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Pierre Poilievre seemed to have a one dimensionality in most of his exchanges with the Liberals . . . endless slogans, and a personal 'harshness' in his manner. This didn't change the fact that he would be a better policy maker than Trudeau (who had no policy other than to make himself look good) but, there was that harshness that turned many off. This was so very apparent in the taped interview where Pierre Poilievre eats his apple while a journalist tries to bait and trap him. Very arrogant, very disrespectful to any viewer of any stripe. Not the 'stuff' leaders are made of. I did hope the Conservatives would win this election . . .

and then there was Trump, and Poilievre sounded like him, so they were. 🤡 Yeah but nobody gives a shit what you think or what you say. This weird notion you have that insisting on something hard enough manifests it in reality is good for nothing but laughs. Like with so many things, you can't handle a debate falling outside the narrow confines of your hysterical tribalism, so you warp reality around yourself to make it fit. The idea that previously reliable conservative voters want nothing to do with Pierre Poilievre's retarded populism literally breaks your brain.

The US is on the verge of running out of consumer goods. Their consumer confidence is at its lowest point since COVID.

We need to start treating YouTube as entertainment, not information. It can be information only when it comes from a source that is trusted across the board.

get the hell out of here with this bs crap .. keep the voting fraud nonsense conspiracy bs to down south.

Yeah if there’s one thing Danielle and he ilk are good at, it’s lowering the bar.

If you reject the law and due process it means you're a tyrant because then the POTUS can just do whatever they want with no check on his executive power. There's a very good and specific reason why the US founding fathers created the SCOTUS, separation of powers, and checks and balances. Because they knew first-hand the dangers of a tyrant (King George). Due process takes some extra time. Boo-hoo.

And pray for our leaders, and the battle ahead. It was an exciting night, but couldn't keep awake waiting whether it's a majority or minority. Congratulations to Liberal-supporting members.

If you don't believe in Canada you are free to pack up and leave for any country you think is better. We'll be happy to revoke your citizenship and strike you off the voters list. That's my view on "western separatism". Dissolve the Legislature and return any western province to territorial status if it tries.

If one can make big bucks with bitcoin, then why do all Canadians want to keep their Canadian dollars if bitcoin is all that great? I am going to buy a hundred dollars worth of bitcoin, and if what you said is true, and it will quadrupole in a year, i am in. 😇 I wish that we had a Trump to vote for in the Canadian election. The trouble with Poilievre was that he was to meek and mild. PP did not attack Corney has he should have. PP should have constantly reminded Canadians of what the lieberals did to Canada in the past decade over and over and over again. Plus PP was totally scared of the Canadian leftist lieberal lying media where Trump was not. Trump constantly called the leftist democratic media a fake and lying media. PP would have gained points from saying that also., but he wimped out. The lieberal media did not like PP so why did he go so easy on them? PP should have attacked and mocked the media. PP did to himself. Sad to say but PP was no Trump. Why should i leave? Instead, why don't you leave and go move to some communist country where you should be quite happy there. My program and agenda is to work on helping Alberta to succeed from what was once a Canada that is no more. ☺️ God Bless America! 😇

We just had mark Carney, take the head seat of the liberal party and of PM of the entire country....without being elected....I guess those rules are just for the liberals right....

We inherited A big mess from Biden. We are now in the process of cleaning it up, and it's not pretty. When Trump is finished cleaning up the country, we'll get back to a better America.

Because they don't like Poilievre, and they hate his MAGA slob campaign manager. It's not just Ford either. PC Premier Tim Houston from Nova Scotia wants nothing to do with him. Poilievre makes enemies everywhere he goes. That's what happens when you're a caustic asshat.

That's why Harris lost - because she was a diversity hire: an "incompetent mor*n". In light of all the f*ckups and destruction from the previous administration, Trump is needed now more than ever.

Of course I would support Poilievre if he was down there. When our PM is dealing with a dangerous foreign adversary who has threatened our sovereignty we have to play as one team. A Tory win wouldn’t have made much difference to my life other than maybe lowering my taxes over the longer term. Poilievre behaved like a normal Canadian politician in this election and accepted the result.

They'll do it again too, if the CPC and Poilievre deliver more of the same. It wasn't just the NDP and Bloc supporters either, but the Greens and a lot of Small C conservatives as well. I voted for Harper the whole time he was PM, and I spent my first 7 years on this forum arguing on his behalf. People like me want nothing to do with MAGA or Poilievre's cheap karaoke version of it. Quebec is the province where Poilievre is the least popular. I don't think he regrets not signing on with the dude that most of the province hates. 😑

He represented an Ottawa riding. He came out in support of the Freedom Convoy which was making life hell for residents and talked about gutting the civil service in a constituency that contains a lot of civil servants. What could go wrong.

But, they lost. Whine, cry make excuses... but they lost. So what are the PC going to do now?? When Carney was selected as PM by party votes, not public election, the PC went berserk. He is NOT the PM, we never elected him!! Cannot be PM when un-elected ?? And so on was the screaming and crying. So, now that PP is unelected...is he still the leader of the PC party??

Nobody forgot, it's just that PP still managed to make himself look like the worse option. I agree. This is Poilievre's campaign manager - hardcore MAGA and culture-war donkey: When you spend 3 years calling people names, shouting three word slogans, bullshitting, peddling conspiracy theories about globalist woke-radical-left agendas etc and doing basically everything you can to invite comparisons to Trump, that's what you're going to get. Nobody anticipated how much of a mess Trump would make, but the mess was assured. Poilievre sowed the winds of Trumpian populism, and he reaped the whirlwind. His caustic badgering and his circling the conspiracy vortex brought the toolbags from the PPC back into the fold, but he also united basically everyone else against him. It wasn't a fluke. They didn't "lend" their votes to Carney. They rejected Poilievre, and unless he really changes, they'll do it next time too.

How do you separate the effect of Carney being far more popular than Trudeau vs Trump's threats and voter's perceptions that Carney would be tougher against Trump than Pierre? They both significantly helped the Liberals, and which had the most effect is speculation.

Oh your CDS is insane! The facts are right in front of your dumb dropout face Senior Associate Deputy Minister of Finance In office November 15, 2004 – February 4, 2007 Prime Minister Paul Martin Stephen Harper Deputy Governor of the Bank of Canada In office August 10, 2003 – November 15, 2004 Prime Minister Paul Martin Preceded by Paul Jenkins Succeeded by Tiff Macklem Fake news Not “ colluding” Dude His name was all over the international news in those days because of his performance. Back then you were probably some beer drinking lowlife who didn’t pay attention to the news but he was famous then. How do you think he became the first non-British governor of the Bank of England since it was founded in 1694?

Compared to who? He's not even really progressive in the context of the CPC. He spends way too much time and energy railing about "woke radical left ideology" for that statemen to be credible. You're right about this, but for the wrong reasons. Poilievre lost because he borrowed too much from Trump, and sounded too much like Trump. If he hadn't spent the last 3 years calling people names, circling the conspiracy vortex, playing culture-war and repeating 3-word MAGA-style slogans ad-nauseum, the comparison wouldn't have stuck. Worse, however, is how he couldn't (or wouldn't) pivot when these all became liabilities. He just kept running it down the middle.

So that's how trump talks about people who have been sucking up to him and saying how great he is. So carney is out there sucking up to trump and telling him how great he is on the phone, which arguably may not be a bad stance to take right now if that's your strategy, but in public is bad-mouthing him as loudly as humanly possible and saying he wants to lead a coalition against him That kind of tells me that carney is completely full of shit. I think he's probably going to look to sell us out and keep his relationship with trump strong and pretend that he's really leading a coalition to try and strike back and the deal he got was really the best he could possibly get and Poilievre would have gotten an even worse one. I don't think we're coming out of this ahead

But the party wasn't behind it all a few months ago. Justin Trudeau was behind a few months ago. Again you're making yourself look like a complete child by insisting that the polls that were taken during a no trump justin Trudeau. Is somehow exactly the same as a tariff and 51 State and Carney circumstance. I mean you might as well announce to the world that you owe absolutely nothing about politics or that you're dishonest as hell We want to do apples to apples as soon as carney took over in the campaign started he sort up to being 12 to 15 points ahead of the CPC according to a number of the polls. So this is really a story about how he came back against a 12-point deficit and managed to damn near break even And yet they vote for him. In fact they vote for him almost as much as they vote for Carney. Even worse he was closing the gap, if there had been yet another week to that campaign you to beat Carney I don't really give a crap whether people like him or not, but they are prepared to vote for him and every bit as much as the liberals. And that's when the liberals are borrowing every vote they can get from the NDP and the block and even the greens So say what you like, more people are prepared to vote for him on a regular basis than carne as a liberals I'm sure it will. And I'm sure that when he wins the next election is going to make you absolutely mentally crazy that I was right all along and you were wrong. Which is weird because you really should be getting used to that by now Anything can happen and for sure carney is not the kind of person who is going to be satisfied with anything less than a majority. The first opportunity he sees where he thinks he has an advantage he is going to jump back into the election Fray and try and take a majority and he'll get to call the timing on that most likely. But I'm quite satisfied with our performance in this election and I think carney is going to have a difficult time duplicating his. I think it'll have an easier time trying to talk four NDP into crossing the floors to give him a majority than win one in the next election

Godwin would be proud.

Only Trump can ignore the WSJ which said the economy Trump inherited was "the envy of the world."

Enough for him to lose an election to a party that was 20-25 points behind only a few months ago. It is quite simple. Poilievre has -20% net favorability. ~60% of the country can't stand him, and that number's remained steady for as long as he's been around. In that context, sure, he did exceptionally well...for a loser who lost his own seat. 😆 I hope that thought comforts you in the coming years. Hope and wish that the man who couldn't pivot from his slogans and says he rarely changes his mind, and who his party had to hide in the final week of the election has a come to Jesus moment. Pray that the next ~4 years of Trump doesn't leave baggage. Bet on the NDP coming back strong after losing official party status and bleeding its supporters to both the CPC and the Liberals. It'll all work out the way you want it to 🫂.

Thats when Alberta will receive equalization payments from the feds, as they should.

So you wouldn’t even give Fanjoy 1% of the credit for his win? Please sah, just 1%. It ain’t much for a man loik yaself.

It's not just about how many people vote for you. It's also about how many vote against you. While you cope with the loss and soothe yourself with the idea that he increased the share of the popular vote, digest this along with it: The Liberal vote was the highest it's been in 45 years. You have to be 41 different kinds of stupid to pretend that losing the election is a "fantastic performance", especially when it's losing to a party that was polling around 20% months ago. 🙃

By across the board, I mean across political lines. Longevity and popularity factor in also, since that speaks to reputation.

The Green T-Shirt strikes again. What a dope.

Agreed. Only prejudice would cause you to think that a PM naturally wouldn't want to help. I don't like Poilievre but I would absolutely trust him to try his best in a negotiation.

Yes. If it's not going against the rules of the party, why not? Given the circumstances we've seen in this election - which everyone agree is dominated by fear of TRUMP - his loss can't be blamed on him. ESPECIALLY SO, if we acknowledge the improvement he's brought to the party. If I'm not mistaken, the Conservatives has earned an extra 16 seats. AND - he's brought in the union (which normalyy vote NDP) and younger generation into the fold! The election we've had wasn't about the traditional partisanship - Conservatives vs Liberals. It's about who Canada thinks is best to tackle Trump! Poilievre must be given another chance!

I think @Moonbox is right though…. while PP did “well”, he actually drove even more voters to the Liberals! So is it actually the case that he did well? I think if O’Toole is leader, Cons win the election by a landslide. Andrew Coyne sums it up perfectly.

Disagree. The government of Trudeau Jnr collapsed when his Finance Minister (Freeland) resigned. ===== No, the pro-federal Liberal polls went up when Trump called Canada a 51st state.

Clearly, the polls went up immediately after Carney was selected leader. If you have other data, present it.

The FACT is, Trump is underwater in almost every category in almost every poll. You're looking at OLD INFORMATION.

Couldn't have been that upset, they did almost win a majority, i think most Canadians have really short memory spans....I mean same party, same MP's, and then Carney as an advisor....and somehow Justin wore that entire failure....i mean come on some of these guys have to step up and own some of that failure.... I'd also say the media, polling companies, trump, and Carneys staff, the short election timings also had a role all had a role in there somewhere, of influencing events that lead to the destruction of PP campaign... minor as they may be they still played a role....PP campaign manager, even PP himself did most of the destruction. hopeful he sees that and decides to retire and let someone else take the reins....

Putin 2028.

Judges have made it clear simply locking them up is not an option because they know in the absence of proper medical facilities that means a return to prison-like institutional conditions that violate people's rights as patients not to mention their human rights. The numbers of people who do something threatening or violent is miniscule compared to the numbers of people who just wander around. It also needs to be said that mentally ill people suffer far more violence at the hands of ordinary people than the other way around. Just looking at it from a cold calculating actuarial perspective says the chances of being a victim are so small that the cost of locking them up not to mention taking away their rights isn't even worth considering compared to the inhumane conditions they would be subjected to. If however the health system had an adequate number of well-funded psychiatric hospitals and facilities capable of meeting at the very least the same standards and safeguards any other patient in the medical system expects, judges might be more amenable to medical and legal advice that prescribes the suspension of a person's rights to their freedom is occasionally appropriate. At any given time you can be sure virtually every psych ward in every hospital is maxed out as is every available space in a long-term care facility. Prisons and jails are not an option.

Hey, agree to disagree but really, you believe that stuff?? I will be me, I always have. No thanks, I have my own to rent. out but, i am getting out of the landlord business. Be well and carry on.

Poilievre was badly beaten in his own riding. It wasn’t that close. What a result.

The problem with the US is that the electorate doesn't follow conventional information sources anymore... so they can't be relied on to elect a reasonable government.

I truly hope that Parliament now concentrates on Canada and to make sure Canada is not screwed over by a bully.

Way! The slightly less far right conservative won so the babies want to destroy the country in response. This is why you guys don’t get laid. Grown men with teenage boy minds are repulsive. Grow up!

OMG the usual gang that thinks Smash's posts are the products of a rational mind leaps to the front lines.

An Albertan?

Oh Jeez Smash is out on another Day Pass from the Loonie bin. His minder is probably reading a book while he plays on the Library computer.