Did Trudeau Fail His Country On Covid-19

[WestCanMan]

There's a photo here of Trudeau being awesome and practicing social distancing to set a good example for Canadians from back when he was staying in his basement. 

Look at all the media members huddled together under the tent, obviously not practicing social distancing. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbc-radio-s-the-house-mar-14-2020-1.5496949

I guess his example wasn't so good.

Now he's off crossing the Que/Ont provincial border for a holiday, which other Canadians are forbidden from doing. 

 

[jacee]

Government has work to do maintaining health and safety of essential workers so supplies and services keep flowing. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/labour-shortages-emergency-food-power-1.5531583

 

[OftenWrong]

On 4/14/2020 at 4:36 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

Darwinism at work!  Adapt or die.

I am the mutation

[OftenWrong]

On 4/14/2020 at 4:38 PM, Zeitgeist said:

What about public health social distancing and homestay messaging?

Trump was lesser faire and talking return to work by Easter   We all watched it unfold.

Now we get the history rewrite.  I just expect it now.

 

Was that before or after he found out the world was being lied to by China and the WHO?

[Zeitgeist]

So that’s the big spin, that the WHO is run by China, and China planned the pandemic, killing thousands of their own people, more probably because of cover-ups.  The upside for China is?  Pretty thin stuff.  China was grossly irresponsible with its wet markets, downplaying, and perhaps its virus labs, but if you’re saying this whole mess was planned by China, that’s a big claim that’s probably hard to prove.  It also doesn’t change the challenges with containment.

[jacee]

32 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

So that’s the big spin, that the WHO is run by China, and China planned the pandemic, killing thousands of their own people, more probably because of cover-ups.  The upside for China is?  Pretty thin stuff.  China was grossly irresponsible with its wet markets, downplaying, and perhaps its virus labs, but if you’re saying this whole mess was planned by China, that’s a big claim that’s probably hard to prove.  It also doesn’t change the challenges with containment.

Trump's just campaigning, distracting his minions from his incompetence by giving them a bone to chew on.

And no it doesn't change a thing for us in Canada. 

We can sloth around a while longer for the cause. Extended winter.  Lol 

 

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, jacee said:

Trump's just campaigning, distracting his minions from his incompetence by giving them a bone to chew on.

I say he's riding a wave of popularity now as the crisis often does elevate a leader. Not seeing much leadership from other countries, least of all... ahem.

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We can sloth around a while longer for the cause. Extended winter.  Lol 

Yes, a little more global warming would be good, might stop the virus. lol

[Rue]

9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

So that’s the big spin, that the WHO is run by China, and China planned the pandemic, killing thousands of their own people, more probably because of cover-ups.  The upside for China is?  Pretty thin stuff.  China was grossly irresponsible with its wet markets, downplaying, and perhaps its virus labs, but if you’re saying this whole mess was planned by China, that’s a big claim that’s probably hard to prove.  It also doesn’t change the challenges with containment.

That I think is the point Z. China's wet markets probably  incubated this virus as they have others not deliberately but based on unhygienic markets. The people themselves just sheep...their governent let them down not cleaning up their practices. They get sick...we all get sick because of lack of food and safety measures not deliberate intent to kill but bureaucratic incompetence. Thisctyen causes its government  to cover its mistakes up.

Chinese die as much if not more than anyone else because of their own government. The culpability belongs with all governments failing to work with one another openly and honestly and it starts with the Chinese one in this case.

In that sense yes the WHO is riddled with corrupted mandarins helping prevent the release of info that makes specific governments like China's look bad.

The Chinese government tried to cover up the virus..probably in a panic not a deliberate intentional attempt to kill. People forget how large China's government and population are and how difficult it is for them to coordinate any damn policy. 

I ain't apologizing for their government's ineptitude... but getting angry at it won't help. China needs to understand if it does not clean up its act we must boycott its products..and if need be require its citizens testedc for the virus before  entry to Canada if it does not clean its markets up.

No point bein angry. We need to be calm and focused.

Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue

[WestCanMan]

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2020/04/14/watch-the-video-cbc-didnt-want-you-to-see/?fbclid=IwAR0jrmbA2JzM8XIs-6qa7GavoyTLXtwQqTScOKFn9ujvoT7f_t8EliOqfvI

This is why our low-level scumbag/traitor PM is staying out of parliament. 

From the time that he came back to Canada (too bad) up until now that worthless sonofabitch has been in hiding from the virus. First in his basement, now he's away in a cabin with his family.

I don't think his wife ever had it. I think they just said that because they wanted to keep themselves out of harm's way, and keep that treacherous piece of crap away from answering questions from the opposition. 

It's time for a vote of non-confidence. We need to put an end to his disastrous government, no matter the cost, even during covid. 

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

So that’s the big spin, that the WHO is run by China, and China planned the pandemic, killing thousands of their own people, more probably because of cover-ups.  The upside for China is?  Pretty thin stuff.  China was grossly irresponsible with its wet markets, downplaying, and perhaps its virus labs, but if you’re saying this whole mess was planned by China, that’s a big claim that’s probably hard to prove.  It also doesn’t change the challenges with containment.

How long ago did China have a 1-baby policy, where they were taking people's second babies away and putting them into high-mortality-rate infirmaries, so that they could control their population?

If they were willing to let that happen to their own newborn babies, do you think they give a rip about the population demographic that's dying from covid? 

Why are so few people in nearby Beijing and Shanghai affected, yet it's having such a large effect in cities on the far corners of the earth?

No, there's no actual proof that will hold up in court right now, but there's a gun that's belching smoke for all to see. 

[Benz]

What to expect from a man that says "STAY HOME" and then go on vacation at his chalet later on. He is doing exactly what he is asking us to avoid. No, he is not only asking, we can be fined for that.

Trudeau is an imbecile and no one can argue against that.

[marcus]

59 minutes ago, Benz said:

What to expect from a man that says "STAY HOME" and then go on vacation at his chalet later on. He is doing exactly what he is asking us to avoid. No, he is not only asking, we can be fined for that.

Trudeau is an imbecile and no one can argue against that.

His family was there, at the chalet, which was 30 minutes drive from the Ottawa residences where he was previously quarantined. I'm not a Trudeau fan, but don't you think some of you are overdoing it with your criticism?

[scribblet]

No, half an our or 1.5 hours, it's still breaking the law which we would be fined for doing.  Not only that, there are renovations going on at Harrington Lake which means other people are around.  Not to mention his mother is living permanently at Harrington Lake so normally doesn't live with him.  

 

 

[scribblet]

On 4/16/2020 at 3:51 PM, WestCanMan said:

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2020/04/14/watch-the-video-cbc-didnt-want-you-to-see/?fbclid=IwAR0jrmbA2JzM8XIs-6qa7GavoyTLXtwQqTScOKFn9ujvoT7f_t8EliOqfvI

This is why our low-level scumbag/traitor PM is staying out of parliament. 

.................It's time for a vote of non-confidence. We need to put an end to his disastrous government, no matter the cost, even during covid. 

He's staying hiding because he doesn't want to answer questions, the same reason he doesn't want Parliament to convene, and he lied this morning as he  tried to lay blame on the CPC about opening parliament 3 days/wk which is is not unreasonable (and not all members)  No one is asking for a full Parliament everyday.  The Liberas Party/Trudeau are  trying to limit questions being asked of them by having only 1 day/wk.   to avoid accountability.

The vote of non confidence has to be when this is over, can't have an election now.

[Shady]

On 4/16/2020 at 3:18 AM, jacee said:

Trump's just campaigning, distracting his minions from his incompetence by giving them a bone to chew on.

And no it doesn't change a thing for us in Canada. 

We can sloth around a while longer for the cause. Extended winter.  Lol 

 

Trump’s distracting you from Trudeau’s failures.  Pay attention to your own country.  This is unacceptable!  Trudeau needs to act now, he’s failing the country and it’s costing lives.

The country doesn't have enough testing capacity, and might never get it

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-covid19-testing-canada-1.5527219

[Shady]

Quebec’s daily death total now exceeds New York.  Great job Trudeau.

[WestCanMan]

On 4/16/2020 at 12:18 AM, jacee said:

Trump's just campaigning, distracting his minions from his incompetence by giving them a bone to chew on.

And no it doesn't change a thing for us in Canada. 

We can sloth around a while longer for the cause. Extended winter.  Lol 

Trump doesn't need to distract anyone from his record of success as a POTUS.

The US that he inherited had racial riots and looting arson for 3 full years with no end in sight. Islamic state was in the top 100 largest countries on earth and the outgoing POTUS said it would take 5 years to get rid of them. The rioting and extreme racial division is a distant memory now. Islamic state isn't a landholder anymore.

There was record-low unemployment in the US before Covid started, and Trump was drastically ahead of the curve in dealing with Covid by comparison with our PM. 

I get that CNN acts like everything he does is a complete failure. They hate the way he drinks water. They called the covid travel ban racist. Then they said that he didn't act early enough. Those guys didn't even start talking about covid as headline news until long after he had already banned covid carriers from the country. They wouldn't say a word about how he should open the country, but as soon as he laid out his plan they said it was all wrong. 

CNN's record over the last 3 years was completely abysmal. They missed the whole FBI collusion story. They got caught lying their faces off about Russian collusion, Ukrainian quid pro quo, and Brett Kavanaugh. They were successfully sued by a high school kid for slander. Honest to fork, can you even imagine using a national TV network to punch down on a high school student, when you have to blatantly lie to do it? CNN hit an all-time low for TV News. They're the sleaziest, slimiest scumbags in the history of television. 

Anyone who can watch 20 minutes of CNN and not notice that they're liars and losers is just an irredeemable idiot.  

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, Shady said:

Quebec’s daily death total now exceeds New York.  Great job Trudeau.

Trudeau didn't even win a majority government if you only count Quebec. The Libs got 35 seats, BQ got 32, CPC got 10. 

The BQ just represent a bunch of bigots anyways, I'm sure that they feel like they can capitalize from the xenophobia of this issue plus Trudeau's weakness and failure here. It will be interesting to see what they have to say to the village idiot when he finally sets foot in Parliament. 

The NDP might feel like they have a shot at improving their status right now too, seeing as there isn't a leader of the CPC yet. If theres a quick election they probably feel like the CPC leader won't have a chance to really gain much traction.

Enter the dragon: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/leslyn-lewis-pride-parade-1.5492123

CBC hates LL, so take their propaganda with a grain of salt. Also remember that when this interview was done, Trudeau was still hiding in his basement and he hadn't taken any action vs Covid at all yet, and he hadn't announced and financial aid pkgs yet.

 

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump doesn't need to distract anyone from his record of success as a POTUS.

The US that he inherited had racial riots and looting arson for 3 full years with no end in sight. Islamic state was in the top 100 largest countries on earth and the outgoing POTUS said it would take 5 years to get rid of them. The rioting and extreme racial division is a distant memory now. Islamic state isn't a landholder anymore.

There was record-low unemployment in the US before Covid started, and Trump was drastically ahead of the curve in dealing with Covid by comparison with our PM. 

I get that CNN acts like everything he does is a complete failure. They hate the way he drinks water. They called the covid travel ban racist. Then they said that he didn't act early enough. Those guys didn't even start talking about covid as headline news until long after he had already banned covid carriers from the country. They wouldn't say a word about how he should open the country, but as soon as he laid out his plan they said it was all wrong. 

CNN's record over the last 3 years was completely abysmal. They missed the whole FBI collusion story. They got caught lying their faces off about Russian collusion, Ukrainian quid pro quo, and Brett Kavanaugh. They were successfully sued by a high school kid for slander. Honest to fork, can you even imagine using a national TV network to punch down on a high school student, when you have to blatantly lie to do it? CNN hit an all-time low for TV News. They're the sleaziest, slimiest scumbags in the history of television. 

Anyone who can watch 20 minutes of CNN and not notice that they're liars and losers is just an irredeemable idiot.  

You seem to occupy a different reality from the one I remember.  Go 4 minutes and 45 seconds into this Colbert at Home video to see a montage of Trump sound bytes on C-19:

 

[Argus]

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump doesn't need to distract anyone from his record of success as a POTUS.

The US that he inherited had racial riots and looting arson for 3 full years with no end in sight. Islamic state was in the top 100 largest countries on earth and the outgoing POTUS said it wo

This is an honest question. Why don't you go live in the US? You clearly worship Trump and all he stands for and disdain Canada and everything about it. Why not move?

[Argus]

Those morons in South Korea are doing all sorts of stuff which is a complete waste of time! Like they check everyone who crosses the border for symptoms, and make them download an app which requires they check in twice a day! And everyone has to wear a mask! And the contact tracing they do violates people's privacy! Honestly, we should offer them our help in instructing them not to waste their time with such things. Maybe we could send Patticakes Hadju over there to lecture them about not questioning China's statistics.

South Korea had 8 new cases of Covid-19 yesterday. Canada had about 1500.

South Korea's death rate is 5 per million. Canada's is 42.

While most of the rest of the world is locked away in their apartments South Korea's economy continues to operate mostly as usual.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/south-korea-covid-19-outbreak-record-1.5537631

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavirus-world-international-response/2020/4/19/21226931/coronavirus-south-korea-new-infections-single-digits-relax-social-distancing

Edited April 20, 2020 by Argus

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, Argus said:

This is an honest question. Why don't you go live in the US? You clearly worship Trump and all he stands for and disdain Canada and everything about it. Why not move?

This is an honest question: if I said something in that brief section you quoted that wasn’t 100% accurate then why don’t you point it out instead of replying with a non-sequitur?

If someone said “Clouds are up in the sky, by definition. Grass grows on the ground.” and someone replied “Why don’t you move to Ulan Batur?” would that make f’n sense to you?

Why doesn’t it dawn on you that the rioting is over? Suddenly the US is a place that you could visit safely and you say that it’s gotten worse by orders of magnitude. Can you explain that to me without CNN’s smelly words?

Where did I ever say that I hate everything about Canada? Has Canada always been about stupidity and obeying blatantly false propaganda but I just noticed now? What do I hate about Canada aside from Trudeau and people dumb enough to love him and CNN?

[Argus]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

This is an honest question: if I said something in that brief section you quoted that wasn’t 100% accurate then why don’t you point it out instead of replying with a non-sequitur?

Because I'm tired of the Trump cult taking over ever F'ing discussion to laud their great saviour. Pointing out how ludicrous that is and arguing with you people then pushes all intelligent discussion off the topic. And it's pointless, like arguing with 911 truthers. Nothing convinces you anyway, so just shut up and leave. If you want to talk about Trump then go to one of the US topics and stay away from the Canadian topics.

Edited April 20, 2020 by Argus

[bush_cheney2004]

20 minutes ago, Argus said:

Because I'm tired of the Trump cult taking over ever F'ing discussion to laud their great saviour. Pointing out how ludicrous that is and arguing with you people then pushes all intelligent discussion off the topic. And it's pointless, like arguing with 911 truthers. Nothing convinces you anyway, so just shut up and leave. If you want to talk about Trump then go to one of the US topics and stay away from the Canadian topics.

 

Won't make any difference, because the other cult(s) bring up Trump anyway, if only to praise Trudeau, Canada , globalism, Paris Agreement, WHO, China, etc....anything that Trump has confronted.

Trump dominates, taking up all the oxygen in the room, because that is what he wants to do, and you help him do it.

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Argus said:

Because I'm tired of the Trump cult taking over ever F'ing discussion to laud their great saviour. Pointing out how ludicrous that is and arguing with you people then pushes all intelligent discussion off the topic. And it's pointless, like arguing with 911 truthers. Nothing convinces you anyway, so just shut up and leave. If you want to talk about Trump then go to one of the US topics and stay away from the Canadian topics.

In summary, I made a couple of accurate points, you had no valid counter-points, so like a belligerent racist you jumped to the conclusion that I should should leave the country. That's a ridiculous answer, compounded by the fact that you're talking about the end of intelligent discussion. 

Step up to the plate with accurate verifiable facts when you reply, or just keep doing what you're doing, it makes no difference to me. I'm not going to jump on a bandwagon of stupid liars.

The fact of the matter in this thread is that Trudeau did not do one single thing to protect Canada from Covid until March 16th. Book it. Learn it. Deal with it. Or at the very least, try to refute it. You'll be a hero to the leftist dolts if you can prove that our dear leader did a single, solitary thing Argus. Just one thing, in at the very least, 45 days, where there were lots of positive actions that he could have taken.