Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Careful there...that is a very American idea.   Canadians protested "No Kings" against Trump...when in fact they very much do have a king.

Yes, but our King does not make policy, let alone make policy without accountability to our Parliament or other checks and balances.  Trump is exercising despot-like power in certain key areas.  In this regard our Constitutional Monarchy is serving the people relatively well.  

Edited November 6, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[paxamericana]

13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes, but our King does not make policy, let alone make policy without accountability to our Parliament or other checks and balances.  Trump is exercising despot-like power in certain key areas.  In this regard our Constitutional Monarchy is serving the people relatively well.  

Trump is not a King he is your Emperor. You cannot protest an emperor. Also Canada is a unincorporated American territory.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Bombing hospitals and buildings that collapsed onto civilians, depriving them of food and medicine — is that not Israel’s doing?

Nope, that would be Hamas. And illegally too, it is illegal and international law to use a facility like that for military purposes and if someone does it is acceptable to treat it like any other military target. And that is exactly what happened

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Trump is not a King he is your Emperor. You cannot protest an emperor. Also Canada is a unincorporated American territory.

You’d like that to be true.  Trump is in fact your leader, apparently somewhat unaccountable to the people and Constitution.  Well, we’ll see.

Canada for all its problems doesn’t have this particular problem.  Trudeau tried but was finally run out of town.  

Edited November 6, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[paxamericana]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

Trudeau tried but was finally run out of town.  

Oh it only took what, 10 years? 

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Oh it only took what, 10 years? 

Fair enough.  Trudeau damaged the country.

Edited November 6, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[bush_cheney2004]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes, but our King does not make policy, let alone make policy without accountability to our Parliament or other checks and balances.  Trump is exercising despot-like power in certain key areas.  In this regard our Constitutional Monarchy is serving the people relatively well.  

 

Well, there was that little trucker's protest thingy as I recall, but point taken.   Trump is exercising Executive Branch power, just like any other U.S. president.   Presidents do these things, because they can.

[Zeitgeist]

15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Well, there was that little trucker's protest thingy as I recall, but point taken.   Trump is exercising Executive Branch power, just like any other U.S. president.   Presidents do these things, because they can.

Well, the “national emergency” tariffs could be canceled by the Supreme Court, but Trump still has other options for imposing tariffs.  The sectoral tariffs on steel, aluminum, and autos are the biggest concern for Canada and fall outside the emergency category.  It’s nevertheless highly arguable that Trump has ignored trade agreements and has refused to involve Congress in these highly significant trade moves that function essentially as taxes on businesses and individuals.  Anyway, these matters have been debated.

Yes, Trudeau was the worst PM of the last half century, maybe in history.  Carney can’t unwind it all fast enough, and he’s too ideologically aligned to do much better than Trudeau.  That’s why Trump’s support of the Liberals is a peculiar strategy.  It tells me that Trump is more interested in self-preservation than conservatism.  I’d level the same criticism at Doug Ford.  They don’t want Poilievre because he might do a better job than they are.  Ford talks a good line and has been quite popular across political affiliations, but in substance Ontario has remained quite Liberal.  Trump is running America like a champagne socialist union boss, with heavy intervention in the economy through tariffs.  It’s interesting to analyze what politicians actually do and look at its political implications.

Edited November 6, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well, the “national emergency” tariffs could be canceled by the Supreme Court, but Trump still has other options for imposing tariffs.  The sectoral tariffs on steel, aluminum, and autos are the biggest concern for Canada and fall outside the emergency category.  

 

Yes, but tariffs have been imposed on such exports before, setting precedent regardless of any emergency.   Trump is not the first president to do so (vis-a-vis Canada).

 

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Yes, Trudeau was the worst PM of the last half century, maybe in history.  

 

Maybe, but John Turner was pretty bad too.

 

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Carney can’t unwind it all fast enough, and he’s too ideologically aligned to do much better than Trudeau.  That’s why Trump’s support of the Liberals is a peculiar strategy.  It tells me that Trump is more interested in self-preservation than conservatism.  

 

Even Americans know that the Liberals are the "natural ruling party" of Canada.  

[CdnFox]

So getting back to the original post, here's a wacky new theory:

The NDP would have been crazy to call an election. I think it was universally understood that they would find a way to bow out. They're broke they have no leader now it's not the time

 But, we just saw someone cross the floor. And the liberals are hinting they may have another two guys or willing to come across.

If that happens then the liberals have a majority government and it'll probably last 5 years. Which means the NDP gets to sit there with no official party status broke as hell and with no income for five long years

Or they can call an election now and spend every amount of energy they can trying to win five lousy more seats while ignoring all of the other ones and get their official party status.

Given what carney is done since being elected they might very well be able to make that happen. And even if Carney gets a majority as a result at least they're back to having decent funding and being a real party. They can rebuild from there

And there's an excellent chance it would just be another minority and they would have even more power. And nobody could say they were afraid to bring the liberals down this time.

Honestly, given the fact that we just saw one person cross the floor and they're suggesting there are others I would be damn tempted to pull that plug and work like hell to pick up those extra five seats

 

[Barquentine]

On 11/4/2025 at 5:21 PM, Legato said:

Why are you frightened of Poilievre?

Not frightened. But I wouldn't let a hospital orderly do brain surgery on me. PeePee's incompetent.

[Barquentine]

On 11/4/2025 at 3:32 PM, CdnFox said:

legendary

Legendary, a synonym for mythical, meaning something everyone's heard about, but no one has seen.

[Barquentine]

On 11/4/2025 at 11:29 AM, Nefarious Banana said:

You get an A+  . . . for 'Deflection'

No rebuttal for my points, then? D-

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Israel, the Great Harlot, is favored by conservatives and the Beast.

Yes well...let's do try to be grounded a bit.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Careful there...that is a very American idea.   Canadians protested "No Kings" against Trump...when in fact they very much do have a king.

Canada has been converted from a nice place to raise a family, to a dumpster fire of scared little beavers who collectively are currently allowing the POTUS to dictate our politics...and society.

Our immigration used to be rational. Now we have a massive tax burden supporting hundreds of thousands of "refugees" and "students". Several of our industries have been completely taken over by Indians. We waste our vast natural resources on notions of saving the world from carbon, while we impose huge taxes and regulations that stifle our national and personal wealth.

Hell we chased one of our most brilliant minds, Jordan Peterson,  to Florida because of some insane idea about pronouns and gender.

Indeed, Canada is now a self-destructive mob of irrational twits. All more concerned with virtue-signalling and willing to shoot ourselves to show just how much we can hate Trump.

[Gaétan]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Nope, that would be Hamas. And illegally too, it is illegal and international law to use a facility like that for military purposes and if someone does it is acceptable to treat it like any other military target. And that is exactly what happened

Some conservative factions appear willing to downplay or ignore crimes against humanity when doing so aligns with their geopolitical or financial interests. This moral compromise, often masked as strategic diplomacy, raises serious ethical concerns about the integrity of their principles

[Legato]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Not frightened. But I wouldn't let a hospital orderly do brain surgery on me. PeePee's incompetent.

Why are you frightened of Poilievre?

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Legendary, a synonym for mythical, meaning something everyone's heard about, but no one has seen.

LOL so you couldn't disagree with what i said, so you came up with something i  DIDN'T say and tried to argue with that  

Well at least you're not pretending i wasn't right in the first place. 

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 

Well at least you're not pretending i wasn't right in the first place. 

Ooops...you LOSE again LOSER    I am not pretending you weren't right and guess what...you LOSE LOL LOL LOL

Bloc, NDP to vote with Liberals in first of three confidence budget votes

https://nationalpost.com/news/bloc-ndp-to-vote-with-liberals-in-first-of-three-confidence-budget-votes

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ooops...you LOSE again LOSER    I am not pretending you weren't right and guess what...you LOSE LOL LOL LOL

Bloc, NDP to vote with Liberals in first of three confidence budget votes

https://nationalpost.com/news/bloc-ndp-to-vote-with-liberals-in-first-of-three-confidence-budget-votes

Uhhh.... that's not what we were talking about  LOLOL

You got confused and forgot what the discussion was didn't you    ROFLMAO!!!!!

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Uhhh.... that's not what we were talking about  LOLOL

You got confused and forgot what the discussion was didn't you    ROFLMAO!!!!!

Nope, just gotta remind you that your BS is , well BS , ...again.

The budget passed and they Libs will stay in power and conservatives are bailing out of the party. and their leader LOL

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope, just gotta remind you that your BS is , well BS , ...again.

 

Oh so that thing we weren't talking about and the things i never said about the thing we weren't talking about is bs  LOLOLOL    

I suppose imaginary conversations with me are the only ones you can win 😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂

My god that's funny   One of the things i love about having you around is that no matter how stupid you look, you're never afraid to roll up your sleeves and be even MORE stupid  LOLOLOL

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Oh so that thing we weren't talking about and the things i never said about the thing we weren't talking about is bs  LOLOLOL    

I suppose imaginary conversations with me are the only ones you can win 😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂

My god that's funny   One of the things i love about having you around is that no matter how stupid you look, you're never afraid to roll up your sleeves and be even MORE stupid  LOLOLOL

OH NO!!!! The LOSER tries to speak.... HA HA HA

Insults and name calling is the only thing you know how to do.  Typicalo f a LOSER like you LOL LOL LOL

On 11/6/2025 at 10:54 AM, Legato said:

Why are you frightened of Poilievre?

??? Of PP Le Pew??? LOL LOL LOL

[taxme]

On 10/21/2025 at 4:54 PM, blackbird said:

Both the Conservatives and the Bloc are warning the government that they have certain demands for the Liberal's budget coming out in early November.  If these demands are not met, there is a possibility that the budget would be defeated which means the government falls and an election must be held.

This could be good news if the Conservatives win.  The Conservatives may abandon the no more pipelines law, the tanker ban, and other things that are keeping Canada from building a pipeline to the BC north coast and from becoming an energy superpower.  More pipelines could bring in billions of dollars to help fight the federal deficit and have more money for various government priorities.  It could create thousands of jobs for Canadians.  Carney is not willing to do it.  Carney could save his government if he would agree to some central Conservative demands such as making Canada an energy superpower and keeping the deficit down, but I don't see any sign of it happening.

Liberals 'worry' over potential election after Bloc, Conservative budget demands

 

It is starting to look more like it is the conservatives that will be falling. I just heard that another conservative MP has decided to retire from politics. His excuse is like every other politicians excuse and that is to say that the reason why they want to retire from politics is that they want to spend more time with their family. Same old, same old story. It is not looking to good for the conservative party these days. 

All i can say here that if Carnage gets himself a majority government, than Canada and Canadians are in big time serious trouble. I can see now that the WEF Zionist globalists billionaires are starting to rub their grubby and greedy lefty hands with glee. Then we better hope that Alberta separates from Canada. If Alberta does not separate soon it could be too late for them. Albertans may find themselves stuck in a WEF Zionist globalist Marxist world with nowhere to run, except to maybe cross over the border line and ask for asylum in America. Canada will truly become a 3rd world communist hell hole. Just my opinion of course. 😇

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 11/5/2025 at 8:56 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Careful there...that is a very American idea.   Canadians protested "No Kings" against Trump...when in fact they very much do have a king.

We don’t have the type of king that No Kings refers to, something closer to this guy:

https://www.icij.org/investigations/swazi-secrets/in-eswatini-africas-last-absolute-monarchy-bucolic-landscapes-belie-a-darker-underbelly/

We have a constitutional monarchy in which the King has a ceremonial role. Also note that we didn’t make the elementary and potentially dangerous mistake of combining head of state with head of government.