At the debates they only asked 1 covid question and the debated went to mid-February.

An example of downplaying something is CBC's coverage of LavScam, which was lukewarm and omitted coverage of the fact that SNC Lavalin has a criminal history of bribing Liberal politicians in Canada. They also didn't make much noise about the fact that MP's were forbidden to co-operate with the RCMP and that the PM was punching down on the AG after he fired her, and she was forbidden to speak in her own defence because of client privilege.

Obamagate isn't new at all, it's 3 years old (march 2017 they were talking about it), you're just hearing about it now because the "news" you watch didn't notice FBI members being fired and demoted for malfeasance. It wasn't "news" (it ran contrary to their narrative).

Shady · May 14, 2020

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Strzok wasn't a "low-level guy".

The AG recused himself simply because he had been in contact with Russian officials and so he was part of the investigation. There's nothing incriminating about that.

It would be more inappropriate for him to be the head of the investigation when he was a subject in it.

That's what I mean by the constant lying by this particular poster. Characterizing Peter Strzok as a low-level guy is about as incorrect and disingenuous as it gets. That's why I stopped responding to this particular poster. He's honestly deranged.

Shady · May 14, 2020

9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Not sure if you are examining the US example. Their number one MSM source is FOX News, which is now actually downplaying the Covid crisis in favour of a new scandal called Obamagate, which seems to be created as a purposeful distraction.

They are covering the angle of discrediting Fauchi ('he wasn't even elected !')

I am intrigued by the idea of electing scientists, as that would be a great advance in the sophisticated customization of reality.

Come'on Michael, you don't even watch Fox News, so stop insisting what their coverage is. If you're referring to the opinion programming in the evening, it actually varies depending on the person/show. They didn't downplay covid at all, but there have been legitimate questions about the science behind some of the decisions made by levels of government, especially pertaining to lockdowns. They're also very critical of China. The mainstream media doesn't even know China exists, let alone the part China played in allowing the virus to become a pandemic. They're too busy covering how Trump is rude to reporters. You know, the really important stuff! :lol:

Michael Hardner · May 14, 2020

3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No....Fox News Channel is only the #1 cable news source, not MSM source. The American broadcast networks have a much larger audience share. CBS' 60 Minutes is one of the highest rated programs in U.S. prime time.

This ... I did NOT know. You are a know it all, but you knew that I'm a know-a-bunch-but-not enough...

Michael Hardner · May 14, 2020

49 minutes ago, Shady said:

1. Come'on Michael, you don't even watch Fox News, so stop insisting what their coverage is.
2. If you're referring to the opinion programming in the evening, it actually varies depending on the person/show. They didn't downplay covid at all, ...
3. The mainstream media doesn't even know China exists, let alone the part China played in allowing the virus to become a pandemic. They're too busy covering how Trump is rude to reporters. You know, the really important stuff!

1. Not correct. I do check it out, and go to the website often.
2. This is a recent event - yesterday I think - and I noticed it before I saw it covered.
3. FOX is mainstream media.

taxme · May 14, 2020

22 hours ago, Tdot said:

Well all I can say here is that you must be far, far less beautiful than me ---because your blind eyes prevented you from seeing that no one on this website dislikes liberal Dems more than I do. Clearly you are shooting your mouth off, having never read my posts and threads I create lol. I've basically written dissertations, nearly, explaining the nuances of the many laws that the Dems broke in illegally going after Mike Flynn.

I ph-kd up, again. I took your reply to WC as mocking him. My mistake. Sorry fella.