Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, Shady said:

So we’re just borrowing more and more money to pay for it.

Funnily enough there doesn't seem to be any shortage of lenders either.

What do they know that apparently eludes everyone else?

[Legato]

18 minutes ago, Shady said:

What a disaster of a budget.  An $80 billion dollar deficit!

Liberals are still calling their spending investments.  It’s right out of the Trudeau playbook.  According to the Liberals, they’ve been “investing” in Canada since 2015, but without anything to show for it.  They just keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over again.  Expecting a different result.

So who's going to benefit, the Canadian taxpayer or the Carney via Brookfield.

[eyeball]

I'm with Elizabeth Green on this budget. It's crap. I hope the budget falls.

More political chaos suits my mood I guess. My morbid curiosity is increasing as the years go by.

The pain of hitting rock bottom is the only path towards an appreciation for the alternative. Unfortunately it'll be more like a dead cat bounce.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I'm with Elizabeth Green on this budget. It's crap. I hope the budget falls.

More political chaos suits my mood I guess. My morbid curiosity is increasing as the years go by.

 

That's the spirit !  Gotta start breaking things if you want better outcomes.  Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

That's the spirit !  Gotta start breaking things if you want better outcomes.  Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

Any thoughts on when these better outcomes will be realized? What would be kind of insane is expecting them sooner rather than later, especially after everything is smashed up I suspect.

At this point it's all pretty much just entertainment don't you think? Smell you in the peanut gallery if you don't smell me first.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Any thoughts on when these better outcomes will be realized? What would be kind of insane is expecting them sooner rather than later, especially after everything is smashed up I suspect.

 

For Canadians, real wage growth has been stagnant for a long time.  Policies and markets are conspiring to keep labour cheap, and higher paying jobs scarce.  Temporary workers and legal/illegal immigrants are bottom feeding all the entry level employment away.

You have cited many instances of crazy fishery management practices that have gutted owners (pun intended) and stifled access to resources.

When will that change ?   When Canadians take back their country from politicians worshiping feel good performative nonsense.    Build it...grow it...mine it...drill it.

[Shady]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Funnily enough there doesn't seem to be any shortage of lenders either.

What do they know that apparently eludes everyone else?

I’m not sure what you mean.  But I do know that our borrow has led to a place where for the first time ever, the federal government now spends more on interest on debt than on health care.  Maybe you think that that’s good policy, but I don’t.  And if our borrowing doesn’t get under control, paying on interest on debt will squeeze funding from all programs.

3 hours ago, Legato said:

So who's going to benefit, the Canadian taxpayer or the Carney via Brookfield.

Definitely Carney.

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm with Elizabeth Green on this budget. It's crap. I hope the budget falls.

More political chaos suits my mood I guess. My morbid curiosity is increasing as the years go by.

The pain of hitting rock bottom is the only path towards an appreciation for the alternative. Unfortunately it'll be more like a dead cat bounce.

Elizabeth May, sorry i can't stop laughing....Only in BC would you get a old drunken wind bag like that voted in....

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Shady said:

What a disaster of a budget.  An $80 billion dollar deficit!

Liberals are still calling their spending investments.  It’s right out of the Trudeau playbook.  According to the Liberals, they’ve been “investing” in Canada since 2015, but without anything to show for it.  They just keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over again.  Expecting a different result.

It's very much a Trudeau Budget on steroids.

Investment spending that will never happen that way, it'll wind up getting funneled into liberal friendly consultants and a little bit of it will be spent in writings to help keep the liberal vote. But most of it'll be squandered. We're going to spend 1.5 billion reducing the civil service at the liberals increased in the first place and we will get a savings of 83 million a year as a result which means it will take about 20 years To save enough to pay for the mistake

Immigration will still exceed 2019 levels even though we're not building the homes we need for that. Very trudeau. And i bet that 'somehow' actual immigration exceeds targets. 

The whole thing is a lie, and it's a lie that spends more money than we have ever spent in the past and adds about 3 billion a year to our interest payments assuming rates don't go up

 

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Elizabeth May, sorry i can't stop laughing....Only in BC would you get a old drunken wind bag like that voted in....

More specifically Only Vancouver Island. IYKYK

[Gaétan]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You have no idea what actual genocide even is you stupid little donkey.

 

There have been more than 500,000 deaths — these are not my figures."

[Gaétan]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The opposite is true. The longer the killing goes on the more the international community tends to become impatient. If you kill everybody right away then it's too late for them to say anything and they tend to move on.

Sorry but you're 100% wrong

That is factually incorrect. Abstention is a valid option and that's why it's built into the system. If it was their job just to say yes or no then there wouldn't be an option to abstain.

Abstention is not smiled upon and should be used sparingly and infrequently but it is a perfectly valid option. The fact that you don't like it does not change that fact

We know you work for the Conservatives because they are cruel to Palestinians. You're just spreading misinformation here.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

You have cited many instances of crazy fishery management practices that have gutted owners (pun intended) and stifled access to resources.

When will that change ?   When Canadians take back their country from politicians worshiping feel good performative nonsense.    Build it...grow it...mine it...drill it.

It's already changing...First Nations who've secured the right thru our Supreme Court to exclusive fisheries have interpreted the ruling a little differently than DFO.

When enforcement boats pull up to the stern to ask what they think they're doing fishing outside their territory they just tell DFO to fùck off. And that's what they do.

Recall I also cited economists who study small fishing communities the way coal miners did. What's coming is inevitable.

You can see it happening in lobster and eel fisheries back east where fishermen are turning on one another.

When the waterhole gets smaller the animals get meaner.

It's a desperate old world we're heading towards not a new brave one. But damn, I have to say it's a little inspiring to see DFO back off the way they do.

I bet Don Lemon would agree.

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

We know you work for the Conservatives because they are cruel to Palestinians. You're just spreading misinformation here.

By "We" i take it you mean you AND the voices in your head?

I've told you before they're not your friends. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

I’m not sure what you mean.  But I do know that our borrow has led to a place where for the first time ever, the federal government now spends more on interest on debt than on health care.  Maybe you think that that’s good policy, but I don’t.  And if our borrowing doesn’t get under control, paying on interest on debt will squeeze funding from all programs.

Definitely Carney.

Like I said lenders are obviously abundant and not least bit concerned about what you know or think needs to be done. So I ask again what do they know that you're missing?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Like I said lenders are obviously abundant and not least bit concerned about what you know or think needs to be done. So I ask again what do they know that you're missing?

They know where they're bank accounts are and who's going to give them money when they finally step down from politics. An option that other people don't have

The carpetbaggers never worry that the people they leave behind will have bare floors

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Elizabeth May, sorry i can't stop laughing....Only in BC would you get a old drunken wind bag like that voted in....

Meanwhile in your neck of the woods Conservatives are joining the Liberals.

LMAO!

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They know where they're bank accounts are and who's going to give them money when they finally step down from politics. An option that other people don't have

The carpetbaggers never worry that the people they leave behind will have bare floors

Sure, until the tar and feathers are rolled out.

By rights you righties should be the ones carrying the torches and pitchforks except if no poor man gave you a job...

...decisions decisions....

 

[bush_cheney2004]

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's a desperate old world we're heading towards not a new brave one. But damn, I have to say it's a little inspiring to see DFO back off the way they do.

 

But there is  a glimmer of hope in that circumstance...First Nations are fighting back, showing the way to change the status quo...breaking things.   We had the same issue with Native American bands on state lakes and Lake of the Woods (which borders Manitoba/Ontario.   The battles were epic and tempers flared, but eventually a new normal of resource sharing and management prevailed for subsistence, commercial, and sport fishing alike.

Point being, it was the Native bands and courts who broke government overreach and over regulation.  Now the cause may die off with the Boomers and Gen-X, but one can hope that younger folk will be up to the challenge.

[herbie]

You want too see chaos?
Let these nut jobs wanting a balanced budget in these economic times. You'll see a recession in three seconds and a pink slip within a week. Only to find EI slashed to the bone too.

 

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Point being, it was the Native bands and courts who broke government overreach and over regulation.

Yup, revolutions often coalesce around indigenous aspirations.

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Now the cause may die off with the Boomers and Gen-X, but one can hope that younger folk will be up to the challenge.

It'll be when Earthlings are forced by necessity to tell national governments to get their countries off our planet.

Trouble is we'll have probably cooked the climate by then.

Myself, I'm pretty sure the future will belong to the billionaires that are burrowing themselves into their bunkers in remote corners of the world. Locating yourself near one of them is probably your best bet. Don't forget no poor man ever gave anyone a job right?

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Myself, I'm pretty sure the future will belong to the billionaires that are burrowing themselves into their bunkers in remote corners of the world. Locating yourself near one of them is probably your best bet. Don't forget no poor man ever gave anyone a job right?

 

True, but there are just not enough billionaires around for all of us, so I am satisfied to mingle with millionaires and thousandaires.  I'm too old now to be hired anyway.

It just seems that Canada has been blessed with so many riches, but the government(s) go out of their way to screw things up...on purpose !  If this government falls, will it just be more of the same to follow ?   

Hey...I hear that Stephen Harper is available !

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure, until the tar and feathers are rolled out.

 

Are you joking? Left wing supporters like yourself revel in their corruption and keep voting for it. There won't be any tar and feathers, you're more likely to break out the wine and spritzers to celebrate their successful grift. That's what you did with Trudeau and what I'm sure you're going to do with Carney

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By rights you righties should be the ones carrying the torches and pitchforks 

We believe in the rule of law. It's the left that goes around killing people these days, and you guys have been the pitchfork and torches crew for ages. How much did the riots in the US cost again, 4 billion? 5 billion? You were happy about that

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

It just seems that Canada has been blessed with so many riches, but the government(s) go out of their way to screw things up...on purpose !

Careful, assigning purpose to it soon veers into Conspiracy-ville. It's never been more than swarms of piranhas doing what swarms of piranhas do. When the bites on they feed.

15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

If this government falls, will it just be more of the same to follow ?   

That's what I'd expect, except they'd probably get a majority.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

🤮

Clean that up when you're done.