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Let us all take the time to be thankful for our families, our health and our friends and the greatest nation in the history of mankind.

Yes convince us how things intended to do A didn't do B, so therefore 'they're useless'. Got a breakaway with the puck and didn't score a touchdown therefore hockey is useless.

Are you implying the number of universes is greater than one? If so, and they are parallel universes, then in the others Trump carries a RPG an AR15 and a Colt 1911 side arm. Just be thankful you are in this one.

The left has largely dominated our culture recently and they really dictated who can and can't speak out. Men, especially those evil white men are the scourge of the universe and the most terrible thing that's ever happened. The responsible for women oppression, slavery, gonorrhea and those great big spiders you find in your garage. So men have become afraid to talk. It's not worth it. You be attacked and you may even be fired from your job for saying the most simple things. Women still have some freedom to speak. They're harder for the lefties to attack. They are harder to shut down. Which is why you'll see women stepping forward more than men in this day and age.

it was the enemies of MAGA who named their terms they said no quarter, no mercy, no succour they drew first blood now John Rambo Jesus has come to throw them out of the Temple

A loudmouth who doesn't know shit about anything but still thinks his opinion is worth hearing.

No, I'm not you. Jeebus be praised.

Yet another thread where someone expresses glee over a mythical breakdown of an opponent. Terrible politics 😔

Why does it always seem to be that it's women who have the character to do what's right when their side is doing the wrong thing? In Canada it was only women that stood up to Justin's turpitude: they told the truth about him, and left the LPOC because their own decency and morality couldn't take a back seat to power and money. There were a couple men who meekly "said a bit of stuff", but never to the extent where they forced Trudeau's hand, and they didn't have the spine to leave the party either. They were the jellyfish that roared, so to speak. There were at least 4 women who quit the LPOC, or were forced out due to their inability to "keep their mouths shut like good little libbie womanfolk". (There's a liberal MP named John Aldag who quietly left his liberal MP seat to run as an NDP MLA here in my riding, but I don't know why he did that. No reason has yet been given aside from "resigned to run as a BC NDPer". For all I know, maybe he wanted a second pension income.) In the states they had Tulsi Gabbard leave behind a cushy life near the top of the DNC, where her DEI status surely gave her a rock star pedigree. Tulsi was an outspoken critic of the shambles that the DNC had become while everyone around her was still pretending that Biden was still tha man, and the DNC was still a bastion of democratic integrity. She just had too much spine to keep her mouth shut, and it was inevitable that she'd have to leave or be forced out. Now she has been warmly welcomed to the GOP, where she is a big up-and-comer. In fairness, RFK Jr did the same thing, but he's got Kennedy money and connections, Kennedys are a bit bolder than other men, and protecting the Kennedy family legacy clearly meant getting the f outta Dodge. So after all of these female politicians led the charge here, now Catherine Herridge is leading the charge in breaking ranks from the MSM clown car down south. Out of all the quisling MSM scum in the US and Canada, Herridge, of CBS, is the first one to come out and openly admit that "We are fake news". I make no bones about the fact that men are better at a lot of things than women, but when it comes to admitting that their side has gone rogue, women are KICKING OUR ASSES to the extent that it's really humiliating. These women are going momma bear while the "men" are turtling. Where have all the good men gone? Men sprang from the trenches to go up against machine gun fire in WWI. Men swam through the sea with heavy kit and rifles, then ran across the slippery shale at Normandy to storm the daunting defences of the Nazis. Now what? They can't throw down their man-panties and walk across the floor in the HOC...? F me. We've become a mamby-pamby bunch of b1tches and we actually need women to drag us by the ear to do the right thing. God save us.

With the exception of pecan pie, pretty much the exact same thing.

Carbon taxes have not reduced emissions in reality. What I posted shows why they didn't work in theory since the Liberals have been hiding behind fake economics. (You should take up a different sport.)

Well there's nothing that would make me happier than to see someone who thinks 'you can eat bugs' means 'you must eat bugs' getting bugs shoved down their throat. Like the ones still claiming they were forced to be vaxxed when they never did get vaxxed.

But if you put them on IGNORE you get a small board of people with interesting viewpoints. How many threads were started about the celebration of seeing political opponents suffer? What is wrong with these people? They need therapy I think...

tell you what, every Gen Z male I meet is a MAGA Bro certainly the Woke Millennials are the worst generation that ever lived but frankly, the kids are alright when it comes to Gen Z nobody is more Red Pilled than Gen Z Bros the power dynamic is shifting, Gen Z Bros hook up as they please, but otherwise, they DGAF the girls actually hit on the guys now as a result, the Gen Z Bros have them eating out of their hands honestly, Gen Z girls are powerless, they have no leverage, hence the Gen Z Bros rule them Gen Z Bros are in the gym working out, getting shredded, then they rule the roost therein this is why Gen Z girls dress like whores ; desperate for attention

Oh do you mean the Donald Trump whom women attacked relentlessly, and who they went after in the courts for the most stupid of charges and tried their best to run into the ground? That Donald Trump? Most people don't have his cash and connections to be able to fight that kind of protracted battle. They went after him with every single thing that they had, and the fact that he was able to come out on top doesn't mean that the average male can fight that kind of battle without severe financial destruction. If anything Donald Trump proves that I'm right. The left literally spent the entire campaign and a billion dollars and their entire message was how terrible a person he was, not how good a person they were. That is the left today and if you don't want to risk losing everything just to speak a little truth then it's not worth it

Look at how much slander and lawfare has been directed at Donald Trump... You and I would be dead and buried from the sheer amount of money and lawyers they'd need to defend ourselves, and to this day there's no evidence of collusion or rape. Not one bit. All the Hollywood elites who supported Weinstein for years are calling Trump a rapist - which he quite clearly is not - and none of them have been cancelled for supporting Weinstein. Can an actor come out and publicly support Trump without being cancelled? F no. An actor who supports Trump has as much of a chance of getting hired as an actress who wouldn't f Weisntein in the '90s. Actors can stonewall all day in support of Weinstein, and if they do, they're golden. They're as hireable in Hollywood as Ryan Reynolds is right now. Not as big of earners, obviously, but there are no more barriers against their employment than there are against Reynolds. Can you get hired to teach at Berkeley if you're a known Trump supporter? No. Absolutely not. Is the crying, lying loser, Blasey-Ford still A-ok there? You bet. Her popularity never waned. The majority of famous people who support Trump have F you money, they're uncancellable. Kid Rock. Sly Stallone. Hulk Hogan. You can't cancel those guys because they have all the money they could ever need. They don't need any more contracts. Elon Musk is maybe the richest guy in the world, but even more than that, if he wants gov't contracts, he can get demand gov't contracts, because Starlink and SpaceX are immeasurably important. Even the Dems - the most bigoted and vile bunch of liars on the planet outside of Pakistan - have no choice but work with Elon Musk, until he "commits suicide".

You stupid twats don't even know what your own god stands for, it's amazing. Trump takes aim at legal immigration Trump Allies Draw Up Plans Targeting Legal Immigration H-1B hopefuls say they’re bracing for the impact of a second Trump term

The point is, while Trump got a marginal 1% bump over 2020, Harris dramatically underperformed Biden in 2020. This is why I was so disappointed when the Democratic Party was so quick to abandon Joe for an unlikely alternative.

I'm beginning to think it's an exercise in futility, to debate with many here.

Thank you for so eloquent laying this out

who woulda thought the party of JFK would embrace McCarthyism straight out of the Red Scare ? who woulda thought the party of JFK would oppose SpaceX to the Sea of Tranquility & beyond ? who woulda thought the party of JFK would become Puritans screeching incessantly about a womanizing President ?

lulz the most failed strategy in Democrat party history remember when they called Dick Cheney "Hitler" ? Dick Cheney Hitler having just endorsed Kamalla Harris while they all cheered meanwhile, Donald Trump is the most liberal Republican of all time he literally has just stolen the Democrat party protectionist platform from the New Deal while the Democrats completely abandoned the centre in order to embrace Marxist Leninism 2.0

Someone who can’t afford internet and posts from the public library in a trenchcoat or similar attire.

It's just what the Democrats are doing.

This is how Canada should deal with Donald Trump, irrational actor ANDREW COYNE PUBLISHED 29 MINUTES Good to see no one is panicking. The president-elect of the United States, in a late-night social-media outburst, has declared he would impose a 25-per-cent tariff on all imports from Canada and Mexico – on his first day in office, yet. He does not necessarily have that authority – constitutionally, tariffs are Congress’s responsibility – but would have to rely on untested emergency powers, exposing him to legal challenges. If implemented, the tariffs would cause immense havoc, not least for Americans, raising prices for consumers and blowing up integrated continental supply chains, exposing him to political blowback. They are also, needless to say, explicitly prohibited under the trilateral free trade agreement to which he is a signatory. The whole idea is so insane that everyone assumes it must be a negotiating tactic – that when Donald Trump ties the tariffs to the two countries’ alleged failure to stem the flow of fentanyl and illegal aliens into the United States, he means he would lift the tariffs if they somehow achieved this. Or if they did something else, or something in addition. But no one knows. He also likes tariffs for their own sake. For that matter, he likes issuing threats for their own sake. And he’s not even president yet. Nevertheless, hardly had the post left his fingertips when prominent voices in this country were heard demanding – well, demanding all sorts of things, none of them sensible. Even in advance of Mr. Trump’s latest threat, the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, had called for Mexico to be thrown out of NAFTA. Now he wants to blow up bilateral trade, demanding that Canada retaliate against Mr. Trump’s insane and self-destructive tariffs with insane and self-destructive tariffs of its own. Other voices urged a more – what shall we call it? – conciliatory line. Or perhaps “servile” would be better: what the historian and political theorist Timothy Snyder has called “anticipatory obedience.” The Premier of Alberta, Danielle Smith, not content with urging the Canadian government to negotiate at the point of a metaphoric gun, actively took Mr. Trump’s side, noting his “valid concerns” about “illegal activities at our shared border.” The Premier of Saskatchewan, Scott Moe, agreed, noting “we can all benefit from additional border security stopping the flow of illegal drugs and migrants across our borders.” The Premier of Quebec, François Legault, took to social media to fret about the “enormous risk” to Quebec’s economy from Mr. Trump’s tariff threat and demand that “everything possible” be done to avoid it. He offered Justin Trudeau “the full co-operation of the Quebec government” in this regard, by which he meant, as he later clarified, that Quebec must have a place at the negotiating table. As for the federal opposition leaders, they ranged from belligerent (Jagmeet Singh wants a “war room” to “fight like hell”) to irrelevant (Pierre Poilievre says the tariffs are an occasion to axe the carbon tax, as if this had anything to do with anything). Various others could be heard insisting that the Trump tariff threat was proof that it was now time to do whatever they had always advocated doing. All of which is not to endorse the Trudeau government’s approach, so far as it has one. But if the government seems uncertain about how to proceed, it is at least not taking out a billboard to advertise how panicked and compliant it is. It has at least not seized the opportunity, in the early days of what looks to be a lengthy crisis, to say something provably stupid, or appallingly self-serving. It has at least not turned its guns inward, or deserted the country in the face of the enemy. Let’s all take a deep breath, shall we? And after we have, let us agree that there is no practical benefit in attempting to meet Mr. Trump’s demands: because it is wrong to appease a bully, for starters; because to do so can only invite further demands, and further threats; because his “concerns” are not, in fact, “valid” – the amount of fentanyl entering the U.S. from Canada is trivial (U.S. customs agents seized a grand total of 43 pounds of it in the last fiscal year), the number of illegal migrants scarcely less so (U.S. border patrol officers stopped fewer than 24,000 people last year, compared to more than 1.5 million crossing from Mexico); because it is each country’s responsibility to control its own borders, that is, to police the entry of people and goods, not to demand that others police their exit; because if it were such an “easily solvable” matter as Mr. Trump, in his endless devotion to easy solutions, pretends, it would have been done long ago. There is not, in short, a great deal we can do to satisfy Mr. Trump, and if there were, we would have no assurance that he would remain satisfied for long. There is no point in negotiating with terrorists. As Trump threatens tariffs, here are five things we know so far (It’s not even a negotiation. A negotiation is when each side comes to the table, not only with demands, but with something to offer in return. Just threatening to do something horrible if your demands are not met is not negotiating. It’s blackmail. It’s the difference between offering to write a story in exchange for money and threatening to.) More than that, it represents a fundamental misunderstanding of Mr. Trump – a trap that those of us in the reality-based world continue to fall into, which is to attribute to him a rationality he does not possess. It is irrational enough to threaten to impose 25-per-cent tariffs on your nearest neighbours and major trading partners, for problems they did not cause. It is doubly irrational as a response to problems that are, in fact, subsiding: The number of unauthorized crossings on the Mexican border is falling, not rising (monthly encounters in September, at 54,000, were down 75 per cent from the year previous; for the entire fiscal year, they were down 14 per cent), as are the number of fentanyl deaths (off 10 per cent this year). Nevertheless, there is at least in this a notional rationality, a potential for rationality, a theoretical connection between putative cause and putative effect, if not in this world then in some world it is possible to imagine. The idea, often expressed, that Mr. Trump is essentially “transactional” – that he may not be guided by the usual principles of statecraft, let alone any of the higher ideals, but is at least intelligible in purely “what’s in it for me” terms – is based on attributing to him a kind of grubby rationality, as if he were merely a debased version of ourselves. Except there’s no evidence that that’s how he actually thinks. He is not rational, and does not think far enough ahead to connect cause and effect in the usual ways. He is a narcissistic psychopath – a Neroist, as I have called him. His primary motive is not self-interest, as we might understand it, but self-aggrandizement, the constant nourishing and enlargement of his vision of himself, which in his case can only be achieved by destroying everything else. In every situation, then, he will do, not merely the wrong thing, but the worst possible thing; the worse it is, and the more damage it causes, the more the people he despises object, and the greater his feeling of triumph. How else to explain, for example, his choices for cabinet: an apparent Russian asset for Director of National Intelligence, a prophet of civil war for Defence Secretary, a vaccine-denier for Health Secretary, an alleged statutory rapist for Attorney-General and so on. I think we have to look at the current crisis, then, not through the lens of trade or diplomacy or even extortion, but through the psychology of a deeply disturbed man. Grovelling before him, for example, as some of our Premiers seem inclined to do, is unlikely to assuage him: It’s the sort of thing he lives for. Caving to his demands, likewise, is futile: not because he will rationally conclude that our willingness to accept a first demand suggests we might concede to others, but because the dopamine high he experiences from dominating others will take control of him, demanding to be supplied with further hits. What should we do instead? 1. Play for time. Whatever he might imagine, Mr. Trump was elected with the thinnest of mandates. He is, what is more, a lame duck: The clock began ticking on his presidency from the day he was elected, as it is ticking on his mental and physical health. His thirst for dictatorship is real, but is in competition with his emotional instability and sheer incompetence. The longer time goes on, the more mistakes he is likely to make, and the weaker he is likely to become, politically and otherwise. 2. Prey upon his weaknesses. Probe his psyche. Figure out his break points. Do not be afraid to annoy him. Most people do stupid things when they’re angry; multiply by 100 in the case of Mr. Trump. Tempt him to give into his demons; lead him onto the rocks of his own intemperance. His mistakes are your opportunities. 3. Stand together. Work with allies, in Canada – yes, that means getting the Premiers onside, if only to shut them up – in Washington and state capitals, around the world. We are dealing with a dangerous lunatic. That is inescapable, at least for the foreseeable future. As with the Soviet Union, we cannot defeat him. But we can contain him. 4. Stand up straight. Ultimately we can’t control what Mr. Trump does. We can, however, control what we do. Maybe we can’t prevent him from wrecking the North American economy, or whatever else he decides to do to us. But we can at least maintain our dignity, our composure and our self-respect. That’s not the only thing that matters, but it’s something. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-this-is-how-canada-should-deal-with-donald-trump-irrational-actor/?login=true

Ahh.. So Greta Thunburg then.

You don't have opinions, you have hysterics

Let's just put this all behind us... Pat King will be the answer to a very difficult trivia question in the future.

Well, as a loser yourself, you always still lose with me. It comes natural to you, loser. LOL.

Did you scream at clouds, racist doggie? Do you have an emotional support animal? Do you really think that big bad Heggie is coming for you? Is trump going to arrest everyone that works at SpinCo? (FYI that's what Comcast call their fake news channels now: they just lumped CNN and MSNBC into one toxic little pkg that they want to either sell or flush down the toilet, if they can get approval from the EPA)

How is this stupid thread still going? Are our leftards really this stupid, or is this just fake hysteria? Are the tears still real?

No, stupid, I'm talking about the actual fascist you voted for.

Who is defending the racist? Hint: it's you.

Pierre Poilievre may be the better negotiater, but as anyone knows, you don't go into a 'street fight' bragging about how tough you are or will be. Poilievre touting himself as tough is a major sign of insecurity and weakness . . . just sayin'

Less than that before he was in a halfway house. Then he violated the terms of the halfway house so as punishment they're putting him in a halfway house. This guy's going to assault someone again.

It is quite clear that Hunter was the rebel of the family. Severe trauma can do that. Maybe you should do some research BEFORE you lash out in IGNORANCE..

If Trump puts a 25% tariff on Canadian products, Canada will have no choice but to reciprocate and NAFTA will be dead. Both sides will suffer but an upside is US companies will have to open branch plants in Canada like there was before NAFTA. Downside is everything will be more expensive for everyone on both sides of the border.

Tariffs go the other way. They don't affect what we buy, they affect what we sell. This will probably weaken the Canadian dollar and that will of course drive the cost of things up a little but stocking up won't do you any good if America poses tariffs on in going goods What it will probably do is significantly slow our economy and risk a recession

Why are you posting to me ? I opened the thread and saw this... I wasn't posting to you. Single issue ? What's the title of this thread ? It's not dishonest to say someone was murdered, but it's deceptive to blame people who support a multi-sided ECONOMIC question for said murder. And this from the same side that supports lots of policies that are bad for people. I want to be clear - any policy involves trade offs and these can be done without blaming people for the ills of the world. I expect right and left on here to do that. Similarly, people blame bathroom policy in North Carolina for causing suicides in the western states. If you are principled then you need to avoid these traps, IMO.

What does that have to do with anything that we are talking about? If you want to go tit for tat then here you go: I could say the same thing about John Wayne Gacy, he would be a member of the LBGTQ+ and Democrats and liberals like yourself would say it was the Republicans fault that he felt to kill all those young boys because he knew he would be mocked for being gay. By the way Gacy was a Democrat. In 1960, at age 18, Gacy became involved in politics, working as an assistant precinct captain for a local Democratic Party candidate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy

I do not support Democrats. I do not believe policy discussion begins with some kind of moral torch bearing. Of course I condemn murder, and I'm against illegal immigration Are we done now?

If only you right wingers cared as much about EVERY SCHOOL child killed by your beloved AR-15 style rifles, as you claim to care about one victim of an immigrant escaping drug gangs in Latin America. 🤮 Got news for you perverts, a lot more young women are killed by citizen gun nuts than a rapist from Latin America.