Justin Trudeau the Worst PM Since Pierre Trudeau?

Boges · April 25, 2017

And under the legalized model, you stand to get more time in jail if you give your kid brother a joint than if you actually sexually assaulted him.

SpankyMcFarland · April 26, 2017

On 4/25/2017 at 11:09 AM, PIK said:

So our evidence based decision making PM is a cupper. It is a old egyptian procedure that is the same as giving yourself a hickey. And also he spoke about his corrupt father using his power to make a drug charge disappear for his brother. Thanks to all that voted for this fool.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/trudeau-says-father-used-connections-to-get-brother-michel-cleared-of-pot-charges

A LOT of people have gone down a similar route as the Trudeaus over the years, a lot of charges have been dropped or never made, which I think is the point of the story, and he deserves credit for his honesty. Possession of cannabis for personal use should not ruin any young person's life when so many young people do it.

Edited April 26, 2017 by SpankyMcFarland

AngusThermopyle · April 26, 2017

On 2/15/2017 at 9:02 PM, Michael Hardner said:

FYI - please use appropriate names for political leaders, thanks.

Are you saying we should be extremely profane when talking about Trudeau?

PIK · April 26, 2017

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

A LOT of people have gone down a similar route as the Trudeaus over the years, a lot of charges have been dropped or never made, which I think is the point of the story, and he deserves credit for his honesty. Possession of cannabis for personal use should not ruin any young person's life when so many young people do it.

You are right and trudeau will not decriminalize it, but his family is allowed to get away with it and he smoked weed as a MP and nothing was ever done about it.

SpankyMcFarland · April 26, 2017

32 minutes ago, PIK said:

You are right and trudeau will not decriminalize it, but his family is allowed to get away with it and he smoked weed as a MP and nothing was ever done about it.

An awful lot of people have got away with it.

eyeball · April 26, 2017

6 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

A LOT of people have gone down a similar route as the Trudeaus over the years, a lot of charges have been dropped or never made, which I think is the point of the story, and he deserves credit for his honesty. Possession of cannabis for personal use should not ruin any young person's life when so many young people do it.

And despite his intimate familial awareness of this Trudeau insists on leaving the means for the state to do so to other people anyway. Do as the politicians say not as they do is the real point of the story - this attitude effectively ruins everything eventually.

Trudeau is a sphincter of worst kind.

AngusThermopyle · April 26, 2017

7 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

A LOT of people have gone down a similar route as the Trudeaus over the years, a lot of charges have been dropped or never made, which I think is the point of the story, and he deserves credit for his honesty. Possession of cannabis for personal use should not ruin any young person's life when so many young people do it.

The point of the story would appear to be that his father used his status and former position to make the whole thing disappear. It's not a matter of charges being dropped, it's a matter of using influence in a corrupt manner. In short it stinks but is also pretty typical of Pierre Trudeau.

AngusThermopyle · April 26, 2017

4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

An awful lot of people have got away with it.

So in your opinion, even though it's still illegal, that makes it okay? A lot of people have also gotten away with theft and murder, does that principle also apply to those crimes?

SpankyMcFarland · April 26, 2017

2 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said:

So in your opinion, even though it's still illegal, that makes it okay? A lot of people have also gotten away with theft and murder, does that principle also apply to those crimes?

Trudeau deserves credit for freely telling a story that many could have told. I hope it is no revelation to anybody here that the rich and powerful get to bend the law a lot more than the poor. I did not say it is okay and neither did JT. His candour is refreshing.

And we are not talking about murder but possession of a drug considerably less dangerous than alcohol by any reasonable measure.

Edited April 26, 2017 by SpankyMcFarland

bush_cheney2004 · April 26, 2017

It comes as no surprise that PM Justin Trudeau was an illegal drug user and admits to still doing so.

PIK · April 28, 2017

And our defence minister got caught in a ugly lie and must resign.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/sajjan-retracts-claim-he-was-architect-of-canadas-biggest-combat-operation-in-Afghanistan

Edited April 28, 2017 by PIK

DogOnPorch · April 28, 2017

He fit the suit.

bush_cheney2004 · April 28, 2017

34 minutes ago, PIK said:

And our defence minister got caught in a ugly lie and must resign.

I would expect nothing less from a Justin Trudeau appointed minister.

Eisenhower was only a reservist major when he architected D-Day landings all by himself !

Argus · April 28, 2017

54 minutes ago, PIK said:

And our defence minister got caught in a ugly lie and must resign.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/sajjan-retracts-claim-he-was-architect-of-canadas-biggest-combat-operation-in-Afghanistan

You are clearly being racist for attacking a fine upstanding Sikh man because of his brown skin!

PIK · April 28, 2017

2 hours ago, Argus said:

You are clearly being racist for attacking a fine upstanding Sikh man because of his brown skin!

I know, but someone has to take one for the team.

dialamah · April 28, 2017

5 hours ago, PIK said:

And our defence minister got caught in a ugly lie and must resign.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/sajjan-retracts-claim-he-was-architect-of-canadas-biggest-combat-operation-in-Afghanistan

What an idiot, speaking ego instead of accuracy. Didn't see anything saying he must resign, although I don't disagree with the sentiment.

blackbird · April 29, 2017

On 2017-04-26 at 4:29 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

Trudeau deserves credit for freely telling a story that many could have told. I hope it is no revelation to anybody here that the rich and powerful get to bend the law a lot more than the poor. I did not say it is okay and neither did JT. His candour is refreshing.

And we are not talking about murder but possession of a drug considerably less dangerous than alcohol by any reasonable measure.

And lawyers will be arguing in court that their clients should also get off since the PM got off.

SpankyMcFarland · April 29, 2017

58 minutes ago, blackbird said:

And lawyers will be arguing in court that their clients should also get off since the PM got off.

You are going to have to explain that in rather more detail than you have provided. What particular point of law are you referring to that would impress a judge?

There's a real Trudeau Derangement Syndrome operating here. Everything he says has to be evil. Would you have preferred he didn't say anything at all?

Time for a little honesty. How many here have families who never got away with anything?

blackbird · April 29, 2017

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

You are going to have to explain that in rather more detail than you have provided. What particular point of law are you referring to that would impress a judge?

There's a real Trudeau Derangement Syndrome operating here. Everything he says has to be evil. Would you have preferred he didn't say anything at all?

Time for a little honesty. How many here have families who never got away with anything?

I'm not a lawyer but I think they go by precedent a lot. If Trudeau made much of getting off because his father was a Prime Minister, maybe they could argue their clients should receive the same treatment, especially since Trudeau told about it in public. Equal treatment for everyone? Equality under the law??

Edited April 29, 2017 by blackbird

Omni · April 29, 2017

28 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I'm not a lawyer but I think they go by precedent a lot. If Trudeau made much of getting off because his father was a Prime Minister, maybe they could argue their clients should receive the same treatment, especially since Trudeau told about it in public. Equal treatment for everyone? Equality under the law??

Got off what? Was he ever charged?

Michael Hardner · April 29, 2017

6 hours ago, Omni said:

Got off what? Was he ever charged?

Aren't you splitting hairs ? Didn't PM Justin Trudeau as much as admit that his father could make charges go away ? That, to me, comprises having the investigation stopped, having the Crown not pursue the case or anything that would stop the process.

-TSS- · April 29, 2017

I would have thought the prize of the worst PM would go to Kim Campbell under whose premiership an entire party was destroyed. Or was she just unlucky to inherit a sinking ship from her predecessor Mulroney?

Wilber · April 29, 2017

2 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

I would have thought the prize of the worst PM would go to Kim Campbell under whose premiership an entire party was destroyed. Or was she just unlucky to inherit a sinking ship from her predecessor Mulroney?

It was destroyed under Mulroney, Campbell was the sacrificial goat.

Wilber · April 29, 2017

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Aren't you splitting hairs ? Didn't PM Justin Trudeau as much as admit that his father could make charges go away ? That, to me, comprises having the investigation stopped, having the Crown not pursue the case or anything that would stop the process.

Doesn't matter, you can't claim a case that never happened as a precedent.

eyeball · April 30, 2017

20 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Time for a little honesty. How many here have families who never got away with anything?

I suppose asking that of fellow posters with similar sorts of connections is fair game so...fess up those of you whose Dad conveniently happened to be a PM.