QuebecOverCanada Posted June 4, 2019 Report Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) This is what the West has become, in the Netherlands. Netherlands teen raped as child is legally euthanized due to ‘unbearable’ pain A 17-year-old Dutch girl was legally allowed to kill herself using euthanasia after she was raped when younger and spent years battling depression, according to a report Tuesday. “Love is letting go, in this case,” Noa Pothoven of Arnhem wrote in an Instagram post announcing her choice to die in the living room of her home Sunday. Pothoven — who was sexually abused at 11 and raped three years later — said she was sick of suffering “unbearable pain. “Maybe this comes as a surprise to some, given my posts about hospitalization, but my plan has been there for a long time and is not impulsive,” she wrote. “I will get straight to the point: within a maximum of 10 days I will die,” she added. “After years of battling and fighting, I am drained. I have quit eating and drinking for a while now, and after many discussions and evaluations, it was decided to let me go because my suffering is unbearable. ”I breathe, but I no longer live.” In The Netherlands, kids ages 12 to 16 need permission from a parent to be euthanized and must have consulted a doctor, who agrees that their suffering is unbearable and likely to continue. But at 17, children no longer need their parents’ consent to apply to kill themselves. Pothoven turned 17 in December. The Netherlands legalized euthanasia in 2001 — the year she was born. https://nypost.com/2019/06/04/netherlands-teen-raped-as-child-legally-euthanized-due-to-unbearable-pain/ Edited June 4, 2019 by QuebecOverCanada Quote
scribblet Posted June 4, 2019 Report Posted June 4, 2019 That is very disturbing, it sure is a slippery slope. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
eyeball Posted June 4, 2019 Report Posted June 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, scribblet said: That is very disturbing, it sure is a slippery slope. It's a pretty sad story alright. If the only way to prevent something like this is to give the government more power to take back people's rights to choose I think you'll find that's the slipperier slope. If the price of less intrusion into our lives or deaths is an occasional wrenching of one's heart or conscience I think I can live with that. I just hope they catch the bastards who ruined her life. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Zeitgeist Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 Sadly I think this is going to become common, and not even parents will be able to prevent doctors from signing off on it. I also think there will be pressure on the elderly to take their own lives. It won’t be publicized, but elderly parents will feel the pressure to go. In some cases they will be told, “It’s time.” There’s a very dark future shock quality to euthanasia. If pressure on resources grows, these kinds of practices will be condoned like partial birth abortions of eight or nine month old infants in China. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 That's the problem...and we all saw it coming. I generally have supported euthanasia in the past, but it is a slippery slope. Everyone is for it, scoffs at the idea that it will turn into this, but when you cant legally distinguish "pain", this is where it inevitably ends. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Dougie93 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Slippery slope is an idiotic fallacy, the idea that 17 year olds will be euthanizing themselves left and right is nonsense. Edited June 5, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Slippery slope is an idiotic fallacy, the idea that 17 year olds will be euthanizing themselves left and right is nonsense, you people are morons. Maybe....in Chicago, they don't need no steenkin' euthanasia law to kill themselves...they only need bullets. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dialamah Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 She stopped eating and drinking; the first time they force fed her. This time it seems they decided instead to believe what she told them and rather than let her die slowly of thirst, they consented to euthanasia. It's a pretty sad story for sure, but would hanging herself in her bedroom, or slitting her wrists in the bathtub for her parents to find her be a better outcome? This way, her parents could say goodbye and be with her till the end. Quote
Altai Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Western is getting more mad with each passing day. You are destroying the future of your kids with your hands. Bravo. Western countries are also trying to spread the same corruption to other countries in the World. Edited June 5, 2019 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
BubberMiley Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 8 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Maybe....in Chicago, they don't need no steenkin' euthanasia law to kill themselves...they only need bullets. All of the U.S., not just where the darker colored skin tones are. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Hal 9000 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 I didn't know how many people were fine with teen suicide until now. Personally, I think the system failed this young girl. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Dougie93 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 Life is struggle, only the strong survive. I can't generate any empathy for such a pathetic creature. All I can think of is Anne Frank fighting so hard to live, only to be killed mere weeks before the Netherlands could be liberated, that's who I would shed a tear for. Quote
Shady Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 13 hours ago, dialamah said: She stopped eating and drinking; the first time they force fed her. This time it seems they decided instead to believe what she told them and rather than let her die slowly of thirst, they consented to euthanasia. It's a pretty sad story for sure, but would hanging herself in her bedroom, or slitting her wrists in the bathtub for her parents to find her be a better outcome? This way, her parents could say goodbye and be with her till the end. False choice. This is the progressive dream. If this constitutes progress, count me out. It's deplorable. 1 Quote
Shady Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 How the government allowed a minor to take her own life with assistance is beyond me. 1 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said: I didn't know how many people were fine with teen suicide until now. Personally, I think the system failed this young girl. You’re right to feel that way. Most cases of depression are biochemical imbalances that can be treated through medication and/or therapy. I have a problem with medically assisted suicide because it runs counter to the Hyppocratic Oath doctors take to save lives. If such a right to die must exist, there must be a condition to try all other medical options prior to giving any assistance to suicide, which is really collaborating in murder, however gently and “mercifully” it is done. Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted June 5, 2019 Author Report Posted June 5, 2019 Just know something when it comes to Liberalism, which I consider mental illness in its purest form. Liberals don't care about the value of human life. It started with foetuses, then it started with old demented folks, then the slope is slippery enough to think that Human Life, even for someone physically apt, is worthless. You'll see that in the future, we'll care less and less about living well, but to die well. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 She wasn't euthanized. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1355269001 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: She wasn't euthanized. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1355269001 NO way, media jumps the gun, does not do the vetting of the information and then has to change it when the real evidence comes out. Typical. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted June 5, 2019 Report Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: She wasn't euthanized. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1355269001 A 17 year old could legally make arrangements with a doctor to have medically assisted suicide in the Netherlands without any parent knowledge or involvement. On another note, Trudeau has just promised billions of dollars, a good portion of which will be funding abortions, to “improve child and maternal” health: https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiSpqWvm9PiAhXHslkKHTukAnEQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ctvnews.ca%2Fpolitics%2Fpm-trudeau-increasing-funding-for-global-women-s-health-to-1-4-billion-1.4451177&psig=AOvVaw3h1R3YE32zTKvM94GzoE1n&ust=1559854070169527 Whatever people may feel about the “right to choose”, it’s pretty partisan and reckless for a government with massive debt to dedicate billions in tax dollars to this kind of dubious so called “international aid.” Edited June 5, 2019 by Zeitgeist Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 6, 2019 Report Posted June 6, 2019 On another note... I hate Trudeau so here's an unrelated story... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
QuebecOverCanada Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Posted June 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: On another note... I hate Trudeau so here's an unrelated story... Huh??? Have you read what was just written? It is totally related. The teen was authorized to commit suicide with assistance. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 6, 2019 Report Posted June 6, 2019 4 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Huh??? Have you read what was just written? It is totally related. The teen was authorized to commit suicide with assistance. This news from Holland is related to Canadian aid policy? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
QuebecOverCanada Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Posted June 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This news from Holland is related to Canadian aid policy? Wait, have you read the first point he made? 'A 17 year old could legally make arrangements with a doctor to have medically assisted suicide in the Netherlands without any parent knowledge or involvement. ' (Zeitgeist, answering the fact you brought up that she was not euthanized, which is true, she wasn't euthanized, but left to die. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 7, 2019 Report Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Wait, have you read the first point he made? 'A 17 year old could legally make arrangements with a doctor to have medically assisted suicide in the Netherlands without any parent knowledge or involvement. ' (Zeitgeist, answering the fact you brought up that she was not euthanized, which is true, she wasn't euthanized, but left to die. Right - so: Euthanasia in Holland... Trudeau's aid policy... you are casting a wide net. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
J4L Posted June 9, 2019 Report Posted June 9, 2019 This is so wrong. Millions of Canadians suffer from mental health issues. To not criminalize this is insane. Society is sending a clear message: If you have mental health problems, kill yourself. 1 Quote
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