blueblood Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 12 hours ago, BubberMiley said: Are you saying people shouldn't discuss Russian involvement in the election? This position seems to be putting the GOP into much greater disarray than the Democrats. They seem unsure whether they should be loyal to the New King or to the concept of a democratic USA. Fill your boots discuss. Nobody is saying they didn't play silly with computers. However one will never know how much they influenced voters... the gop is fine. Trump is in the driver seat until the winds of change blow and congress asserts itself. the democrats keep blaming racism and all kinds of isms instead of themselves ignoring the economy and worrying too much on social engineering. Oops!! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
BubberMiley Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 8 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: As far as this woman's comments being "intimidating" or "violent", that's not really your decision (or mine), that is the decision of those she is addressing. I know you've been luring me into this argument for some time, clearly trying to change the topic and discuss what is and what is not intimidating, but that's not really up to us. I've seen interviews with students and I've seen the videos, and if the witnesses say this woman was trying to intimidate, then I can see their point. You declared her comments were violent and intimidating. I asked what was violent and intimidating, and you say you've seen the videos but "it's not really up to us" to decide what is violent and intimidating. You said she got "in the ring". I showed how the mob forced her in the ring by recording her non-violent, unintimidating comments and freaking out over them. You now say the natural world doesn't care how she got in the ring, but nevertheless, if she got death threats or "whatever societal blowback", she deserves it. I can see why the GOP is in disarray. The authoritarians are taking over the asylum. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 7 hours ago, blueblood said: Fill your boots discuss. Nobody is saying they didn't play silly with computers. However one will never know how much they influenced voters... the gop is fine. Trump is in the driver seat until the winds of change blow and congress asserts itself. To your chagrin, Graham and McCain don't seem to be letting the treasonous collusion with Russia slide. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
dialamah Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 7 hours ago, blueblood said: Fill your boots discuss. Nobody is saying they didn't play silly with computers. However one will never know how much they influenced voters... Someone broke into my house! But it's ok because I'm not sure if they took anything. Riiiiiight. There was a time when this kind of insult to America would not have gone unchallenged by any American, let alone the President-elect. I wonder how many countries are watching Trump's actions and firing up their own hackers? Quote
Smallc Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 On 12/29/2016 at 0:14 AM, sharkman said: The system is faulty for those in denial only. Reality is still too painful for leftwing extremists and the like. Doesn't it seem strange that Clinton lost whilst getting pretty much the same number of votes as Obama in 2012? Quote
sharkman Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 No. Simply looking at the numbers tells you that California and New York skewed the popular results. What left extremists are saying is that California and New York should be allowed to dictate to the rest of the country. And that is exactly what their voting system was designed to prevent. Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 I like how the belief that Trump won a majority in every state but New York and California has gathered so much steam among those who don't have a clue how the system works. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Smallc Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 It's crazy that Clinton won by 3M votes, but Trump beat her by 80K. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Smallc said: It's crazy that Clinton won by 3M votes, but Trump beat her by 80K. Some actually real live Americans...perhaps. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 40 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Some actually real live Americans...perhaps. Yeah, and more real live Americans voted for Clinton. Quote
?Impact Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It did work for Trump....the "deplorables" elected him president. Democrats were punished. Don't worry, Democrats will survive. After 4 years the deplorables will be in far worse shape then they are today, the only problem is they will be too stupid to realize why. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Posted December 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Don't worry, Democrats will survive. After 4 years the deplorables will be in far worse shape then they are today, the only problem is they will be too stupid to realize why. I certainly hope the Democratic party does survive, but they are the ones in worse shape today. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
sharkman Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Smallc said: It's crazy that Clinton won by 3M votes, but Trump beat her by 80K. Well that's the thing. She didn't win anything by 3 million votes. Again, having California dictate to the other 49 states who should be the president is not how their system is designed. Quote
?Impact Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, sharkman said: Well that's the thing. She didn't win anything by 3 million votes. Again, having California dictate to the other 49 states who should be the president is not how their system is designed. Except she didn't only win the popular vote in California, but don't let real facts get in the way of your fiction. Stop fabricating stories that she lost in 49 states, because that is far, far from the truth. Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 19 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Except she didn't only win the popular vote in California, but don't let real facts get in the way of your fiction. Stop fabricating stories that she lost in 49 states, because that is far, far from the truth. They read this article and, because they are low information, then believe that 49 states voted for Trump. http://dailycallout.com/election-results-reveal-without-california-trump-wins-popular-vote-49-states-combined/ Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
OftenWrong Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, BubberMiley said: They read this article and, because they are low information, then believe that 49 states voted for Trump. http://dailycallout.com/election-results-reveal-without-california-trump-wins-popular-vote-49-states-combined/ Talking about something that's already a done deal and won't be changed, is even lower information. Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Talking about something that's already a done deal and won't be changed, is even lower information. That doesn't make any sense. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Smallc Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, sharkman said: Well that's the thing. She didn't win anything by 3 million votes. She won the popular vote. She lost the election. That's a travesty. Edited December 30, 2016 by Smallc Quote
OftenWrong Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: That doesn't make any sense. It will make sense to you eventually... when Donald Trump takes office. Quote
sharkman Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, ?Impact said: Except she didn't only win the popular vote in California, but don't let real facts get in the way of your fiction. Stop fabricating stories that she lost in 49 states, because that is far, far from the truth. No, I didn't say that she lost in 49 states, read more carefully. I said that California should not be allowed to dictate their will to the other 49 states. In saying that, I am not speaking about the election in particular, but any preference California has about anything. Quote
Omni Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 42 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: It will make sense to you eventually... when Donald Trump takes office. I will agree with you there that "even lower information" will become ever more apparent when Trump takes office. Quote
betsy Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Obama is not making a graceful exit. He's thudding on his butt as he nears the exit door. With his latest fiasco regarding Putin - boy, Obama's becoming a laughing stock. He's behaving like a woman scorned! Maybe, he'll try to crash the Inauguration ceremony to squeak his last words in? Edited December 30, 2016 by betsy Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 30, 2016 Report Posted December 30, 2016 Really it takes two to tango. Trump and Obama both are noted dancers and they make a nice couple. What is not in dispute is that the presidency's relationship to elections has forever changed. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
BubberMiley Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, betsy said: Obama is not making a graceful exit. He's thudding on his butt as he nears the exit door. Are you saying the U.S. should bend over and take it when an unfriendly foreign government interferes in its election? Why wouldn't he act like "a woman scorned" in defence of his country? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
WestCoastRunner Posted December 31, 2016 Report Posted December 31, 2016 18 minutes ago, betsy said: Obama is not making a graceful exit. He's thudding on his butt as he nears the exit door. With his latest fiasco regarding Putin - boy, Obama's becoming a laughing stock. Why do you consider it a fiasco? Your beloved GOP didn't think he was strong enough against Putin. Is that why it's a fiasco? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
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