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1 hour ago, dialamah said:

As usual, @Goddessof misinformation posts something that tells only part of the story, and interprets it to fit her preconceived notions. 

We don't know what led up to this confrontation, but we can see that the flag and his personal belongs were taken and that he was searched - looked like they were getting ready to handcuff him, not clear if they did.  There were plenty of flag-carrying people there, not being bothered - so a sane person would conclude this situation had nothing to do with the flag.  

Also, please go live in a third world country for a while, then tell us how much like that Canada is.

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32 minutes ago, West said:

the poor kid was arrested for carrying a Canadian flag

This is what thinking without a shred of effort put into self-critical regulation looks like.

Above all else the main purpose of a BS filter is for your own mind.  Failing to use it properly or give it regular maintenance is sure to cause you grief.

 

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14 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's only around 2.4 million Canadians who refuse to get with the program.  Screw every last one of them.

People should have the basic human right to decide what medicine is injected into their bloodstreams and that of their children.  If we're not in an emergency situation then this should remain a decision between a person and their doctors.

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4 hours ago, dialamah said:

We don't know what led up to this confrontation, but we can see that the flag and his personal belongs were taken and that he was searched - looked like they were getting ready to handcuff him, not clear if they did.  There were plenty of flag-carrying people there, not being bothered - so a sane person would conclude this situation had nothing to do with the flag. 

Exactly.  You can't make a conclusion about a police interaction that doesn't show the leadup to the interaction.

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1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

People should have the basic human right to decide what medicine is injected into their bloodstreams and that of their children.

They always did.

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If we're not in an emergency situation then this should remain a decision between a person and their doctors.

There's the rub.

And even despite the fact we were in an actual emergency there is still not one single case of anyone being strapped to a gurney and having a needle stuck in them against their will.  Let me repeat that - not a single one.

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4 minutes ago, West said:

People shouldn't be coerced, bribed or manipulated into a medicine. That's highly unethical. Then again you know nothing about ethics

Of course they should be as a last recourse. It would unethical to not use these means when all else has failed.  And when they fail...

 

 

 

And that's why we still have a couple of million un-vaccinated Canadians amongst us.  It just is what it is. 

 

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6 minutes ago, West said:

At least 20% of the population was coerced into a vaccine whether through threats against their job or quality of life. 

Bullshit.

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The fact you support such tactics shows how sick of an individual you are

No, as far as I know never caught COVID at all.

In any case...

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It Turns Out Paying People to Take the Covid-19 Vaccine Doesn’t Really Work

https://www.wsj.com/articles/it-turns-out-paying-people-to-take-the-covid-19-vaccine-doesnt-really-work-11635205763

 

 

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14 hours ago, Goddess said:

Maybe it's because people are getting violently arrested for carrying a Canadian flag?

 

 

 

 

The PPS (Parliamentary Police Service) only have jurisdiction on the grounds of parliament.

Bottom line is, there were few people there and there will always be a few confronting the police.

Here is a video of the whole thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2iFj8Pekc

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12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

People should have the basic human right to decide what medicine is injected into their bloodstreams and that of their children.  If we're not in an emergency situation then this should remain a decision between a person and their doctors.

This is a sensible argument to make.  If you want to stick to this line of reasoning, and argue its pros an cons, nobody should call you stupid for that.  This ends up being a matter of perspective and personal opinion on which we can disagree.  Debating how dangerous COVID is and how much of an emergency it constitutes, and whether the mandates and lockdowns were justified doesn't require mental gymnastics. 

Where it falls apart is when we start talking about COVID being no worse than the flu, or a hoax altogether.  When folks start to argue about whether or not the vaccines work, or whether mandates = totalitarianism and the end of democracy, now we're descending into nonsense.  

 

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47 minutes ago, West said:

The vaxx rate was 70% before they started coercing and manipulating people into a vaccine. 

You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. Being vaccinated has been a term of employment in many sectors for decades.  If you recall front line health workers were amongst the first to be getting vaccinated and I'm pretty sure there was trouble with a few hesitant/anti types long before you started freaking out.

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15 hours ago, eyeball said:

They always did.

There's the rub.

And even despite the fact we were in an actual emergency there is still not one single case of anyone being strapped to a gurney and having a needle stuck in them against their will.  Let me repeat that - not a single one.

Yeah they'll just threaten to take away their livelihood.  No coercion happening there.

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. Being vaccinated has been a term of employment in many sectors for decades.  If you recall front line health workers were amongst the first to be getting vaccinated and I'm pretty sure there was trouble with a few hesitant/anti types long before you started freaking out.

If you're working with vulnerable people like in a hospital or long term care home, requiring vaccines makes some sense.  Otherwise they can bugger off.  The only employer I know that has required covid  vaccines outside these sectors among the regular workforce is the federal government.  Because they are tyrants, and hypocrites about control over ones body (abortion).

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. Being vaccinated has been a term of employment in many sectors for decades.  If you recall front line health workers were amongst the first to be getting vaccinated and I'm pretty sure there was trouble with a few hesitant/anti types long before you started freaking out.

I don't ever recall vaccines being a term of employment in sectors where it doesn't apply more than any other.   But the federal government required all public servants to get jabbed even if they were working from home full time, and required truckers even though they mostly worked alone isolated in a truck cab all day.

Tyrants.

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1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

If you're working with vulnerable people like in a hospital or long term care home, requiring vaccines makes some sense.  Otherwise they can bugger off.  The only employer I know that has required covid  vaccines outside these sectors among the regular workforce is the federal government.  Because they are tyrants, and hypocrites about control over ones body (abortion).

You have never heard of any business, or provincial government, having a vaccine mandate?  Is it maybe because you’ve never looked?   
 

All the large Canadian banks had a vaccine mandate  

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/vaccination-mandates-employees-rights-1.6142584

 

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1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

You have never heard of any business, or provincial government, having a vaccine mandate?  Is it maybe because you’ve never looked?   
 

All the large Canadian banks had a vaccine mandate  

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/vaccination-mandates-employees-rights-1.6142584

 

Well there you go.  More tyrants trying to control people's bodies and health decisions. Disgusting.

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6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

If you're working with vulnerable people like in a hospital or long term care home, requiring vaccines makes some sense.  Otherwise they can bugger off.  The only employer I know that has required covid  vaccines outside these sectors among the regular workforce is the federal government.  Because they are tyrants, and hypocrites about control over ones body (abortion).

 The abortion comparison is goofy.  Pregnancies aren't contagious.  

In the context of a public health crisis, the vaccine requirements made sense and legal challenges (particularly pre-vaccine availability) were resoundingly rejected across the country.  Those were not government decisions either.  Those were decisions made by the Courts.  

 

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