ReeferMadness Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 When a supreme court nominee runs into problems with serious allegations of sexual predation, the president orders a sham investigation; a move right out of the playbook of Validimir Putin. As millions of the president's useful idiots (some of whom post right here on MLW!) concoct ridiculous rationalizations, the national law enforcement agency meekly follows the president's orders without a peep. Despite the fact that the nominee has obviously been lying to congress for weeks, he is confirmed anyway. What has happened this week is a stride towards a descent into authoritarianism, American style. With a supreme court justice installed in such a disgraceful and corrupt fashion, what intelligent, thinking person could believe that when he needs to rule on Trump's corruption, he will render and impartial vote towards the verdict? Unlike Russia, we are unlikely to see President Trump become president for life (although the way Trump lives and eats, that's unlikely to be long anyway). The USA is now an oligarchy and Trump is himself the ultimate useful idiot, a reality TV personality playing the role of president. Trump, a sad caricature completely lacking a moral compass who bumbles from issue to issue gathering headlines, makes the billionaires richer with huge tax cuts while simultaneously driving up military spending. The USA is a jet and he's pointed the nose straight down and pushed the throttle to the max. When he leaves or dies, there will be other useful idiots who come along right behind him. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 More importantly, the USA is not a post-national state led by a putz with a progressive, "feminist agenda". Far from "sinking", the USA's economy is breaking records for growth and employment for over a generation. But all is not lost for the leftists in the USA and the like minded sycophants watching breathlessly in Canada....there is another election in just one month ! 3 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 Sure. Hitler was also credited with economic and employment growth. True story - I used to know people who were alive during WWII and claimed that "Hitler was a good man who did great things for Germany but just went crazy at the end". They were otherwise normal people. That's not to say Trump is like Hitler - Trump is a puppet and a moron. But it is to say it's amazing at how truly blind and ignorant people can be in the face of clear and present decline. It's how Hitler rose to power and it's how evil takes hold while people are oblivious to it. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ReeferMadness said: Sure. Hitler was also credited with economic and employment growth. True story - I used to know people who were alive during WWII and claimed that "Hitler was a good man who did great things for Germany but just went crazy at the end". They were otherwise normal people. So what ? I used to know people whose relatives were interned by FDR during WW2....big deal. Quote That's not to say Trump is like Hitler - Trump is a puppet and a moron. But it is to say it's amazing at how truly blind and ignorant people can be in the face of clear and present decline. It's how Hitler rose to power and it's how evil takes hold while people are oblivious to it. So what ? X 2. Plenty of evil in the USA (and Canada) now and in the past and it didn't take no damn Hitler. Crying "Hitler" every time a political battle is lost just screams desperation and is an insult to those who actually died or endured his regime. Hitler...Hitler...Hitler....yawn. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Hitler...Hitler...Hitler....yawn. Yeah. Sociopaths who assume that when things go to hell, they'll be spared are the same ones who whine and beg when it's too late. Karma. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ReeferMadness said: Yeah. Sociopaths who assume that when things go to hell, they'll be spared are the same ones who whine and beg when it's too late. Karma. Bring it on....things went to hell a long time ago. Don't be afraid of the past or the future....boo ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 My god man, you've been gone from here too long. That leftist koolaid you've been drinking somewhere else has infected your brain. Try to relax... world still safe for now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Fair enough. It's not all bad news. In 2016, not only did Trump lose the election by 3 million votes, the parts of the US that voted against him accounted for almost 2/3 of the US economy. If the smart, educated parts of the US ever decide to dump the uneducated, backwards parts, Trump will be king of a backwards country. And next time he wants to look for a "shithole country", well, he won't have far to look. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ReeferMadness said: When a supreme court nominee runs into problems with serious allegations of sexual predation, the president orders a sham investigation; a move right out of the playbook of Validimir Putin. As millions of the president's useful idiots (some of whom post right here on MLW!) concoct ridiculous rationalizations, the national law enforcement agency meekly follows the president's orders without a peep. Despite the fact that the nominee has obviously been lying to congress for weeks, he is confirmed anyway. What has happened this week is a stride towards a descent into authoritarianism, American style. With a supreme court justice installed in such a disgraceful and corrupt fashion, what intelligent, thinking person could believe that when he needs to rule on Trump's corruption, he will render and impartial vote towards the verdict? Unlike Russia, we are unlikely to see President Trump become president for life (although the way Trump lives and eats, that's unlikely to be long anyway). The USA is now an oligarchy and Trump is himself the ultimate useful idiot, a reality TV personality playing the role of president. Trump, a sad caricature completely lacking a moral compass who bumbles from issue to issue gathering headlines, makes the billionaires richer with huge tax cuts while simultaneously driving up military spending. The USA is a jet and he's pointed the nose straight down and pushed the throttle to the max. When he leaves or dies, there will be other useful idiots who come along right behind him. hahahaha ......now, we have to put up with the endless melt-down! Hahahahaha BushCheney already covered the economy! let me add this: Funny thing about this so-called bumbling idiot: in such a short time, he's already made two huge changes that would last even long after he's gone - he's already installed TWO Supreme Court Justices! There might even be a third one! He's appointed lawmen who will stick to the Constitution - unlike the Democrat appointees , who manipulate and twist the Comstitution to suit their narrative. Speaking of authoritarian - it's the Democrats who's behaving like authoritarians. Quote The right to the presumption of innocence (subsumed in the right to fair trial) is enshrined in Article 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. http://www.claiminghumanrights.org/presumption_innocence.html Quote DUE PROCESS OF LAW AND EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW: The 5th and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution guarantee “due process of law” to all persons, including foreign students and other aliens in the US. Due process of law requires that orderly legal procedures be followed to establish guilt before a person can be put in jail or otherwise punished. In the United States, a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. https://www.wabash.edu/international/uslaws They totally disregarded Kavanaugh's right! Only evil dictators do that! Edited October 7, 2018 by betsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, ReeferMadness said: Fair enough. It's not all bad news. In 2016, not only did Trump lose the election by 3 million votes, the parts of the US that voted against him accounted for almost 2/3 of the US economy. If the smart, educated parts of the US ever decide to dump the uneducated, backwards parts, Trump will be king of a backwards country. And next time he wants to look for a "shithole country", well, he won't have far to look. A vote is a vote, whether from the rich or the poor. If you want to give more voting power to the wealthy... think about what that really means. Have you heard the expression "tyranny of the masses"? Country folks have the right to live the way they want, just as city folks do. You give too much power to the government, you know what you get? Run over. US electoral college is a balanced system something like our Ridings. In Canada, you win by the number of ridings, not by the popular vote. These types of wins can happen, have happened before and are actually an inherent vital part of the design of a representative democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 38 minutes ago, ReeferMadness said: If the smart, educated parts of the US ever decide to dump the uneducated, backwards parts, Trump will be king of a backwards country. And next time he wants to look for a "shithole country", well, he won't have far to look. Read a headline today, US unemployment rate lowest in like 50 years. That's unprecedented. Or should I say, "Un-Presidented". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, ReeferMadness said: What has happened this week is a stride towards a descent into authoritarianism, American style. I think it looks more like a symptom of having been hip deep in one for years now myself. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 The next question I have is: will real wages rise before the economy crashes again ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: The next question I have is: will real wages rise before the economy crashes again ? My next question is, what is Trump's vision for government apart from increasing consumption? Unemployment was already quite low. Other than tax cuts, strong-arming allies, and dismantling public institutions like the EPA, what's next for America? Was it worth blowing the pubic treasury, damaging international relations, and screwing up on climate change? If the economy crashes, well, let's hope those jobs don't disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: My next question is, what is Trump's vision for government apart from increasing consumption? Unemployment was already quite low. Other than tax cuts, strong-arming allies, and dismantling public institutions like the EPA, what's next for America? Was it worth blowing the pubic treasury, damaging international relations, and screwing up on climate change? If the economy crashes, well, let's hope those jobs don't disappear. Already answered by President Trump....creating a "Space Force"....colonies on the Moon....men/women on Mars to claim the entire planet for the United States. Then star ships...first one to be named "U.S.S. Enterprise". Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 For me, it no longer matters. We have a trade agreement, much to my surprise. Now we don't have to listen to Kavanaugh news ad naseum. Quote A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: For me, it no longer matters. We have a trade agreement, much to my surprise. Now we don't have to listen to Kavanaugh news ad naseum. You're right. About this we should rejoice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Already answered by President Trump....creating a "Space Force"....colonies on the Moon....men/women on Mars to claim the entire planet for the United States. Then star ships...first one to be named "U.S.S. Enterprise". I wish I could believe there are greater aspirations there, but I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 A leading Holocaust historian just seriously compared the US to Nazi Germany. Quote But a new essay in the New York Review of Books pointing out “troubling similarities” between the 1930s and today is different: It’s written by Christopher Browning, one of America’s most eminent and well-respected historians of the Holocaust. In it, he warns that democracy here is under serious threat, in the way that German democracy was prior to Hitler’s rise — and really could topple altogether. Quote If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell. He stoked the hyperpolarization of American politics to make the Obama presidency as dysfunctional and paralyzed as he possibly could. As with parliamentary gridlock in Weimar, congressional gridlock in the US has diminished respect for democratic norms, allowing McConnell to trample them even more. Huh. Historians are saying what I'm saying. Go figure. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ReeferMadness said: A leading Holocaust historian just seriously compared the US to Nazi Germany. Huh. Historians are saying what I'm saying. Go figure. I read some of that link. Saying "America First" equates to being a Nazi? Sounds like a Russian troll. Edited October 7, 2018 by OftenWrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: You're right. About this we should rejoice. Why? You think an America under Trump will pay much attention to a treaty they sign? Not unless it's convenient. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I read some of that link. Saying "America First" equates to being a Nazi? Sounds like a Russian troll. Perhaps you should have read the whole thing. Twice, even, because then you might have noticed where the author drew parallels to the rise of Nazis in Germany, as well as where the current political situation is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 57 minutes ago, ReeferMadness said: A leading Holocaust historian just seriously compared the US to Nazi Germany. Huh. Historians are saying what I'm saying. Go figure. Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it. But no doubt they won't notice. Just as Erdogan and Putin have their genuine supporters, so will those who directly benefit or hope to benefit from oppression of "others" support an illiberal regime in the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I think all talk of Nazis should be put on hold until Trump starts his third term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Quote When the generation that survived the war is no longer with us, we'll find out whether we have learned from history. Angela Merkel The thought that the lessons of the worst conflict in human history could only last one generation is pretty depressing. Edited October 7, 2018 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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