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You can’t win with MAGA because they don’t care whether they are wrong or right. They have abandoned truth in favour of the fight. All that matters to them is “getting” the other side. (I’ve seen this attitude in these forums.) That’s why they respond so favourably when Trump posts something hate-inciting like this: Jul 20th 2024 - 10:12:25 PM EST Consider Musk’s recent post below Musk’s claim that these people are collecting social security is so obviously untrue (to anyone with a grain of intelligence, which I assume Musk has) and easily disproved. Simple math with these figures shows that if these payments in the table were being made, Social Security would cost about $1 trillion dollars more a year than it actually does. The numbers just don’t work. So why is Musk lying? And not caring if he does? Because he knows MAGA will respond, without regard to whether it’s true or not. Musk baits MAGA, who will use this as ammunition in their manufactured “fight.” They don’t care if the numbers are wrong - just like they don’t care if Trump is a dictator. The outrage of the “other side” is the goal. (As one MAGA member here said – it’s about freaking them out.) Like Trump, Musk manipulates with lies, and it causes me great concern for the country that many are susceptible to this manipulation.

Outsmarted by Trump and Musk. That must really bug some people.

The list of the Republicans who: 1) publicly 2) clearly and 3) in strongest possible terms condemn Trump's treacherous and utterly false position on Putin's aggressive war in Ukraine and disassociate themselves from it. Please feel free to contribute. ------------------ 1. Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi GOP 2. Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana GOP 3. Mike Pence, former Vice President

He is a special advisor to the President. There's nothing crooked about it. The left is trying to fearmonger here, throw everything they can at the wall in lawsuits, and they are losing. Too bad, so sad.

Nothing you have posted indicates they are made-up numbers. What is his source supposed to be here if he is sharing something from the database? LOL, that is literally THE source.

IMO, all of this has a distinct "why are you surprised" flavour to it especially when all it took to avoid it was not being bat sh%$ crazy. There was no shortage of people (including right here) suggesting that obvious law-fare tactics could easily (even likely) be turned against the very people cheering it on if there was a change in political fortunes. In the world of aviation incident/accident cause factors it's called the "normalization of deviation" and it usually leads to heartache at a systemic level. Almost invariably it gets worse with time, usage and acceptance... I don't think partisan law-fare is going away now and in due course it will once again be Democrats buffing their claws and smiling... after all, they invented it. I remember reading this article some time ago and thinking "ya, wouldn't it be ironic and well deserved if." It took a few minutes to track it down but here ya go FWIW... MSN from about 9 months ago and it begs a pretty simple question: "WTF did you think was going to happen?" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-democrats-should-fear-lawfare-tactics-being-turned-against-them/ar-AA1o8MYy

Everyone knows there is virtually no waste or fraud in government spending...right? Nevada Woman Pleads Guilty to Nearly $100 Million COVID-19 Tax Credit Fraud The IRS warned last year that the vast majority of an employment tax credit program it reviewed showed ‘risk of being improper.’ A woman from Nevada involved in defrauding the United States of tens of millions of dollars’ worth of COVID-19 pandemic tax credits has pleaded guilty in the case, according to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ). Candies Goode-McCoy of Las Vegas “conspired with others to file tax returns seeking fraudulent refunds based on the employee retention credit (ERC) and paid sick and family leave credit,” the agency said in a Feb. 14 statement. “From around June 2022 through September 2023, McCoy filed approximately 1,227 false tax returns for her businesses and others claiming these refundable credits.” In total, the fraudulent claims sought more than $98 million in refunds, of which the IRS paid out roughly $33 million, according to the DOJ statement. McCoy received more than $1.3 million in these refunds and received about $800,000 in payments from clients for whom she knowingly filed fraudulent returns, according to the statement.

2 things: It's never easy proving that a Big Pharma cash-cow is problematic. Who's gonna do that, Fauci? 🤣 The Commie Death Cult? You have no idea whether or not SSRI's make school-shooting more likely. You're just guessing.

The fact is they were convicted and you're just whining that you wanted them punished more severely. Good Christian fellow, punish! punish! Punish them MORE! Must flagellate himself with thornbush for forgetting to say grace at McDonalds.

"Premier Tim Houston's government is using its supermajority in the legislature to give itself the power to fire the auditor general without cause and make reports from the office private. The changes are included in one of two omnibus bills the government tabled on Tuesday, the same day the provincial budget was released. The Government Organization and Administration Act makes a number of changes, including setting out previously announced plans by the Progressive Conservatives to do away with Communications Nova Scotia, the government agency that was required by legislation to produce non-partisan materials for the public. Responsibility for government communications, labour relations, and priorities and planning are now all being pulled under the control of the executive council office, the government entity that supports the premier and cabinet." This is anti-democratic shit needs to be reversed. It's not what he was voted in for.

It's the only way anyone could conclude Ukraine started this war. It's on par with believing Canada is refusing to turn on some water tap that exists in Trump's imagination or that Marjorie Taylor-Green's Jewish space lasers start wildfires or vaccines cause autism. It's on par with believing America is run by a stable genius.

That's the direction we are headed. Just the other week the premier of Quebec was talking about imprisoning Christians for praying in public

Are you seriously comparing Canada's freedoms with those of Apartheid, China, Nazi Germany, and the Khmer Rouge? How warped is your view of reality?

Wake up? So after the public stops being woke or before or at the same time? Have you tried the crackling fire or soothing beach channel on TV?

A liar who fails to admit the lie is a liar squared. And why did you stop your (dumb-) logical progression at the arbitrarily chosen point? Let's continue, shall we? Crimea is in Ukraine, Ukraine is in Europe and Europe is on planet Earth. Putin's fleet home is planet Earth! That explains everything, right? Liar^liar.

You are starting with a lie, why would anyone respecting themselves and valuing their time bother to have a meaningful discussion? Territorial integrity of Ukraine was guaranteed by four guarantor states in exchange for the abandonment of the third largest nuclear arsenal at the time. The borders of Ukraine are recognized by the whole world, except a few most grotesque dictatorships counted on the fingers of one hand (and one has already fallen). Crimea is not the "home" but in one city in Crimea certain territory was leased, with a limited term, to Russia's Black Sea fleet now severely decimated. The summary: you are a liar, unsmart (yes, there's a shorter synonym) at that as it takes just minutes to verify this at anyone's fingertips. Why would anyone bother to waste their time on such a case? Beats me.

Well if the research is that profound.. it can wait until 2028 when Trump is out.

And yet nowhere did he say that all of the people on that list are collecting welfare. He never said anything like that. Which was your claim. He said there is widespread fraud. He is also said these numbers show just how out of whack and poorly managed the information systems are. He never said that these are the numbers of people that are committing fraud. So this started off with you just being wrong. Then instead of admitting that you've now tried to double down and are into the point where you just lying your ass off to try and recover some validity. Must never claimed that the numbers you presented are the numbers of people that are committing fraud. He has claimed that there are millions of people out there who are committing welfare fraud in one form or another and I have seen nothing at all that disputes that. In order to try and win what you do and what the paper you're quoting is doing is creating something he never said and arguing with that and trying to disprove it because you know you can't address the things he actually did say According to the government's own research before trump took over welfare fraud and benefit fraud is massive Improper welfare payments, including welfare fraud and abuse, are estimated to account for 9.2% of all federal welfare payments and total $101 billion in fiscal year 2023 So he's probably right. 100 billion is one of the bigger frauds schemes I've heard of. Are you done looking stupid yet? Did you want to keep going with this?

So... It doesn't matter what anyone thought was going to happen? It doesn't matter what any rational assessment suggested was possible, likely, or even worthy of consideration? And, anyone looking at or even considering these issues is a puppet by virtue of having considered them? Is the expectation that potentially hostile nations will abide by treaties the height of logical progressive thinking... I don't even recall the memorandum including NATO membership for Ukraine but you can do your own homework on that. In fact I seem to recall there being serious concerns put forward about NATO expansion. I think you should stick to sentences ending in duh / LMAO and stay far away from recruiting centres

You misspelled "stench". It's pretty thick Mind you so is the poster so.....

He's doing the same dumbest trick he tried with Kim in his first term, hoping to extract concessions from dictator thugs by praising and cowering to them. They just lead him around their finger, getting what they want for free. Or else they already run him directly. One or the other.

Go figure. As almost anyone who was being honest about this suspected, the criminal ring behind the burglaries of famous sports peoples homes when they were away playing games, was a gang from Chile comprised of illegal immigrants. Yet again, the policies of Biden and the Democrats to enable this open-border madness have left Americans victimized. This is why Trump is right to finally empower ICE to target these people and remove them and stop the madness of federal government spending and policies helping to enable this. Chilean migrants charged in $2 million burglary spree targeting Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, star athletes https://nypost.com/2025/02/19/sports/chilean-migrants-charged-in-burglaries-of-patrick-mahomes-travis-kelce-joe-burrow-homes/ "The seven illegal immigrants — Pablo Zuniga Cartes, 24; Ignacio Zuniga Cartes, 20; Bastian Jimenez Freraut, 27; Jordan Quiroga Sanchez, 22; Bastian Orellano Morales, 23; Alexander Huiaguil Chavez, 24, and Sergio Ortega Cabello, 38 — were all charged with conspiracy to commit interstate transportation of stolen property, a criminal complaint unsealed in Tampa, Fla., on Tuesday, revealed."

This is silly. If your position is that you must be perfect at the moment of your death... that is neither logical nor scriptural. Biblical teachings do assure us that with our faith in Christ we are saved. No where does it say we must be worried our whole life that the moment before death we had better be perfect.

Yeah he proved your point. User stays quiet about the trump policies and actions he doesn't like. Hes a caged cheerleader. For example I know with foreign policy User is not a fan of the US siding with fascist dictators and weakening the our NATO alliance. But he keeps his head down and recites the slogans required by the Party.

We've got first courageous individuals, Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi and Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana. Being silent, swallowing it as normal will sink you in this sh*t not only for the rest of your miserable lives but for generations that will repeat and recount them alongside quislings during WWII. And what have Democrats to say on this matter?

Putin is Hitler now? I thought it was Trump.

In February, 2014 Putin's Russia invaded and occupied Ukrainian Crimea In February 2022 Putin's Russia invaded Ukraine again. Truth exists. Maga lies. Impunity of criminals and aggressors makes them stronger, bolder and invites them to come for more.

The rape could/should have been avoided if the victim just gave her consent. No problem then. Germans say: "if there are ten people at a table, one is Nazi and others say nothing, there are ten Nazis at the table".

The time to pay attention is before the election, not after.

Not sure if you're old enough to remember but it reminds me of that Rice Krispies commercial. "What did you THINK it was made of?" This is the same. What did you THINK it would look like. If you create a hostile culture war and attack people who dare to question your trans agenda there's going to be a backlash. What did you THINK it would look like? If you practice lawfare on your political opponents, try to keep their names off of the ballot, bring endless nonsense charges against them, try to drain them of money by endless court cases then when THEY get into power they're going to look to do it right back at you. What did you THINK it would look like? If you waste endless amounts of money on creating needless beurocracy and demand gov't funds are yours by entitlement and the people paying the bills get no say, someone's going to come along and slash all that. What did you THINK it would look like? Honestly. For most sensible people this is OBVIOUS. But for the left this concept is as hard to grasp as teaching binary mathematics to a gerbil.

Science: Our own National Institution of Helath published a paper that found a link between the use of SSRIs and violent crimes in youth.

Silly is you believing pathological LIARS bent on dismantling our government without understanding what they're doing. Like when they just fired a bunch of nuclear safety staff and are now desperately trying to rehire them but can't find them. Total INCOMPETENCE that YOU'RE WORSHIPING cause you don't understand what's going on. FACE REALITY, doofus. US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers BBC https://www.bbc.com › news › articles 15 hours ago — The US government is trying to rehire nuclear safety employees it had fired on Thursday, after concerns grew that their dismissal could ... DOGE Fired Key Nuclear Safety Staff, Triggering a ... Inc.com https://www.inc.com › kit-eaton › doge-fired-key-nucle... 4 hours ago — DOGE Fired Key Nuclear Safety Staff, Triggering a Scramble to Find Them and Rehire Them ... It would be funny in, say, an Austin Powers movie, but ...

I don't believe in any wacko conspiracies. Now tell me, Barquentine, did you prtend that Biden was menatlly healthy for the last 4 years? Thought so. Maybe just keep your yap shut and make people guess how stupid you are next time. .

Measles cases now number 58 in Texas and 8 now in New Mexico. RFK is doing a bang up job.

Could it be because he's a Judge and therefore know law more than you do?

Sorry about that, typo. The first line should have said "The issue here is NOT to try and prove whether or not ....." lol doesn't really make sense without that. And yes, it does prove that a sizable chunk of democrats believed that the charges were politically motivated and those are the ones willing to admit it. Sorry kiddo Absolutely patently untrue. Not even really plausible. Do better Yeah. That's exactly how it looks. The optics are absolutely terrible. Right down to the Judge's daughter getting rich off of the whole affair in the case of the criminal trial. Which is why trump's support actually went up after his conviction and during the trial. People took one look, smell the rat, and decided to support trump. No, I don't believe he did. And The defense stated that in order for the trial to be fair there would have to be a change of venue which the judge denied. The judge whose daughter was getting rich off of the whole thing. And then when asked to accuse himself and put in a different judge he refused. Here's a fun little exercise, what was the crime he was convicted of? His charges hinge on the idea that what they caught him doing was only a crime if it was done specifically to cover up a more serious crime that is a criminal violation. So what was that crime? What was the crime that he committed and when was he convicted of it that enables this crime to be considered a criminal charge? There isn't one. But the judge instructed the jury to pretend that there was if they felt like it. The jury has to follow the judges instructions. Nobody believes this is fair. He was basically Convicted for a crime that they never brought to trial or even identified. This trial had nothing to do with criminal behavior and everything to do with politics. It was a complete sham So now when the same thing happens to a democrat you're going to try and claim that it was unprecedented and how terrible it is...... and nobody will be listening.

Is it? This is what they did to Trump: They literally took out important context that painted Biden in a negative light to make Trump's answers seem incoherent. In reality, his answers were really damaging to Joe. Now watch the Kackler: She starts with an incoherent, disjointed word salad. When she finally comes around to something that sounds somewhat plausible, they cut to that. In the second clip, they edited out the parts where she sounded unsure, scared and weak to the seconds where she sounded somewhat authoritative. The evidence is there. They were editing their interviews to create opinion rather than editing them for time.

All of my assertions have been well-supported. Thanks for stepping up and being my exemplar.

Quit sniffing yourself. It's gross.

Lol...the scent of desperation and panic.

Poilievre will try to sell Canada a diluted and obscured version of trumpism? I'd suggest this. As Canada gears up to host the G7 Summit in Kananaskis, Alta., from June 15 to 17 this year, President Trump has said he wants Russia readmitted to the group. "I'd love to have them back," Trump said at the White House last week. "I think it was a mistake to throw them out. Look, it's not a question of liking Russia or not liking Russia. It was the G8." Russia was tossed out of the G8 in March 2014 following the annexation of Crimea. Asked if Canada would consider allowing Russia back to the table, Joly said "no way." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-joly-threat-wake-up-call-1.7461719 If the Liberals are still in power come June 15th Canada should consider telling Trump he's not welcome either. I'd invite Zelenskyy as a sign of respect and sympathy and start introducing the counter-vision we need to this...

one less person... not exactly earth shaking

Orca Winfrey is leaving? I know a lot o' seals who will be happy to hear that one.

I don't believe you. Somebody who was aware wouldn't have asked that question. The answer is startlingly obvious if you understand how their system works Right, that's why Quebec is such a happy part of confederation right? In two or three generations it might change. But it certainly doesn't change overnight. And there's no way to be sure it would change in a manner that would benefit the republicans. How long has California gone democrat? If we're already starting off closer to them why would you think that any change would break us to the republicans rather than harder to the democrats? Nobody sees it that way. And even those who care for America might not care for the republicans. There is a lot of national pride in Canada There are a lot of us haters right now that have nothing to do with steel What country has this ever happened in? It's never going to happen. It would never have happened anyway, but now Canada will spend the next decade distancing itself from the united states even more. You need to do a lot more homework before you comment on this stuff. Canada was founded because we didn't want to be Americans. We have Successfully fought off every attempt by America to take us over and there have been a few. This will just Harden Canadians against America and there's no going back from that in the near future.

If you would like to be saved right now, be forgiven completely for all of your sins, and have eternal life right now, you can. You can have assurance that you are saved and have eternal life. I can tell you how to do it. Are you willing Gaetan?

Premier Davis Eby . . . a sheep in sheep's clothing.

When you get right down to it, banks created it. No one forces them to operate the way they do.

How does it feel to be crazier than a shithouse rat.