Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[CdnFox]

16 hours ago, eyeball said:

Call it welfare then. Or is it like tariff and tax, two completely different things?

It's not welfare either.  Lefties misuse THAT word whenever it comes to business. 

Nor is a tariff, you're just being weird now. Honestly by your age you'd THINK youd' have figured out how english works. 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Not maybe. Definitely.

 

Probably.  But nothing in this world is definite. 

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As the efficiency grows and the costs tumble, renewables and and nuclear etc...will replace fossils. Not years but a few decades.

That will probably happen but to replace fossil fuels we will need new technology we just don't have yet. But that will probably come too, they're working on it and they're getting closer all the time to Technologies that actually would provide the power we need in a fashion that we can use it affordably and effectively as we currently use fossils. 

There's no real doubt in my mind that just as we went from wood to coal, and cold oil, and oil to natural gas etc that the day will come when we move from oil to the next evolution which will almost certainly be mostly green

We can all hope that it happens sooner rather than later.

[Gaétan]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

You don't read the correct sources.  There is lots of false information out there.  Why do you ignore facts?  You don't seem to believe the oil industry contributes billions of dollars to the Canadian economy.  What kind of alt reality do you live in?  Your postings don't make sense at all.  I reply, not because you will listen.  I know you won't.  I reply so others reading your nonsense don't accidentally believe you.  

The oil industry in Alberta creates thousands of jobs and brings in billions of dollars in royalties and taxes.  

How do you think Alberta has been so rich and provides billions of dollars to Quebec in equalization payments?  Where do you think that money comes from?   The oil industry.

You don’t understand economics, because the royalties we receive from oil exploitation come out of your own pocket. Corrupt people made you believe you could benefit from it, but in reality, you’re only getting back a tiny fraction of your own money. Exemple: The company extracts a barrel worth $60 from the ground, sells it to the consumer, and returns $10 to the government, which uses that money to fund public services. So in reality, you pay $60 and only get $10 back — meaning you lose $50

Edited October 31, 2025 by Gaétan

[blackbird]

24 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

You don’t understand economics, because the royalties we receive from oil exploitation come out of your own pocket. Corrupt people made you believe you could benefit from it, but in reality, you’re only getting back a tiny fraction of your own money. Exemple: The company extracts a barrel worth $60 from the ground, sells it to the consumer, and returns $10 to the government, which uses that money to fund public services. So in reality, you pay $60 and only get $10 back — meaning you lose $50

We could give up oil and cease to exist.

[Gaétan]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

We could give up oil and cease to exist.

I’m not saying that losing that $50 isn’t useful — but it’s false to claim you’re making money from oil exploitation itself, which could be replaced by a less harmful energy source. That loss is actually an investment like — it fuels your vehicle so you can get to work and earn a salary

[blackbird]

10 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

I’m not saying that losing that $50 isn’t useful — but it’s false to claim you’re making money from oil exploitation itself, which could be replaced by a less harmful energy source. That loss is actually an investment like — it fuels your vehicle so you can get to work and earn a salary

There is nothing that could replace oil. There are millions of vehicles, ships and planes.  Unless you have a magic wand.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

It's not welfare either.  Lefties misuse THAT word whenever it comes to business. 

Nor is a tariff, 

🙄

That said given the way Trump demands his tariffs he is acting a lot like a big fat useless welfare queen.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Honestly by your age you'd THINK youd' have figured out how english works.

Maybe one day you'll figure out why it works.

[Gaétan]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

There is nothing that could replace oil. There are millions of vehicles, ships and planes.  Unless you have a magic wand.

We can replace oil with hydrogen — there are cars that run on hydrogen already. It’s a matter of political will. In just a short time, we developed battery-powered vehicles, but that wasn’t the right path because they pollute and waste resources. We should never have invested in that. There’s too much corruption, and that’s why we keep making bad decisions.

[taxme]

On 10/21/2025 at 5:50 PM, Army Guy said:

I hope that is not true, i just don't have enough time to be rubbing liberals noses in a loss, it would take all my time....i mean just take all those heads exploding in the streets , who is going to clean up all that Sh!t, see what i did there Sh!t for brains , heads exploding, ya you get it.......`

anyways i'm not up for it, Conservative's would be parting like it was 1999, there would be no booze any where, they would be rounding up what was left of the lefties and deporting them to Gaza for the rebuild....

Liberals would be asking for MAID in record numbers....drug use would spike so liberal's could cope.... and lets not even get into the PP haters....crap they would be falling from the skys with no parachutes....in the cities....we would be up to our bellies in crap....

But the next day after the clean up, conservative polices would start to undo the liberal mistakes over the last 10 plus years.....Justin would be locked up, in a semi trailer with glass walls that would tour the country so conservatives could throw rotten vegetables at him for 10 bucks a throw...we could solve the deficit with just one cross country tour...

It is just to much work right now, maybe next year when we are all ready for the parting and round up...

 

I love the idea of arresting Turdeau and then be able to put that pos in a glass trailer and take him on a tour across Canada. Geez, i would pay a hundred bucks just to be able to throw anything at him as the little weasel and coward crouches down on the trailer floor and hopes that the glass does not break. 

That slim ball needs to pay for his crimes that he has committed against Canadians and crimes against humanity for what that slim ball has done to Canada and Canadians in the past ten years. I say keep him in that trailer forever as far as i am concerned. That is the least that we could do to him. Works well for me!! 

PS: There is nothing more for me to hope for than for the conservatives to win the next election. What i fear the most is that many of those millions of lieberal lovers and supporters out there will once again vote for the lieberals again. Those lieberals are not well known for being very intelligent.

Those same lieberals seem to love taken it up the arse all the time. They not only hurt themselves but they also will hurt them selves and the rest of the intelligent conservative people out there who are smart and wise enough to not want to have another four more years of lieberal Marxist WEF globalist years. 

The conservatives should be offering a lot of goodies for Canadians if they want to get elected, like getting rid of the GST, no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime and especially no taxes on Old Age Security. That would be a big YES for the old timers. 

I am pretty sure that would be enough for everyone to win over and want to vote for the conservatives, especially for the old timers, which should get their vote for the conservatives. There is nothing more that we old timers want to hear is that the government is going to finally give me a few more extra bucks in my pension check. 

Hey, we could get that money back by cutting foreign aid and no more money for illegal and illegal asylum phony refugees. If you enter Canada illegally, you should not have any access to Canadian taxpayer's tax dollars. Just pick them all up and ship them all out. It is time for some tough love here in Canada No more wussy-**** stuff and nonsense anymore. We must all think Canada first. 👍😇

Edited October 31, 2025 by taxme

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

🙄

That said given the way Trump demands his tariffs he is acting a lot like a big fat useless welfare queen.

 

Again that's not really accurate. It would be more reasonable to say he's acting like a bully or possibly a slum landlord. Thanks to 10 years of liberal mismanagement he now has us by the short and curlies and he's leveraging that to get what he sees as best for his country. 

Our guy on the other hand is caving to him at every turn and begging for his scraps, which he's not inclined to give.

[blackbird]

39 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

We can replace oil with hydrogen — there are cars that run on hydrogen already. It’s a matter of political will. In just a short time, we developed battery-powered vehicles, but that wasn’t the right path because they pollute and waste resources. We should never have invested in that. There’s too much corruption, and that’s why we keep making bad decisions.

You don't understand how the world works.  Hydrogen could never replace oil.  Everyone would need a new vehicle including ships and planes.  It's just not feasible.  We also use oil for manufacturing and millions of other things.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

We can replace oil with hydrogen —

No we can't. If we could we would have already. The technology is not ready. The fact that if you test cars are able to function for short periods of time does not mean the technology is sufficiently mature.

Maybe someday but we're not there yet

[herbie]

Oh FFS are some of you never going to stop with the bullshit? No one is trying to kill the oil industry, but those trying to kill any move away from total reliance on it are sure doing their best to kill all alternatives!
Endlessly repeating the nonsense the technology isn't there when it is, has been for years and is improving and getting cheaper year after year. The nonsense the infrastructure isn't there when it also grows by the year and advancing an argument to stop building it as if that's a sensible idea.

But speaking to the subject of this thread, an early election, did no one understand the comment on 'turkeys anxious for an early Christmas'?
Who the hell would benefit? Not YOU or any other political paert!

 

[Legato]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS are some of you never going to stop with the bullshit? No one is trying to kill the oil industry, but those trying to kill any move away from total reliance on it are sure doing their best to kill all alternatives!
Endlessly repeating the nonsense the technology isn't there when it is, has been for years and is improving and getting cheaper year after year. The nonsense the infrastructure isn't there when it also grows by the year and advancing an argument to stop building it as if that's a sensible idea.

But speaking to the subject of this thread, an early election, did no one understand the comment on 'turkeys anxious for an early Christmas'?
Who the hell would benefit? Not YOU or any other political paert!

 

 

[herbie]

An exact example of Peepee LePew and the Conservatives.
Like mushrooms, they're edible. Some only once....

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

An exact example of Peepee LePew and the Conservatives.
Like mushrooms, they're edible. Some only once....

Whooooosh!!!

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS are some of you never going to stop with the bullshit? No one is trying to kill the oil industry, but those trying to kill any move away from total reliance on it are sure doing their best to kill all alternatives!
Endlessly repeating the nonsense the technology isn't there when it is, has been for years and is improving and getting cheaper year after year. The nonsense the infrastructure isn't there when it also grows by the year and advancing an argument to stop building it as if that's a sensible idea.

But speaking to the subject of this thread, an early election, did no one understand the comment on 'turkeys anxious for an early Christmas'?
Who the hell would benefit? Not YOU or any other political paert!

 

Literally none of that is true and you know it, 

The llbs desperately wanted to kill the oil industry

And endlessly repeating nonsense is your thing. 

Carney's popularity is dropping and people are starting to realize he's a fraud. 

We've always known YOU were  

 

[Gaétan]

Hydrogen Cars in 2025

ModelManufacturerTypeEstimated RangeEstimated Price

Toyota MiraiToyotaSedan~650 km≈ €72,000

Hyundai NexoHyundaiSUV~660 km≈ €80,000

BMW iX5 HydrogenBMWSUV~500 kmLimited prototype

Hopium MachinaHopium (France)Luxury sedan~1000 km≈ €120,000

NamX HUVNamX (France)SUV~800 km≈ €65,000

These vehicles use a fuel cell that converts hydrogen into electricity to power an electric motor. They emit only water vapor.

Advantages

Fast refueling: 3 to 5 minutes to fill up

Long range: often greater than battery-electric vehicles

Zero direct emissions: no CO₂ or fine particles from the exhaust

Conclusion

Hydrogen offers a promising path, provided we invest in green production and adequate infrastructure. Batteries are effective for urban use but pose ecological challenges. Oil, though dominant, is incompatible with climate goals.

 Critical Perspective

Batteries are sold to us as a miracle solution. But their production pollutes, exploits children in mines, and depends on limited resources. Oil? It destroys our health, our climate, our future.

Hydrogen, on the other hand, emits only water vapor. It refuels in 5 minutes. It can be produced locally, without dependence on multinationals. So why not invest massively? Because oil and battery lobbies deliberately slow its development.

 Final Call

It’s time to break free from the technological lie. Hydrogen is a clean, powerful, and sustainable solution. Let’s demand bold public policies.

 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Hydrogen Cars in 2025

ModelManufacturerTypeEstimated RangeEstimated Price

Toyota MiraiToyotaSedan~650 km≈ €72,000

Hyundai NexoHyundaiSUV~660 km≈ €80,000

BMW iX5 HydrogenBMWSUV~500 kmLimited prototype

Hopium MachinaHopium (France)Luxury sedan~1000 km≈ €120,000

NamX HUVNamX (France)SUV~800 km≈ €65,000

These vehicles use a fuel cell that converts hydrogen into electricity to power an electric motor. They emit only water vapor.

Advantages

Fast refueling: 3 to 5 minutes to fill up

Long range: often greater than battery-electric vehicles

Zero direct emissions: no CO₂ or fine particles from the exhaust

Conclusion

Hydrogen offers a promising path, provided we invest in green production and adequate infrastructure. Batteries are effective for urban use but pose ecological challenges. Oil, though dominant, is incompatible with climate goals.

 Critical Perspective

Batteries are sold to us as a miracle solution. But their production pollutes, exploits children in mines, and depends on limited resources. Oil? It destroys our health, our climate, our future.

Hydrogen, on the other hand, emits only water vapor. It refuels in 5 minutes. It can be produced locally, without dependence on multinationals. So why not invest massively? Because oil and battery lobbies deliberately slow its development.

 Final Call

It’s time to break free from the technological lie. Hydrogen is a clean, powerful, and sustainable solution. Let’s demand bold public policies.

 

None of those models are in production because they don't work or they're impractical. They're test vehicles to see if th concept works. It doesn't.  

BC and Cali were going to create the 'hydrogen highway with hydrogen fuel stations - they had to give it up. It dosent' work. 

The technology just isn't there yet. Maybe someday, but not now. 

 

 

[Gaétan]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

None of those models are in production because they don't work or they're impractical. They're test vehicles to see if th concept works. It doesn't.  

BC and Cali were going to create the 'hydrogen highway with hydrogen fuel stations - they had to give it up. It dosent' work. 

The technology just isn't there yet. Maybe someday, but not now. 

 

 

This is nothing but disinformation. Your favorite party, the Conservatives, are rotten to the core, and it's people like them who pay you to spread lies.

For conservatives, destroying the environment and the health of the population doesn’t bother them—as long as they’re lining their pockets.

Those who vote for them should see a psychologist, because they've been brainwashed by liars.

 

Edited November 1, 2025 by Gaétan

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

This is nothing but disinformation.

 

This is the truth. If it wasn't we would be driving hydrogen cars and we're not. Go find one to buy. You can't. Because they don't work

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Your favorite party, the Conservatives, are rotten to the core,

But it's the liberal party who's in power and has been for 10 years. The conservatives have absolutely nothing to do with this.

So you just got caught lying kiddo.

And this is why people have stopped caring about climate change. It's become obvious that the climate change types like yourself do nothing but lie. There isn't an honest bone in your body and never has been. You know very well we can't move to hydrogen at this point but you say it anyway because A lie serves you better than the truth at the moment

[Gaétan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

This is the truth. If it wasn't we would be driving hydrogen cars and we're not. Go find one to buy. You can't. Because they don't work

But it's the liberal party who's in power and has been for 10 years. The conservatives have absolutely nothing to do with this.

So you just got caught lying kiddo.

And this is why people have stopped caring about climate change. It's become obvious that the climate change types like yourself do nothing but lie. There isn't an honest bone in your body and never has been. You know very well we can't move to hydrogen at this point but you say it anyway because A lie serves you better than the truth at the moment

Conservatives have always sided with the powerful. Their goal is not to serve the people, but to strip them of everything. Those who support them are victims of brainwashing, orchestrated by complicit media and a well-oiled propaganda machine.

[WestCanMan]

CBC: "YAY! IT'S  💰💰💰 💰💰💰💰💰💰ELECTION💰💰💰 💰💰💰 💰💰💰 time again!"

[WestCanMan]

On 10/31/2025 at 1:08 PM, herbie said:

Oh FFS are some of you never going to stop with the bullshit? No one is trying to kill the oil industry, but those trying to kill any move away from total reliance on it are sure doing their best to kill all alternatives!
Endlessly repeating the nonsense the technology isn't there when it is, has been for years and is improving and getting cheaper year after year. The nonsense the infrastructure isn't there when it also grows by the year and advancing an argument to stop building it as if that's a sensible idea.

Your quote contradicts your own demigod, who said that "Canada plans to phase out the oil industry", and you are just a bit glib about the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of energy projects that were cancelled right after he was elected. 

Sorry if the facts kill your BS, herbie. 

[Gaétan]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Your quote contradicts your own demigod, who said that "Canada plans to phase out the oil industry", and you are just a bit glib about the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of energy projects that were cancelled right after he was elected. 

Sorry if the facts kill your BS, herbie. 

You like conservatives because they are cruel to Palestinians, and they should have let the Israeli army kill the hostages — releasing them was pointless.