ExFlyer Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: His point was that it required courage and strength to really make a stand, yet it was a critically important stance. Most people simply couldn’t afford the risk or were too scared to make the sacrifice. I do think if it wasn’t for the protests we’d see more government controls in place. Imprisoning the population and using surveillance and police to maintain it is an ancient form of oppression, but our technology and digital economy have brought new dystopian possibilities to totalitarianism. No, it required laziness and having nothing to do but to hang around for 3+ weeks drinking and partying. The news crews (not all Canadian) asked a number of people what they were there for and the answers were like a comedy show. Most had no idea of the original intent (which had merit but was quickly lost). The fact is, the only place that still speaks about it, court cases notwithstanding, is here, on this forum and by the few "beliebers" on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: No, it required laziness and having nothing to do but to hang around for 3+ weeks drinking and partying. The news crews (not all Canadian) asked a number of people what they were there for and the answers were like a comedy show. Most had no idea of the original intent (which had merit but was quickly lost). The fact is, the only place that still speaks about it, court cases notwithstanding, is here, on this forum and by the few "beliebers" on this forum. Totally disagree. The Convoy was an internationally significant event that forced governments to back off of mandates and restrictions. If you don’t see that, I can’t help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Totally disagree. The Convoy was an internationally significant event that forced governments to back off of mandates and restrictions. If you don’t see that, I can’t help you. Your have a right to disagree but fact is it is so long gone that one on cares any more (except by those awaiting court dates and a few here). Be real about the mandates eh? They were reduced (by the provinces) and by the feds when they saw fit. The travel ones are just being dropped now (7 months after the convoy). The convoy did nothing to speed up the lifting of restrictions. You are dreaming if you think they did LOL Edited September 24, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Imprisoning the population and using surveillance and police to maintain it is an ancient form of oppression, but our technology and digital economy have brought new dystopian possibilities to totalitarianism. This technology has also brought the possibility of making totalitarianism impossible, all we need to do is turn the Telescreens around. Quote “The moral to be drawn from this dangerous nightmare situation is a simple one. Don't let it happen. It depends on you.” George Orwell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 8 hours ago, ExFlyer said: So,the tens of thousands of truckers that kept working and did not play in the convoy fiasco pool are "wimps and losers"? Yup, your argument gets more and more feeble and insulting to working Canadians every time you post. Sad, so sad you need to insult hard working Canadian truckers. This was a battle for rights and freedoms for all Canadians. Those convoy truckers lost plenty of money also. It would have been okay the other truckers had of joined the protest by staying away from work for at least two weeks. That would have helped out tremendously. But it is too late now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, taxme said: This was a battle for rights and freedoms for all Canadians. Those convoy truckers lost plenty of money also. It would have been okay the other truckers had of joined the protest by staying away from work for at least two weeks. That would have helped out tremendously. But it is too late now. May very well have been but it became dog and pony show that was not acceptable to the Ottawa public. They got an injunction and the protesters at that point made a choice, unfortunate the wrong one. I dare say that of the ones that occupied the streets, very very few we actual truckers. Lots of hangar ons. Even the organizers were not truckers. And, real truckers were not there. So, in the end, they were not glorified but vilified by the public at large. Yes, there were supporters but, they were small in number and belligerent and that did not endear them to the public. Hence, it has become a blip in the year of regular and numerous protests and events in Ottawa and no one (with a few exceptions) really give a rats ass about the "truckers convoy" anymore. It could have been a very useful and important protest but a few clowns screwed the purpose and intent. This is not to start or continue and argument. This is my take on it (I live in Ottawa) . The only place I see or hear or read anything about the convoy is here, on this forum. Only when one of the organizers is going to court or gets extension to court dates is there any mention. Edited September 25, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 They exposed Mr. Trudeau as a shit heel. Good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: His point was that it required courage and strength to really make a stand, yet it was a critically important stance. Most people simply couldn’t afford the risk or were too scared to make the sacrifice. I do think if it wasn’t for the protests we’d see more government controls in place. Imprisoning the population and using surveillance and police to maintain it is an ancient form of oppression, but our technology and digital economy have brought new dystopian possibilities to totalitarianism. It's very frightening to see your own government being able to freeze ones bank account or credit cards. This is what they do in communist China. It's called the social credit score system, and if someone upsets the government in any manner, their bank accounts could/would be frozen. We are entering dangerous territory here in Canada. If the government can freeze bank accounts what else will they do to anyone that they do not agree with? This Marxist thug in Ottawa needs to be arrested, charged and thrown into some gulag for his crimes against Canadians and crimes against humanity. Those truckers were the real hero's here who risked everything to do what they did. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Sadly surveillance was already underway with Facebook. Creepy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: They exposed Mr. Trudeau as a shit heel. Good enough for me. Your guys didn't have that figured out until COVID? Christ on a stick...it's no wonder you're such a bunch of frickin' losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Sadly surveillance was already underway with Facebook. Creepy stuff. Surveillance of Facebook? Creepy? Don't you think that people that post on Facebook and other social media are doing it to be noticed and are susceptible to be seen and read by all ? Social media is not private and if you say or do something stupid and illegal on them, you will be either reported or caught. You use social media and you are now public. Edited September 25, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Surveillance of Facebook? Creepy? Don't you think that people that post on Facebook and other social media are doing it to be noticed and are susceptible to be seen and read by all ? Social media is not private and if you say or do something stupid and illegal on them, you will be either reported or caught. You use social media and you are now public. The FBI literally gave Zuckerberg an award. They basically turn everything over to the FBI. What’s more, Zuckerberg is trying to profit off locking everyone down through Meta. You get a virtual office and an avatar so you can sit in front of a computer and live your life apart from the other biohazards and carbon footprints. He also wants education in this format. Stop exercising, watch a screen, stay away from humans, take pharmaceuticals to cope, and die. Edited September 25, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Stop exercising, watch a screen, stay away from humans, take pharmaceuticals to cope, and die. well, I get plenty of exercise at work, lifting steel all day the screen is the only place I can connect with like minded fellow travellers like you I don't go to the pubs to meet humans anymore, since you can't smoke there in this nanny police state I'm getting old now, the arthritis is in my hands & knees, so I do pop some painkillers to work, I'll admit I'm not on Facebook tho, I only come here to post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: well, I get plenty of exercise at work, lifting steel all day the screen is the only place I can connect with like minded fellow travellers like you I don't go to the pubs to meet humans anymore, since you can't smoke there in this nanny police state I'm getting old now, the arthritis is in my hands & knees, so I do pop some painkillers to work, I'll admit I'm not on Facebook tho, I only come here to post I hear you, but we have to get out and join the land of the living, rub elbows with a variety of folks and opinions, and be in nature for restoration. The computer only takes us so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I hear you, but we have to get out and join the land of the living, rub elbows with a variety of folks and opinions, and be in nature for restoration. The computer only takes us so far. I mostly just hang out with my wife in the backyard, playing with the dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: The FBI literally gave Zuckerberg an award. They basically turn everything over to the FBI. What’s more, Zuckerberg is trying to profit off locking everyone down through Meta. You get a virtual office and an avatar so you can sit in front of a computer and live your life apart from the other biohazards and carbon footprints. He also wants education in this format. Stop exercising, watch a screen, stay away from humans, take pharmaceuticals to cope, and die. Do not ever take off that tinfoil hat LOL Look, Facebook and social media in general is an open book Anyone and every one can find things about you and if you have some computer and maybe programming smarts, you get more. You can complain all you want about Zuckerberg (most is untrue) and Facebook but the fact is that people are using it on their own free will. Zuckerberg is a business man, he sees what people are doing, offers stuff and they eat it up. Can't blame him for giving folks what they want. As the great man once said, "There is a Zucker born every minute" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: I hear you oi, look at what it says on the DeSantis podium yeehaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: oi, look at what it says on the DeSantis podium yeehaw Yeah, here it is. He supports Canadian truckers protest but... NIMBY..... LOL "If such a protest took place in Florida, the protesters would be removed and charged in violation of Florida’s new “Combating Public Disorder” law, HB 1. Among its many definitions of public disorder, the law prohibits: • Willfully obstructing the free, convenient and normal use of a public street, highway or road by impeding, hindering, stifling, retarding, or restraining traffic or passage by standing on or remaining in the street, highway, or road." Hee Haw LOL https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/opinion/2022/02/12/desantis-against-florida-protests-but-backs-canadian-truckers/6724606001/ Edited September 25, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah, here it is. He supports Canadian truckers protest but... NIMBY..... LOL "If such a protest took place in Florida, the protesters would be removed and charged in violation of Florida’s new “Combating Public Disorder” law, HB 1. Among its many definitions of public disorder, the law prohibits: • Willfully obstructing the free, convenient and normal use of a public street, highway or road by impeding, hindering, stifling, retarding, or restraining traffic or passage by standing on or remaining in the street, highway, or road." Hee Haw LOL https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/opinion/2022/02/12/desantis-against-florida-protests-but-backs-canadian-truckers/6724606001/ DeSantis should definitely crack down on protesters in Florida because those will be Democrats support the Canadian freedom movement crush the Democrat traitors to the republic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: DeSantis should definitely crack down on protesters in Florida because those will be Democrats support the Canadian freedom movement crush the Democrat traitors to the republic Chuckle.... support truckers as long as they don't come to my house LOL Weren't the truckers conservatives?? DeSantis is a farce. On his knees in front of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Weren't the truckers conservatives?? I don't think they were particularly conservative on the aggregate seemed to be a coalition of conservatives & liberals against the extreme government overreach of Trudeau I would say that most of them would have been Liberals in the past probably, Chretien Liberals Trudeau has simply taken the party so far to the lunatic left, that he is leaving the centre wide open 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 6:03 PM, eyeball said: Your guys didn't have that figured out until COVID? Christ on a stick...it's no wonder you're such a bunch of frickin' losers. Yes, we still have a shred of decency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Trudeau, convoy leaders expected to testify at inquiry into use of Emergencies Act "The public inquiry into the federal government’s unprecedented use of the Emergencies Act during 'Freedom Convoy' protests last winter begins on Thursday, Oct. 13 and dozens of witnesses, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and high-profile convoy organizers, are expected to testify. https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/trudeau-convoy-leaders-expected-to-testify-at-inquiry-into-use-of-emergencies-act-5934565?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=AutoPilot Edited October 10, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 Five things to know as the Emergencies Act public inquiry gets underway The inquiry into the federal government’s unprecedented use of the Emergencies Act during 'Freedom Convoy' protests last winter will start public hearings on Thursday. Here are five things to know about it: https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/five-things-to-know-as-the-emergencies-act-public-inquiry-gets-underway-5934890?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=AutoPilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 17 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Five things to know as the Emergencies Act public inquiry gets underway The inquiry into the federal government’s unprecedented use of the Emergencies Act during 'Freedom Convoy' protests last winter will start public hearings on Thursday. Here are five things to know about it: https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/five-things-to-know-as-the-emergencies-act-public-inquiry-gets-underway-5934890?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=AutoPilot Here are the main takeaways from the article, actually: 1. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau named Ontario Appeal Court Justice Paul Rouleau as the inquiry’s commissioner. 2. Over the summer, individuals and groups could apply for standing in the inquiry, and Rouleau determined the final list. 3. The commission’s public hearings are expected to last six weeks, ending on Nov. 25. In other words, Trudeau's own hand-picked judge will steer the process, and it will be done hastily. The term 'politically expedient' comes to mind... Quote expedient (ɪkspiːdiənt )Explore 'expedient' in the dictionary ADJECTIVE If it is expedient to do something, it is useful or convenient to do it, even though it may not be morally right. [...] DING DING DING!!!!! That suits Trudeau almost perfectly! The only improvement would be if it ended with "even though it is morally atrocious." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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