WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Is that all you got? I posted your quote supporting Zelensky, that's basically all there is to this conversation. You can weasel and whine all you want, but the fact remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, eyeball said: His inaction speaks loudest. As I said, not a single shot was been fired in our country's subjugation or capitulation. You don't understad the difference between "support", which you wrongfully claimed, and "not taking violent action", which would do more harm than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You don't understad the difference between "support", which you wrongfully claimed, and "not taking violent action", which would do more harm than good. I never used the word support so **** off with your bullshit lying semantics. Did Churchill say take no action, no that was Chamberlain. Go ask DOP, he knows what needs to be done when it came to Nazis and commies - or least he used to. Edited September 22, 2022 by eyeball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I posted your quote supporting Zelensky, that's basically all there is to this conversation. You can weasel and whine all you want, but the fact remains. Chuckle. Never defended zelensky and there is oo such post. Nice try though. Another pile of BS you are slinging. Typical of you. Edited September 22, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 13 hours ago, eyeball said: I never used the word support so **** off with your bullshit lying semantics. Did Churchill say take no action, no that was Chamberlain. Go ask DOP, he knows what needs to be done when it came to Nazis and commies - or least he used to. You said "acceptance", whatever. Accepting Nazis is pretty close to supporting them, but I'll give you part marks. You need some after your pathetic attempt to cry "base rate fallacy" lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You said "acceptance", whatever. Accepting Nazis is pretty close to supporting them, but I'll give you part marks. Not doing anything about it in light of decades of crying doom is capitulation. 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You need some after your pathetic attempt to cry "base rate fallacy" lol No that was Scientific Americans brilliant success at explaining people's inability to understand what the death and sickness statistics actually mean. It's only pathetic if you accept/support the presumption you know what you're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Not doing anything about it in light of decades of crying doom is capitulation. No that was Scientific Americans brilliant success at explaining people's inability to understand what the death and sickness statistics actually mean. It's only pathetic if you accept/support the presumption you know what you're talking about. OMG, so you're just acknowledging that you don't understand percentages. Scientific American's article, and your vaunted new catchphrase 'base rate fallacy', would have applied if I was saying "There are twice as many covid deaths among the vaxed, that's proof that the vax doesn't work!" and you came back with "Nearly 6x as many people are vaxed, so the number of deaths are way out of proportion to the number of unvaxed! You just belched out a base rate fallacy, magnificent one! I finally got one up on you!!!" Here's the thing though, there are 5.666 times as many covid deaths among the multi-vaxxed and there are 5.666 times as many multi-vaxxed people. Do you get it? 85% vaxed and 85% of our deaths are among the vaxed. It's the exact same thing that you'd expect if you gave 85% of the people a Pflacebo. They die at the exact same rate as the unvaxed. SIMPLE MATH. VERY, VERY SIMPLE percentages. Yet you still don't even understand it after having it explained to you twice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 12 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Chuckle. Never defended zelensky and there is oo such post. Nice try though. Another pile of BS you are slinging. Typical of you. I already cited where you defended Zelensky's fascist control of the media and his jailing of opposition members of the gov't. He also has Nazis in his army and that doesn't even phase you. You're his useful idiot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: They die at the exact same rate as the unvaxed. No they don't. The unvaccinated die at the rate of 1.71 per 100000 people and the vaccinated only die at the rate of 0.1 per 100000 people. Perhaps you're confused because you believe the numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated are equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, eyeball said: No they don't. The unvaccinated die at the rate of 1.71 per 100000 people and the vaccinated only die at the rate of 0.1 per 100000 people. Perhaps you're confused because you believe the numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated are equal. Perhaps you can't read. Or interpret graphs with actual numbers printed right on them. 85% of the Canadians dying from covid are multi-vaxed. I don't give a shit what is theoretically happening in the United States, where we don't have access to any actual stats. I care about my country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 85% of the Canadians dying from covid are multi-vaxed. That's right, and they are dying at a fraction of the rate at which unvaccinated Canadians are dying when they have COVID. Edited September 23, 2022 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, eyeball said: That's right, and they are dying at a fraction of the rate at which unvaccinated Canadians are dying when they have COVID. I know that might make sense to you, but even if what you said was true, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the vaccines. It means that while 85% are M-vaxed and 15% are unvaxed, and they die in the exact same proportion (just like I said) BUT.... far fewer unvaxed get covid to begin with, but the ones that do get infected die at a higher rate. In other words, more M-vaxed people get covid, but a lower percentage of them die, so in the end the death rate is the same for both groups. Is that somehow better? My advice to you is - don't take your show on the road in an attempt to become a vax spokesperson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I know that might make sense to you, but even if what you said was true, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the vaccines. It means that while 85% are M-vaxed and 15% are unvaxed, and they die in the exact same proportion (just like I said) No, what it means is that the unvaxxed die at the rate of 1.71 in proportion to 100000 people where the vaxxed die at the rate of 0.1 in proportion to 100000 people. This is exactly what a ringing endorsement looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I already cited where you defended Zelensky's fascist control of the media and his jailing of opposition members of the gov't. He also has Nazis in his army and that doesn't even phase you. You're his useful idiot. Show me where I defended him, otherwise you are full of BS , again or should I say, as usual. . What did I say, what post, regarding what?? Back up you BS. You typically cannot so you accuse than depart LOL Edited September 23, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Perhaps you can't read. Or interpret graphs with actual numbers printed right on them. 85% of the Canadians dying from covid are multi-vaxed. I don't give a shit what is theoretically happening in the United States, where we don't have access to any actual stats. I care about my country. Not sure what basis those stats are from. The total covid deaths in Canada are over 45,000. These stats only add up to less than 20,000 Edited September 23, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Not sure what basis those stats are from. The total covid deaths in Canada are over 45,000. These stats only add up to less than 20,000 The USA, with 10X the population, had 22X the number of deaths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: The USA, with 10X the population, had 22X the number of deaths. Point was, WestConMan comes up with useless stats to support his useless comments and then calls anyone that stands up to him names LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: The USA, with 10X the population, had 22X the number of deaths. Not ONE single death at the Trucker Event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: The USA, with 10X the population, had 22X the number of deaths. Actually now 8.8X the population, so an even more striking difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Not ONE single death at the Trucker Event. Anyone catch COVID?? You seem to have the stats. Hey, it's your buddy WestConMan that keeps changing the topic to covid deaths LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Anyone catch COVID?? You seem to have the stats. Hey, it's your buddy WestConMan that keeps changing the topic to covid deaths LOL You've got nuthin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 11 hours ago, eyeball said: No, what it means is that the unvaxxed die at the rate of 1.71 in proportion to 100000 people where the vaxxed die at the rate of 0.1 in proportion to 100000 people. This is exactly what a ringing endorsement looks like. No, the fact is that in Canada, the country where you and I both live, 85% of people are multi-vaxed and they make up 85% of the deaths. The unvaxed die at the exact same rate per 100,000 people here, in our country. That is what a Pflacebo looks like. The death stats are there in black and white. 85% of our deaths are from the vaxed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 13 hours ago, eyeball said: That's right, and they are dying at a fraction of the rate at which unvaccinated Canadians are dying when they have COVID. That's just so stupid I can't even believe that you're saying it and thinking it makes sense. 85% of people are vaxed and 85% of the deaths are among the unvaxed. It is EXACTLY what you'd expect if they ate Corn Flakes instead of Rice Crispies. Who cares if "less unvaxed get covid but a greater percentage of the unvaxed who get infected with covid die"? That just means that way more people get covid after they're vaxed. It's a distinction without a difference, because in the end, the exact same proportion of vaxed people die. The death stat is where the rubber meets the road. Covid deaths are what we're trying to avoid. Your chances of dying here don't go down when you're vaxed. Not even by 1%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Show me where I defended him, otherwise you are full of BS , again or should I say, as usual. . What did I say, what post, regarding what?? Back up you BS. You typically cannot so you accuse than depart LOL You said that only Dog cares about it, which means that you feel like no one cares about Zelensky's Naziism. We already went over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Not sure what basis those stats are from. The total covid deaths in Canada are over 45,000. These stats only add up to less than 20,000 If you could read....? The stats start on Dec 14 2020, the first day that anyone in Canada received a dose of the Pflacebo. That's why the unvaxed deaths are so much higher. There wasn't a single fully jabbed Canadian until summer of 2021, after flu season was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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