What Is Climate Change?

[Deluge]

Climate Change is a tool for elitist a$$holes to drive humanity into some dystopian corner where they can easily manipul -  

Oh, the d*ckheads are starting: 

Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. Such shifts can be natural, due to changes in the sun’s activity or large volcanic eruptions. But since the 1800s, human activities have been the main driver of climate change, primarily due to the burning of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.

Burning fossil fuels generates greenhouse gas emissions that act like a blanket wrapped around the Earth, trapping the sun’s heat and raising temperatures.

The main greenhouse gases that are causing climate change include carbon dioxide and methane. These come from using gasoline for driving a car or coal for heating a building, for example. Clearing land and cutting down forests can also release carbon dioxide. Agriculture, oil and gas operations are major sources of methane emissions. Energy, industry, transport, buildings, agriculture and land use are among the main sectors causing greenhouse gases.

https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/what-is-climate-change

[Reg Volk]

when someone says "climate change" - I always respond - "are you talking about natural climate change, or the fake unproven theory that man is somehow affecting the climate?"  They always get mad.  I love it.

[Deluge]

24 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

when someone says "climate change" - I always respond - "are you talking about natural climate change, or the fake unproven theory that man is somehow affecting the climate?"  They always get mad.  I love it.

I'm not surprised they get mad - the perverts have been trying to merge normal climate change with their crazy definition of it since right around the time Emma Lazarus started stamping her feet for foreigners to come in and leech off the country. They do the same thing with immigration - illegal immigration is just immigration - it's ALL immigration. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Climate Change is a tool for elitist a$$holes to drive humanity into some dystopian corner where they can easily manipul -  

Oh, the d*ckheads are starting: 

YOUR ^OPINIONS mean NOTHING except that you're a partisan HACK.

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. Such shifts can be natural, due to changes in the sun’s activity or large volcanic eruptions. But since the 1800s, human activities have been the main driver of climate change, primarily due to the burning of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.

Burning fossil fuels generates greenhouse gas emissions that act like a blanket wrapped around the Earth, trapping the sun’s heat and raising temperatures.

The main greenhouse gases that are causing climate change include carbon dioxide and methane. These come from using gasoline for driving a car or coal for heating a building, for example. Clearing land and cutting down forests can also release carbon dioxide. Agriculture, oil and gas operations are major sources of methane emissions. Energy, industry, transport, buildings, agriculture and land use are among the main sectors causing greenhouse gases.

https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/what-is-climate-change

At least you posted the ^FACTS.

34 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

when someone says "climate change" - I always respond - "are you talking about natural climate change, or the fake unproven theory that man is somehow affecting the climate?"  They always get mad.  I love it.

Yeah, you LOVE LYING to people like you do here all the time. LMAO

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I'm not surprised they get mad - the perverts have been trying to merge normal climate change with their crazy definition of it since right around the time Emma Lazarus started stamping her feet for foreigners to come in and leech off the country. They do the same thing with immigration - illegal immigration is just immigration - it's ALL immigration. 

ALL you have is ^BULLSHIT as USUAL.

[Deluge]

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

YOUR ^OPINIONS mean NOTHING except that you're a partisan HACK.

At least you posted the ^FACTS.

"Climate change" is unhinged leftism. 

I posted left-wing propaganda which you, of course, lapped up like a stray dog. lol

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

ALL you have is ^BULLSHIT as USUAL.

I have the TRUTH.  

[Reg Volk]

To me the argument isn't whether the man-made climate change thing is real, its about what is to be done about it, if it is real.  Taxing the crap out of western society doesn't seem to have made much of a dent, though you know these climate crazies will just keep moving the goal posts, like they do with everything else.  If even one of these lunatics still pushing this climate fraud could quantify how spending $1 billion on "climate change prevention" resulted in how many fewer tornadoes or hurricanes, at least the common man would understand why money was being stolen out of his pocket.  But it's never about results, it's always about emotion and how horrible you are if you don't just go with every stupid thing these fools say.

Even Greta has moved on to hating Jews already.  She sees there is no money left in the man-made climate change grift anymore.  It's over baby.  Time to move on to the next insanely stupid far Left cause.  Like slashing and ripping the fabric on the DC reflecting pool.

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

To me the argument isn't whether the man-made climate change thing is real, its about what is to be done about it, if it is real.  Taxing the crap out of western society doesn't seem to have made much of a dent, though you know these climate crazies will just keep moving the goal posts, like they do with everything else.  If even one of these lunatics still pushing this climate fraud could quantify how spending $1 billion on "climate change prevention" resulted in how many fewer tornadoes or hurricanes, at least the common man would understand why money was being stolen out of his pocket.  But it's never about results, it's always about emotion and how horrible you are if you don't just go with every stupid thing these fools say.

Even Greta has moved on to hating Jews already.  She sees there is no money left in the man-made climate change grift anymore.  It's over baby.  Time to move on to the next insanely stupid far Left cause.  Like slashing and ripping the fabric on the DC reflecting pool.

I think you nailed it here.

[herbie]

What Is Climate Change?

Stupid people asking stupid questions

[Deluge]

7 minutes ago, herbie said:

What Is Climate Change?

Stupid people asking stupid questions

Climate change is stupid. I wish you leftoids would just stfu and give it a rest. 

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

fake unproven theory that man is somehow affecting the climate?" 

Why don't you test it for your self? You can model it using equipment found in any undergraduate physics lab. The results are predictable, measurable and repeatable. Physics doesn't care about politics. 

You clearly have grounds to pursue litigation against your physics prof because if he led you to believe the greenhouse effect is unproven, he lied to you and took your money under false pretences.

Edited Wednesday at 08:29 PM by Queenmandy85

[Reg Volk]

47 minutes ago, herbie said:

What Is Climate Change?

Stupid people asking stupid questions

Yup.  And even stupider people demanding others pay taxes in the name of "fighting" this fairy tale.

1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Why don't you test it for your self? You can model it using equipment found in any undegraduate physics lab. The results are predictable, measurable and repeatable. Physics doesn't care about politics. 

You clearly have grounds to pursue litigation against your physics prof because if he led you to believe the greenhouse effect is unproven, he lied to you and took your money under false pretences.

^^^
Just more babble-speak.  If its so quantifiable, then it should be easy to tell me how many tornadoes were prevented by the $100 I paid in carbon taxes last month.  If you can't do that, then everything else is meaningless in this discussion.

[Legato]

6 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Why don't you test it for your self? You can model it using equipment found in any undergraduate physics lab. The results are predictable, measurable and repeatable. Physics doesn't care about politics. 

You clearly have grounds to pursue litigation against your physics prof because if he led you to believe the greenhouse effect is unproven, he lied to you and took your money under false pretences.

Absolute BS, lab conditions and real world conditions are shall we say, world apart.

Try simulating entropy in a lab.

[herbie]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Climate change is stupid

You're not stupid, everything else is stupid, right?
OMG, makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein, Gomer Pyle look like Stephen Hawking

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

You're not stupid, everything else is stupid, right?
OMG, makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein, Gomer Pyle look like Stephen Hawking

What do you mean "everything else"? Cultists are the only ones who buy into that shit, so you've nothing to stand on. 

[Reg Volk]

Just when you thought that you didn't hate Leftist rags like The Guardian enough.  These fools still think that it's 2011 and people can be scared by random numbers without doing fact checks on their nonsense.  What a bunch of losers.

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

Absolute BS, lab conditions and real world conditions are shall we say, world apart.

Try simulating entropy in a lab.

So, are you saying that, despite the evidence, greehouse gases do not inhibit reradiation of energy? I would be interested in your sources.

 

2 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

the $100 I paid in carbon taxes last month.

The carbon tax is an attempt to get people to reduce their carbon emissions. The alternative is rationing, which is less effective and more expensive. What did you do to cause a $100 carbon tax payment for one month? 

It is nice to hear the country is finally starting the transition to nuclear power but it is something we should have done 50 years ago. 

 

[Reg Volk]

3 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So, are you saying that, despite the evidence, greehouse gases do not inhibit reradiation of energy? I would be interested in your sources.

 

The carbon tax is an attempt to get people to reduce their carbon emissions. The alternative is rationing, which is less effective and more expensive. What did you do to cause a $100 carbon tax payment for one month? 

It is nice to hear the country is finally starting the transition to nuclear power but it is something we should have done 50 years ago. 

 

I am saying that there may or may not be "evidence", but that's really irrelevant.  If everyone in Canada went and lived in caves, how many tornadoes would that stop?  What is the purpose of taxes, or "rationing", whatever that means?  What is the actual point?  If you can't answer that, then the only "alternative" is to pat the gullible climate kooks on the head, and tell them to go enjoy their soy latte.  That's about it.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

To me the argument isn't whether the man-made climate change thing is real, its about what is to be done about it, if it is real. 

Agreed. Everyone can accept the climates change, but despite asking a trillion times I have never seen anyone especially on this board present any evidence to answer the following questions:

1  is the climate change we're experiencing a crisis or just something we're going to have to adapt to over time

and 

2 if it is a serious situation or crisis, what is the most effective way of addressing it? Trying to reduce emissions or trying to adapt? How much emissions precisely will we have to reduce to lower this threat to 'serious' from 'crisis'? 

I note that in Canada we have the carbon tax which was supposed to eliminate emissions or at least return us to a much much earlier state which it did not or even come close to.

But what's really telling is that the government never expected it to in the end. One question the government admitted it did not have any targets for how much the carbon tax would reduce emissions. In other words they had zero expectations whatsoever they did not have the slightest idea of how much this would benefit the climate

Worse they didn't even set up a methodology for tracking it. Even if they didn't know how good it would be surely they should have been tracking to see if it was having any effect whatsoever and they did not. They have admitted this outright when asked

So we're supposed to believe that the government thinks this is some big serious risk when their primary solution not only didn't work but they never expected it to in the first place and they never tracked it. They certainly tracked the billions of dollars in tax money they made from it

This alone tells me that the liberals and the government did not think that climate change was a serious issue and was only using it to try and extort additional tax revenue and virtue signal

And if a left-leaning government that has all of the data and science available doesn't think this is serious why in god's name would anyone else?

[Queenmandy85]

35 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

What is the purpose of taxes, or "rationing", whatever that means?  What is the actual point?  If you can't answer that,

I can answer that. As the concentration ofcarbon increases in the atmosphere, less energy is re-rediated and the planet warms up. What is difference about this warming is it is happening much faster that previous events. It will become a self-generating process that we will be unable to stop. 

The remedy is to transition to nuclear power, and preserve our petroleum and coal resourses for future generations. Nuclear power, both unraium and thorium fuelled reactors, are a licence to print money in western Canada.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 12:09 AM by Queenmandy85

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

 

I disagree. Science has nothing to do with politics.

 

 

Well, it does though. 🤔

Science feeds the public sphere with information that needs discussion.  

[Goddess]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

1  is the climate change we're experiencing a crisis or just something we're going to have to adapt to over time

We'll adapt.  Like we always do.

[User]

All you need to know, to know what BS the climate change alarmism is from folks on the left here is to watch them cheer on China for their clean energy while ignoring their continued coal plant building and use of coal… cheer on choking their own countries with regulations and restrictions and ignore that they are just shipping the coal and industry to China instead.

 

Apparently “global” warming isn’t really global, if you ship all the emissions to China everything is magically better. 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So, are you saying that, despite the evidence, greehouse gases do not inhibit reradiation of energy? I would be interested in your sources.

 

The carbon tax is an attempt to get people to reduce their carbon emissions. The alternative is rationing, which is less effective and more expensive. What did you do to cause a $100 carbon tax payment for one month? 

It is nice to hear the country is finally starting the transition to nuclear power but it is something we should have done 50 years ago. 

 

The carbon atom radiates heat energy in all directions down, up, sideways etc. In a closed environment the behaviour is different than an open environment. I would be interested in your sources that say anything different.

[gatomontes99]

It was global cooling until summers got hot. Then it was global warming. Then people pointed out the winters were really cold. So now it is global climate change. 

Now, never mind that deserts used to be jungles and plains used to be oceans or glaciers were retreating before man ever walked the earth. Every change is a result of man and therefore these economy limiting taxes and regulations MUST be implemented or we will all die! You don't want us to DIE do you?!