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Then why did the CDC and all the governments have to walk back the claim that the vaccines would eliminate covid? You forget that we were all lied to in the beginning. And now you lie for your masters and say they were never meant to cure covid. That is a big fat lie - and you know it. FFS - just read some of the threads on here - the vax fanatics were tearing their hair out and screaming how everyone HAD TO get vaxxed to eliminate covid from the earth!!!!!! GAH!!!!! MUST. GET. VAXXED. IT. CURES. COVID. Don't even pretend you don't remember they hyped up lies. And don't even bother trying to re-write history with those of us who have been paying attention from the beginning. CDC walks back claim that vaccinated people can't carry COVID (nypost.com)

Liar.

Why was Lich not jailed if she was more central ? You are missing something.

He wasn't imprisoned over politics; he was imprisoned for inciting to commit mischief.

I actually feel sorry for him. He stumbled into the spotlight and wasn't mature enough to appreciate the consequences of what was happening. They thought they were 'bringing down Trudeau' but they were being used by people who knew full well that they could achieve their goals and the system itself would mangle Pat King without touching them. Poilievre comes to mind. "standing with the convoy" was a nice little boost to get O'Toole out and pull him up in the eyes of convoy supporters without having to do anything other than say a few words. What else would you expect from someone whose entire career has been lived in the House of Commons. Poor guy - I hope he is wisened by the experience.

Every time I look at the news 8 see people talking about racism and how bad it is. Im 64 years old and just do not see it. Granted it exists in most cultures and nations among all skin colors but I do not see it like liberals make it out to be.

All the heated rhetoric from the far left lunatics and somebody finally tried to take action. Will the leftist politicians be impeached for inciting violence? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-kavanaugh-home-armed-man-arrested

Hyperventilating again, I see.

So good I said it twice

Is that the old "do what I say, not what I do" kind of advice?

Crickets from the Trump supporters, predictably. Dont worry fellas, “proof” of the Big Lie will appear any day now, right alongside Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate and Saddam’s WMD arsenal and directions on how to find the invisible door to the invisible basement in that DC pizza parlour where the dems keep their secret child sex dungeon.

I know. It's bizarre. MSM caught lying soooo many times, plus they conveniently "forget" all the lies they were fed about the vaccines safety and efficacy. You'd think they'd wake up. But nope. I can't believe how many people are soooooo asleep that they can't see that SOMETHING very wrong is going on.

He likes being lied to. He prefers it. He's a useful idiot.

Psssst...... ......instead of just quickly googling anything that says what you want it to say, do some research. Then you won't look like such a fool.

There must be some truth to it. It's all over the place: SCANDAL: The president of PharmaMar is among the more than 2,200 of the elite falsely vaccinated with Covid – Europe Renaissance Head of Phrama Company on List of 2,200 People with Fake Vaccine Docs (breitbart.com) The president of PharmaMar, among the more than 2,200 falsely vaccinated with Covid - Teller Report Big Pharma President Caught With A Fake Vaccine Passport (thepulse.one) Police Charge Big Pharma Boss With Falsifying His Covid Vaccination Status (eutimes.net) I understand that you don't want to believe it because CTV hasn't covered it. ? That's okay. Eat your CTV pablum and go back to sleep, baby boy. The adults will deal with this.

You dive into the conspiracy pool in the deep end Eh LOL "Your News Wire Yournewswire.com has been a prolific poster of misinformation and conspiracy theories. The website now redirects to newspunch.com — another domain that Your News Wire has used in the past. Both sites are registered by a company called The People’s Voice, which is run by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in California." https://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/ "YourNewsWire is one of the most popular fake news publishers in the world. The website, run by two men in Los Angeles, regularly pumps out hoaxes and conspiracy theories. It has promoted the Pizzagate conspiracy theory and has been the subject of a glossy profile by The Hollywood Reporter." https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2018/fact-checkers-have-debunked-this-fake-news-site-80-times-its-still-publishing-on-facebook/

Did you miss the memo the rest of the world got? Trudeau looks like a ridiculous hypocrite in international circles, touting democracy in Ukraine while bringing in martial law at home against political opponents and treating the unvaccinated like second class citizens.

You just don't get it. The vaccine was never promised to eradicate covid, it was to lessen the effects and prevent death in those with jeopardized heath situations. And it did that. It ws never to be a cure. It is a known fact that covid is not going away.

This is about the government trying to find excuses to unfairly put down political protests. The government treats our Constitution like it’s a suggestion.

Who is applauding? The fact is he is in jail for minor charges, mischief and a few others. There were others that were charged. All others with exception of Lich spent no time in jail and were out on bail. Lich is out on bail. This guy and his buddy are sitting there on minor charges because they cannot get bail and cannot get a lawyer to work with them. This has nothing to do with western civilization, this has nothing to do with politics, this has everything to do with Pat King himself.

1. 2. The Convoy leaders LIED more than the sneaky MSM misdirection or political hopscotch deceptions. If you don't know how to lie properly, stay out of politics. This is a lesson for Lich, Pat King et. al. 3. Not me. I sleep soundly at night. If you want to build a system where persuasion is illegal, advertising is banned and so on I'm very interested in how you would put that together. As it is, though, you hate Trudeau and anybody who doesn't also hate Trudeau it seems and so it's just all anger. One can criticize (or defend) the system without having to like or hate it.

People who are in a position where they have to reply to questions indirectly and untruthfully, or dodge, lie and slither, but still keep on blathering as if they're in a position to pontificate, are disgusting to conservatives. Lies about Russian collusion, Smollett, Sandman, M Brown, R Brooks, the Waukesha car crash, WE, SNC, Convoy Naziism, blocked ambulances at hospital protests, vaccine efficacy, vaccine side effects, etc are just fine for you guys. You like them, you repeat them, you disgust decent people. That's how.

Don't speak for me; you've no idea what I think. For instance, I think being in jail for months is overkill for his charge. But I prefer accuracy and honesty - hysterical hyperbole that he was imprisoned because he's a political opponent is neither accurate nor honest. If you really believed that this government will jail people for their political views, you wouldn't be on here hyperventilating and calling Trudeau "PM Blackface."

The Great Replacement Theory is Racist. Full Stop. There's nothing particularly special about being white. Europeans had geographical advantages and subdued other cultures through colonialism. This is why "White" countries tend to be richer. There are no particularly successful places on Earth, currently, that don't embrace a Globalized approach. That means accepting people from other countries amongst your ranks, and intermarrying is a likely outcome. It does not make the country worse.

How so ? Do you expect 'the system' to reach out and deny people their rights in dictating how they deal with their own lawyers and so on ? Or are you just angry that the divisive politics that has fueled this whole convoy thing is now affecting people who were on the fence about the whole thing ? If this is culture war, then it's culture war. Pat King could be punished prejudicially still, if the powers that be want it. I don't know that we're there yet.

You disgust me

1. Who cares ? That doesn't make her a genius on Canadian politics - far from it. 2. Well I wouldn't do that. 3. Oh well... 4. News flash: our system works and the Soviet one didn't. Maybe getting a Soviet perspective on what's wrong with our education is misguided.

1. I am perceiving a heightened volume of hyperbole coming from you on this. 'Dewey' ? As in 'Dewey Decimal System' ? That would definitely be a mind-bending conspiracy theory to read. You'd probably have to go away into the woods for a little while after you read that one. 2. So you're living with a Soviet ? Hmmm... maybe there's something else going on here ? 3. How can someone who was brought up in a Soviet education system teach their kids to see both sides ? Think, man, THINK. 4. Lunch line rules: one roll per student, and no rolls for people who spell 'role' as 'roll' 5. And above all, marry a Soviet operative for a balanced perspective on how to educate your children.... I kid, I kid...

Nothing political about it. They broke small , simple, local minor laws. Most people get off but these guys sit in jail for 115 (or more) days. What losers LOL Hey, if they could find a lawyer willing to help them, they would have been out long ago like the Lich chick but, ... They could be out of jail but for some reason known only to them and the lawyers they cannot get, there they sit. Simple truth is there are people that no one wants to help

Imprisoning political opponents, generally eliminating connections and ignoring the reality does not and will not help you govern more intelligently, effectively and efficiently and probably, the opposite. It gives no extra ability and capacity to understand the time and adapt to it on the contrary, takes from it: why adapt if we can just shut the curtains. Sooo many have learned this simple truth the hard way. Dinosaurs know.

There it is LOL! So you DO have commies under your bed like everyone else. Yup, change anything and we all die. Out here on the coast we were called commies for proposing regional management boards for west coast marine fisheries, as an alternative to management from a city 1500 miles or more from the nearest ocean. Instead they threw thousands out of work, refused to even try to rebuild salmon runs and after the dust finally settled on their reformation of our fishery BC's wealthiest billionaire wound up controlling 40% of the catch. We had a saying, it's hard to stab someone in the back when they're sitting across the table from you. It's a lot easier from 1500 miles away.

My hope is to eliminate as much of the secrecy that is baked into our system of government as possible. As I've said before I'm quite certain a few changes to the existing Lobbying Act - that eliminate in-camera lobbying of public officials about issues and topics that fall within the public's domain - would make a world of difference in the dismal levels of public trust in government and in how we're governed. I mean I'd much rather we just try that before changing the constitution, separating, going with prop rep, doing away with the monarchy or any of the other far more drastic proposals that have been offered up as an alternative to a status quo that one hell of a lot of Canadians are profoundly and increasingly dissatisfied with. That said I'm a little mystified that so many Canadians are so tolerant of lobbying as we know it. As I've also said and maybe it deserves its own thread, I think the deep mistrust that has settled over much of our society especially as it pertains to politics is due to years and decades of the inherent evasiveness of our politicians and governments. It's like an accumulated toxin that our society can longer absorb without killing it. I honestly think public mistrust of government is an even bigger issue and hurdle than climate change and we can't possibly hope to grapple with any other issue until we fix this one. Given that no one really seems very serious about transparency and accountability my basic premise is that of all the alternatives on tap that citizens assembly would be the best one. I think it would depoliticize our democracy to the greatest extent possible and in so doing, make lobbying in secret more difficult if not pointless. As for all your other questions...I get it that you're a huge fan of our system of governance and that virtually everything I've proposed is just a complete non-starter. That's ok. FWIW when you put the effort you do into cajoling people to embrace things they way they are I can only shake my head.

My opinion- the problem is real and may never be completely eliminated. But perhaps in a way it should not be, it may be too costly to society in other ways. Racism may be a consequence of something else, like nationalism, competitiveness, group-think. Humans tend to organize themselves into local groups. This might still be true even if we all lived under the glorious banner of red communism. Just like an a bug’s hive, ya got yer Queens. And those who would die for her. A good hive thrives and grows, but if it gets too big, it’s not a good thing. Eventually a separation takes place, perhaps not unlike a political schism of sorts. No doubt many an insect empire has fallen in glorious battle, their tails untold... For what is communism then, if not like the life of these insects?

Hilarious...Only 3 words which utterly destroy your assertion. Hunter Biden's Laptop.

People are actually way more racist now. Before Obama mystically determined that Trayvon Martin was shot just for being a cute black 12 yr-old there were no racist riots for about 20 years, to 1992. Before the Rodney King verdict you'd probably have to go back another 20 years. Between 2014 and now there were probably 36 months which would be characterized by widespread racist riots. Racist comments are common now on shows like The View and "Joy Reid's Racist Screed".

LMAO. That’s literally the definition of believing in the Big Lie and all the baseless right wing conspiracy theories that HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEM . You believe them because you’re told to believe them.

This comment shows a complete misunderstanding of the situation, probably due to your programmed thinking. And that’s on you.

It definitely makes me question the value of having a Canada. Imagine the savings if all powers devolved to the provinces as independent states. We could stop paying off Quebec and stop paying for all this French language training in the rest of Canada. We could end the Trudeau Laurentian elites’ overbearing and expensive social controls and pet projects. Quebec would be isolated in North America and stop draining our coffers. Ontario would finally fire on all cylinders economically. Alberta could keep its oil money. BC would lapse into eco-communist hell. I’m starting to not give a shit. Trudeau’s Canada, that we’re always told is colonial and shameful, is getting too expensive. Scrap all this federal nonsense altogether. Let the communists in Ottawa get real jobs and work for a living.

If legal gun owners are not the problem, why are legal gun owners the target of current legislation? And criminals are not mentioned? I list a few, assault-style firearms... they changed the definition of assault weapons, this new narrative is the one liberals have been using...why is it a lie, well Military grade assault weapons have been Illegal in Canada for decades now... The weapons being added to the list are designed for Civilian use, they have not assaulted weapons, they are sporting rifles. They are capable of receiving high-capacity magazines...which is true, but high-capacity magazines have been illegal for decades, banned and if you're caught with one you forfeit all your weapons for life... The government has been quoted using this phrase many times "they are designed to kill the maximum amount of people in the minimum time"... first Canadian magazines only hold 5 rounds no more, and second the rifle is semi-auto meaning only one bullet comes out for every squeeze of the trigger.. It was designed for civilian use , unlike military assault weapons which have a full auto capacity. Other lies include telling everyone gun deaths is increasing, when it has actually decreased, Fact check: is gun violence rising in Canada? | CBC News CFFR has plenty of videos, out of all the rest of the lies, see the interview with bill Blair, at the end of the video they will tell you what is factual and what is not, keep in mind Blair was the chief of police in Toronto, one would assume he would know what he is talking about... (1) COMMENTARY: Data shows Toronto’s gun ‘surge’ never happened - Toronto | Globalnews.ca Once again the public is being misinformed by the government and does not know the whole story... That and the majority is not always right, we interned the Japanese Canadians with a mjority agreeing but later it was discovered it was the wrong thing to do...That and we already establish legal gun owners are not the problem. Gun Control Agenda Lies Exposed - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights Canada’s gun ban has some owners confused, angry. Here’s what we know about the rules - National | Globalnews.ca

That project 21 article is terrible. The war on poverty was not targeted to any one race, and beyond that they barely use any numbers in the article... The numbers they do use show that poverty fell so what are they saying exactly?

Another worthless post by you. It's normal for people to die of the flu. They get to that point in life where they're week-to-week or day-today, they get the flu, they cash in. Eventually we'll all die. If it happens to us when we're over 80, and have co-morbidities, it's not a surprise. For two years our MSM has been pretending that healthy, young people are dropping like flies of covid. They're not. It just simply isn't true. Then, when the MSM finally dialled back their vax success stories from "you won't get covid" to "you won't get as sick from covid" to "you'll get sick but you won't end up in hospital" to "you'll end up in hospital but not ICU" to "you might end up in ICU but you won't die" to the eventual "OK, some people die, but they're most elderly with co-morbidities"..... Uh, hello, that was the case from DAY ONE! And it's not just "some people", it's "85% of the people are vaccinated and 80% of the covid deaths are from the vaccinted. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DYING AFTER THEY'RE VACCINATED." Literally everything that Trudeau said and did re: covid was a lie or catastrophically stupid. I've rattled off the list before. You're immune to information that you don't like. I get it. But the fact remains, Trudeau has lied about everything re: covid, and there's no chance whatsoever that he wasn't lying about the quarantine centers. It's incredibly stupid to take Trudeau at his word. Trudeau lied. We both know it. Now we have a gesundheitspass. The MSM was targeting Hillier because he was telling inconvenient truths. He wasn't wrong at all about the quarantine centers. He just spilled the beans too early.

Died "of". Kids died "of" swine flu. Almost no one dies "of" covid, especially not children. >96% of people who died of covid had at least one other co-morbidity. On average it's something like 2.6 of them. The vast majority of covid deaths in Canada occurred among people over 80. Covid didn't "kill" those people. They were walking on the edge of their graves and covid nudged them. The theory that we need to vax kids from 5-12, and now even younger, is plain stupidity. The jab is not safe. That's a fact. The jab doesn't work. That's a fact. Forcing people to take it is stupid, bordering on criminal. We don't have "voluntary" quarantine centers because Trudeau thought that we needed them. We have quarantine centers because Trudeau expected that w he would have to force people to go there. Our government lied about the existence of covid quarantine centers when they started building them, and the MSM here even smeared Randy Hillier after he made Canadians aware of them while he was speaking in the Ontario legislature on Oct 8th. https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/health-officials-raise-disinformation-concerns-with-mpp-randy-hillier-1.5146729 Our PM said that he couldn't envision a future where there was a vaccine passport, three months later we already had vaccine passports. Then he started forcing Canadians to get the vax or lose their jobs. If you don't think that he would force Canadians into quarantine just because he said so then you're a complete idiot.

Wrong. Terrorists don't need guns to kill people. The biggest terrorist attacks in the US were done with fertilzer, vans, and airplanes. As a leftist you're not even interested in dealing with mental health issues seriously. You're not even interested in treating violent crime seriously. You're literally the last person on earth who's fit to speak down to anyone about this topic. Tell the Jews in Germany that, who lived through the 1930s and 1940s. Oh wait, you can't, they were almost all killed by the Nazis. You're a guy who adores fascist overreach by our PM and is also against legal gun ownership. You're a modern version of the people in Nazi Germany who were all in favour of disarming citizens and you would have also been ok with the gesundheitspass and the freezing of dissidents' bank accounts. What did that all lead up to? How far down that path should we allow ourselves to go? Trust me, that was a rhetorical question, the last thing I want to hear is your answer lol. Chinese people who fear their government aren't paranoid ffs, and their gov't certainly isn't afraid of its citizens. You obviously don't know what's going on there now, nor are you aware of China's not-too-distant history. Thats just stupid. I'm pretty sure that almost everyone understands why there's no need to reply to it directly. OMG, your post just managed to go downhill. I did NOT see that coming. Never again will I doubt your ability to out-idjit yourself. Of course neither is ok, but: - on one side there is a group that's never been in favour of dangerous or violent protests and which is never willing to accept risks from violent offenders or mentally ill persons who express the will to commit violence, - on the other side there's a group which encourages violent & deadly protests and which discourages reasonable steps to prevent violent offenders & mentally ill persons (who express the desire to commit violent acts) from harming people. This one's a no-brainer. Leftists are useless trolls who don't have a fuckin' clue what it takes to have a safe, healthy society. FYI police are very important. Deterrents to serious crimes are important. The incarceration of dangerous individuals is paramount. Managing those threats is the basic mandate of the government. Without managing those things you may as well not have a government, because your society is crumbling from within and soon will lack the capacity to protect themselves from external threats. No one starts up businesses in high-crime areas. Without businesses you don't have an economy. Without industry you can't have a military. A peaceful, orderly society is the backbone of any healthy country. Leftists might want it, but they have no idea whatsoever how to achieve it. They're small-picture people. They only know how they feel, they can't look at topics from a rational, detached POV.

All bullshit. The US is the only country in the world that adheres to this warped doctrine and people are less safe and less free because of it. Feeling you have to be armed to ensure your personal safety is the opposite of freedom, it's living in fear. Every democratic country that doesn't subscribe to this lunacy is not China. Their governments and their people do not live in some kind of paranoid fear of each other. You have no problem with selling guns to mentally ill people because you will do nothing to stop it. So don't give me that crap. The lives of 19 little kids are less important to you than the life of a clown who lied to Congress in his confirmation hearing. Neither is OK but politization of everything is just the symptom of a sick society. Blaming everything on someone else just makes it impossible to find solutions to anything because it becomes all about self appointed enemies instead of actual issues.

It's obvious that you don't get anything. No one should be protesting outside of the home of SCJs. It's 100% idiotic that you think that's ok. It's 100% idiotic that Chuck Schumer would level a threat at a SCJ. It was predictabl that something like this would happen, just like it was predictable that something like the congressional baseball game shooting would occur. No one thinks that a school shooting is ok so don't put words in my mouth. It's a completely leftist phenomenon to say "The kid talks about massacring his classmates, but that shouldn't put a damper on his freedoms", and that's why there's even a debate on this. Yes, the price of having guns may be that something like the school massacre can happen if you insist on being stupid about mental health issues, but the other side of the coin is Shanghai. The gov't of China came and locked everyone in Shanghai inside of their homes and took their pets away to be euthanized. It has nothing to do with covid, covid is an excuse. It's purely an assault on their freedom and their individual will. You couldn't do that in Dallas because civilians with guns outnumber the police and soldiers with guns there, massively. Tanks don't actually turn the tide if you're outnumbered that badly. Eventually you have to step outside to take a shit or resupply with food, fuel and ammo and there's nowhere to get a moment's rest. Also, you can't actually use tanks inside of your own cities and then expect to live there. Gun ownership and freedom are inextricably linked and the people of Shanghai are a living testament to that.

It's obvious you don't get it. Someone stalks a judge with a gun and you are outraged. Someone massacres 22 kids and their teachers in their school and it's just the price of freedom.

Amurica, where everything can be fixed with a gun. Just reaping what they sew. https://news.yahoo.com/man-had-ar-15-style-112013028.html

It's all just more leftist liberal bull chit to try and stir up the racism pot, and to try and get more multiculturalism and diversity shoved down old whitey's throat. There is probably just as many racists in other nonwhite societies in Canada as there is in the white societies of Canada. But when I read stories about how many white people are being denied government jobs or promotions because they are white, well that is enough to want to make me become a racist. The government tells me that I should not be a racist, but yet, the government practices racism all the time. When the government or some private business has a sign up that says that only nonwhites need apply, well now that is promoting real racism. All governments do have a certain quota system and numbers in effect where they must hire nonwhites only. Even if they are not qualified to do the job. That is racism. There is no real racism in Canada at all. The only racism that we are hearing about is the one that the lying government and the lying media keeps trying to push and manufacture on the many gullible stupid Canadians out there who will believe anything that those two liars tell them without question. ?

I don't think people are more racist today but in a sense we are now living in a constant state of apprehension because of the fear of being labelled racist for anything and everything. I should point out this state of apprehension applies primarily to white people who get blamed for all the world's problems. It is the left that is always using identity politics as a weapon. They don't care about character, it's all about skin colour.

The vast majority of Americans know Biden is totally out to lunch and they will show this in the mid-terms. Trudeau is on borrowed time. The longer he flogs draconian mandates that crush the unvaccinated and maintains brutal carbon taxes when fuel prices have doubled, the more he risks eliminating the Liberals from the electoral map three long years from now. So he might as well continue doing stupid stuff, as it will spell his political ruin.