betsy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Are you aware of the sanctions against Russia? If so, read my question in that context. I can't answer that question until everything becomes really clear. If Hillary did interfere with Russia's election.....why can't Putin? Edited January 7, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 The reason the Dems are using the Russia hacked is they want to go to war and that also includes NATO and I hope Trudeau has some brains and thinks 3x before supporting this and this also would cause the cancellation of Trump as President. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-against-the-truth-when-the-lie-becomes-the-truth-is-obama-preparing-war-against-russia/5567181 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 No one wants to go to war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Btw, according to the latest report Russians expected Clinton to win! Quote The report said the Russians expected Clinton to win, and “were prepared to publicly call into question the validity of the results. ProKremlin bloggers had prepared a Twitter campaign, #DemocracyRIP, on election night in anticipation of Secretary Clinton’s victory.” In his statement, Trump seized on the report’s finding that despite online probing into electoral boards, “there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines.” http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-calls-u-s-probe-russia-hacking-witch-hunt-article-1.2937349 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 31 minutes ago, betsy said: It's not because Putin likes Trump. It's because Putin hates Hillary! So at least you seem to be getting the picture the FBI, CIA, and NSA is painting for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, betsy said: I can't answer that question until everything becomes really clear. If Hillary did interfere with Russia's election.....why can't Putin? You choose to wait until the talking points come out. I understand. But why are you taking on the task of being Putin's defence lawyer? Even if there were evidence Hillary messed with the Russian election, that would not excuse Trump doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Trump is correct to take advantage of this opportunity....better relations with Putin is important....far more important than with Justin Trudeau, who also tried to impact the U.S. election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump is correct to take advantage of this opportunity....better relations with Putin is important....far more important than with Justin Trudeau, who also tried to impact the U.S. election. Of course it's important, he'll have to try and win another election in 4 years. He'll probably need a lot of help from Putin by that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: Of course it's important, he'll have to try and win another election in 4 years. He'll probably need a lot of help from Putin by that time. That's a win-win scenario for the U.S. and Trump. Other NATO deadbeats may have to start paying their "fair share". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump is correct to take advantage of this opportunity....better relations with Putin is important....far more important than with Justin Trudeau, who also tried to impact the U.S. election. So true, JT the kid has shown himself to be badly out of his depth. Trump, by playing good cop to Obama's lousy cop, can restart things fresh, and you know he'll be willing to reach for the military when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That's a win-win scenario for the U.S. and Trump. Other NATO deadbeats may have to start paying their "fair share". Oh you'll be paying your share again when Trump gets that arms race up and going again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Omni said: Oh you'll be paying your share again when Trump gets that arms race up and going again. Always have paid....nothing new there. I love the smell of Thiokol rocket motor stages in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Always have paid....nothing new there. I love the smell of Thiokol rocket motor stages in the morning. Yep, it always makes sense to spend a trillion dollars on a bunch of crap you plan to throw into a hole in the ground and hope you never use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: Yep, it always makes sense to spend a trillion dollars on a bunch of crap you plan to throw into a hole in the ground and hope you never use. Still counts as GDP.....even in Russia. Not so much in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Still counts as GDP.....even in Russia. Not so much in Canada. Yep, must keep that military industrial complex swathed in your dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cum Laude Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 5:01 PM, Omni said: Yep, must keep that military industrial complex swathed in your dollars. Here is what I see when I view the MSM “news”: The New World Order train was rolling right along with directives from Bush II to “invade and occupy seven countries in five years”. Recall when Gen. Wesley Clark visited The Pentagon two weeks after 9/11 where he was handed a memo detailing how the United States intended to invade Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and ending with Iran over the next five years”? You can Youtube the video of Clark telling Amy Goodman all about it. So, that was the tip of the iceberg of “The Deep State’s” game plan and George W. Bush handed Obama the baton and Obama never broke his stride in attempting to keep the war ball rolling. Russia didn’t get in the way when Hillary Clinton and NATO destroyed Libya and sent a bayonet up Qaddafi’s rectum (it’s on video if you can stand to watch it). But Russia stepped in when Obama drew his “red line” and Kerry made the mistake of saying, “Well, if Assad’s chemical weapons were gone that would be a game changer.” Putin and Lavrov obliged and came in to help Assad get rid of the chemical weapons (even though all evidence pointed to the U.S. rebels using chemical weapons provided to them through Hillary’s “rat line” from Libya). Then Assad invited Putin to come in to help him deal with ISIS (who are now training seven year old’s to behead people and toddlers to shoot people…Google it), and Putin has come in and now it appears Syria, Turkey, Iran and Russia are the “peacemakers” having excluded the U.S. aggressor from “peace talks” (smart move!). Hillary Rodham Clinton was bold in her statements during the campaign that she would institute a “no fly zone” in Syria and be more aggressive in Ukraine against Russia. Of course a “no fly zone” would have pitted the U.S. military against the Russian military and we would be off to WW III which is exactly what The Deep State wants. More chaos, more enemies, more money to be made by the MIC and more power to be achieved through force. Any sixth grader presented with the facts regarding what happened in Ukraine would immediately see that the United States led by Hillary Clinton and her sycophant Victoria Nuland orchestrated the coup in Ukraine. What a SHOCK when Putin tried to protect the eastern part of Ukraine (who are predominantly Russian speakers and many traveled to Russia to work) and when he helped the people of Crimea to vote to secede from Ukraine. I watched that vote and it was a thing of beauty watching thousands of smiling people place paper ballots into clear plastic containers and watching people sitting around counting the results! The American people could learn a LOT about how a “transparent” voting process actually is done! Had Hillary Clinton been elected the plan was for her to take the George W. Bush “regime change” baton from Obama and continue the Deep State’s quest for “full spectrum military/economic dominance” of the world and to relegate Russia to a third world status (eventually) even if it meant war. In Obama’s recently signed NDAA it details all the locations of Russia’s high command centers in case of a nuclear war. Google it. Russia is in The Pentagon’s cross hairs. Putin giving Edward Snowden safe haven has to be a thorn in Obama’s side. Trump and his very bright son-in-law, Jared Kushner, threw a monkey wrench into the works when Kushner hired a wiz bang computer guy to figure out where Trump should be campaigning in order to win the necessary electoral votes. (Google this. It’s a fascinating story!) Hillary and her corrupt “team” obviously were playing checkers while Trump and Jared were playing chess. She may have won the “popular” vote by the millions of brain dead liberals in California and New York stacking the count, but Trump and his team received the votes they needed to WIN the election. Thus the shock of everyone on election night at CNN, MSNBC and even at FOX! All their stupid pollsters were wrong, wrong, wrong. It’s fun to watch election night coverage going from giddy (cocksure Hillary was coming to The Javits Center to break the glass ceiling) to catatonic in the span of a few hours. It was interesting though how the top two polls that had the best historical record were RIGHT! The IBD/TIPP poll and the LA Times/USC poll both consistently said Trump was ahead by 3-5%! The bottom line is this: Once Trump won the election and the wheels of regime change were ground to a halt with the Trump monkey wrench, Plan B had to be dusted off and that had to be to demonize Russia day in and day out. Thus the blaming of Putin for Hillary Clinton being a thoroughly corrupt, lying criminal (pay to play Clinton Foundation shenanigans for a starter). This is classic Wizard of Oz stuff playing out here. The great Wizard up on the screen is Putin and his “hackers” and Assange and Wikileaks but the guy behind the screen we are supposed to pay no attention to is The Deep State, the propagandistic media (think Operation Mockingbird), the corrupt Clinton Crime Family and their rotten DNC operatives who deep-sixed Sanders (that would have been yet a different monkey wrench dropped into their evil machinations). The curtain has been pulled back now and the whole world can see that the Emperor is wearing no clothes. Now it will be up to Trump to do his thing and time will tell if he is able to “make America great again” and to make peace with Russia and to stop the stupid and destructive “regime change” policies of The Deep State. I am willing to wait and see what he does and pray for him and his administration to make the sea change this country (and the world) so desperately needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 3:01 PM, Omni said: Yep, must keep that military industrial complex swathed in your dollars. You do realise you're talking to a vested shareholder who's living off the dividends that complex 'earnings' generate right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Do u all remember how I've tried to tell u how rotten the CIA can be or is? Well the following link tells all and that the CIA connection the so-called Russia hacking which NEVER occurred, at least by the Russia. Talk about blackmail! http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-soft-coup-collapses-russia-did-not-hack-cia-bluffing-blackmail-revealed-what-next/5567311 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segnosaur Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 4:43 PM, betsy said: It's not because Putin likes Trump. It's because Putin hates Hillary! Putin had accused Hillary Clinton of interfering with Russia's election! http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153 First of all, Putin didn't accuse Clinton of interfering in the election. (At least not according to the article you posted.) He was complaining because Clinton suggested afterwards that the vote wasn't fair. So, you fail at basic reading comprehension. As for the election itself, from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2012#Claims_of_electoral_irregularities International observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) found that although all competitors had access to the media, Putin was given clear prominence. Strict candidate registration requirements also limited "genuine competition"....Allegations were made that Putin supporters had been driven around in coaches in order to vote for him in multiple constituencies (which is known as carousel voting). These practices were documented by video monitoring systems installed on most voting stations So the problem was not that the U.S. interfered in the Russian election, its that the Russian election was flawed, and Clinton pointed that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Please do not drift the thread, and always question sources in a civil manner: RationalWiki says, about Globalresearch: Quote Globalresearch is an anti-"Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It's basically the equivalent to Infowars or WND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Topaz Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Michael, let be clear, today when it comes to the "news" who really knows what's true and what's fake? When I post an news item, I believe its 50/50 true UNTIL I KNOW different BUT IF this news was true, its explains a lot about how todays governments run their governments and as citizens we really should ?? every state that comes out, agree??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Hi Topaz, since you're not gathering information first hand, trust and consensus will play a role. Trusting sources in general is a topic for another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 So just to be clear, Global Research is to be treated the same as the BBC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroKrym Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 TAURIdA - FREEd POLITICAL EURO ZONE ! CRIMEA POSSIBLE to still SALVAGE! EUROVISION IN #EUROCRIMEA ! TROOPS BEING WITHDRAWN, EURO INTRODUCED! Better a small earthquake, than great war. Or? ... http://eurokrym.ho.ua/01ta/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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