Goddess Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, dialamah said: As usual, @Goddessof misinformation posts something that tells only part of the story, and interprets it to fit her preconceived notions. We don't know what led up to this confrontation, but we can see that the flag and his personal belongs were taken and that he was searched - looked like they were getting ready to handcuff him, not clear if they did. There were plenty of flag-carrying people there, not being bothered - so a sane person would conclude this situation had nothing to do with the flag. Also, please go live in a third world country for a while, then tell us how much like that Canada is. 2 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
dialamah Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, Goddess said: Doesn't explain the BS Twitter link you posted. Care to address that? 1 1 1 Quote
Goddess Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, dialamah said: Doesn't explain the BS Twitter link you posted. Care to address that? ?Hi Dialamah ? I'm heading over to the War in Ukraine thread now. Just letting you know so you don't have to go searching all over the board for me. ? 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Michael Hardner Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, dialamah said: Doesn't explain the BS Twitter link you posted. Care to address that? I mean really.... they sat on Parliament Hill for weeks and nothing was done... Nazis? Come on people... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Goddess Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 ? Hi Dialamah ? Now I'm going to the Canada's Military thread. I like reading Army Guy's thoughts. See ya over there! 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, West said: the poor kid was arrested for carrying a Canadian flag This is what thinking without a shred of effort put into self-critical regulation looks like. Above all else the main purpose of a BS filter is for your own mind. Failing to use it properly or give it regular maintenance is sure to cause you grief. 2 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 14 hours ago, eyeball said: It's only around 2.4 million Canadians who refuse to get with the program. Screw every last one of them. People should have the basic human right to decide what medicine is injected into their bloodstreams and that of their children. If we're not in an emergency situation then this should remain a decision between a person and their doctors. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, dialamah said: We don't know what led up to this confrontation, but we can see that the flag and his personal belongs were taken and that he was searched - looked like they were getting ready to handcuff him, not clear if they did. There were plenty of flag-carrying people there, not being bothered - so a sane person would conclude this situation had nothing to do with the flag. Exactly. You can't make a conclusion about a police interaction that doesn't show the leadup to the interaction. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, West said: There was no disinformation.. the poor kid was arrested for carrying a Canadian flag by the far left stasi who hate our country What is your evidence for this? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
eyeball Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: People should have the basic human right to decide what medicine is injected into their bloodstreams and that of their children. They always did. Quote If we're not in an emergency situation then this should remain a decision between a person and their doctors. There's the rub. And even despite the fact we were in an actual emergency there is still not one single case of anyone being strapped to a gurney and having a needle stuck in them against their will. Let me repeat that - not a single one. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, West said: People shouldn't be coerced, bribed or manipulated into a medicine. That's highly unethical. Then again you know nothing about ethics Of course they should be as a last recourse. It would unethical to not use these means when all else has failed. And when they fail... And that's why we still have a couple of million un-vaccinated Canadians amongst us. It just is what it is. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, West said: At least 20% of the population was coerced into a vaccine whether through threats against their job or quality of life. Bullshit. Quote The fact you support such tactics shows how sick of an individual you are No, as far as I know never caught COVID at all. In any case... Quote It Turns Out Paying People to Take the Covid-19 Vaccine Doesn’t Really Work https://www.wsj.com/articles/it-turns-out-paying-people-to-take-the-covid-19-vaccine-doesnt-really-work-11635205763 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Infidel Dog Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, eyeball said: And that's why we still have a couple of million un-vaccinated Canadians amongst us. It just is what it is. You forgot the word 'Proud' between million and unvaccinated. Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Goddess said: Maybe it's because people are getting violently arrested for carrying a Canadian flag? The PPS (Parliamentary Police Service) only have jurisdiction on the grounds of parliament. Bottom line is, there were few people there and there will always be a few confronting the police. Here is a video of the whole thing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2iFj8Pekc Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Contrarian said: Was Pat King at the rally? He can't, by court order. All of the leaders were ordered to stay away from any trucker events and even associating with each other.. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Moonbox Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: People should have the basic human right to decide what medicine is injected into their bloodstreams and that of their children. If we're not in an emergency situation then this should remain a decision between a person and their doctors. This is a sensible argument to make. If you want to stick to this line of reasoning, and argue its pros an cons, nobody should call you stupid for that. This ends up being a matter of perspective and personal opinion on which we can disagree. Debating how dangerous COVID is and how much of an emergency it constitutes, and whether the mandates and lockdowns were justified doesn't require mental gymnastics. Where it falls apart is when we start talking about COVID being no worse than the flu, or a hoax altogether. When folks start to argue about whether or not the vaccines work, or whether mandates = totalitarianism and the end of democracy, now we're descending into nonsense. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Legato Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 12 hours ago, eyeball said: Bullshit. No, as far as I know never caught COVID at all. In any case... The Yellow Brick road is from a fairy tale. Quote
eyeball Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, West said: The vaxx rate was 70% before they started coercing and manipulating people into a vaccine. You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. Being vaccinated has been a term of employment in many sectors for decades. If you recall front line health workers were amongst the first to be getting vaccinated and I'm pretty sure there was trouble with a few hesitant/anti types long before you started freaking out. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 15 hours ago, eyeball said: They always did. There's the rub. And even despite the fact we were in an actual emergency there is still not one single case of anyone being strapped to a gurney and having a needle stuck in them against their will. Let me repeat that - not a single one. Yeah they'll just threaten to take away their livelihood. No coercion happening there. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, eyeball said: You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. Being vaccinated has been a term of employment in many sectors for decades. If you recall front line health workers were amongst the first to be getting vaccinated and I'm pretty sure there was trouble with a few hesitant/anti types long before you started freaking out. If you're working with vulnerable people like in a hospital or long term care home, requiring vaccines makes some sense. Otherwise they can bugger off. The only employer I know that has required covid vaccines outside these sectors among the regular workforce is the federal government. Because they are tyrants, and hypocrites about control over ones body (abortion). Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, eyeball said: You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. Being vaccinated has been a term of employment in many sectors for decades. If you recall front line health workers were amongst the first to be getting vaccinated and I'm pretty sure there was trouble with a few hesitant/anti types long before you started freaking out. I don't ever recall vaccines being a term of employment in sectors where it doesn't apply more than any other. But the federal government required all public servants to get jabbed even if they were working from home full time, and required truckers even though they mostly worked alone isolated in a truck cab all day. Tyrants. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
TreeBeard Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: If you're working with vulnerable people like in a hospital or long term care home, requiring vaccines makes some sense. Otherwise they can bugger off. The only employer I know that has required covid vaccines outside these sectors among the regular workforce is the federal government. Because they are tyrants, and hypocrites about control over ones body (abortion). You have never heard of any business, or provincial government, having a vaccine mandate? Is it maybe because you’ve never looked? All the large Canadian banks had a vaccine mandate https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/vaccination-mandates-employees-rights-1.6142584 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: You have never heard of any business, or provincial government, having a vaccine mandate? Is it maybe because you’ve never looked? All the large Canadian banks had a vaccine mandate https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/vaccination-mandates-employees-rights-1.6142584 Well there you go. More tyrants trying to control people's bodies and health decisions. Disgusting. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonbox Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: If you're working with vulnerable people like in a hospital or long term care home, requiring vaccines makes some sense. Otherwise they can bugger off. The only employer I know that has required covid vaccines outside these sectors among the regular workforce is the federal government. Because they are tyrants, and hypocrites about control over ones body (abortion). The abortion comparison is goofy. Pregnancies aren't contagious. In the context of a public health crisis, the vaccine requirements made sense and legal challenges (particularly pre-vaccine availability) were resoundingly rejected across the country. Those were not government decisions either. Those were decisions made by the Courts. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
TreeBeard Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: Well there you go. More tyrants trying to control people's bodies and health decisions. Disgusting. Luckily, they were temporary measures. Extreme? Absolutely. But, we’re all the better for it, even the free-dumb people. Quote
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