Rue Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The evidence has been assessed and found wanting How is that possible? The US Republican Senators refuse to hear evidence and witnesses. How can they assess something they refuse to hear? More to the point, as to the evidence they were given, what damn difference does it now make? The US Senators all made it clear before they assessed anything they had already made up their minds that they would protect Trump regardless of what the evidence showed. Edited January 31, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) ... Edited January 31, 2020 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rue said: How is that possible? The US Republican Senators refuse to hear evidence and witnesses. They heard all the witnesses that House Democrats called and all the evidence that was presented in those hearings. If the House wants to gather more evidence they are free to do so, it is not the Senate's job to do the House's job for them, especially if they don't want to. Edited January 31, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: They heard all the witnesses that House Democrats called and all the evidence that was presented in those hearings. If the House wants to gather more evidence they are free to do so, it is not the Senate's job to do the House's job for them. No one asked the Senate to do the job of the House of Reps. That would make no sense. The "jobs" or roles in the impeachment process are completely different. All anyone has asked is for the Republican Senators to do their job. They said they will not because they feel their partisan views give them justification NOT to do their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Rue said: No one asked the Senate to do the job of the House of Reps. That would make no sense. The "jobs" or roles in the impeachment process are completely different. All anyone has asked is for the Republican Senators to do their job. They said they will not because they feel their partisan views give them justification NOT to do their jobs. You want to hear more witnesses? That's on House Democrats, they can do so at anytime. Edited January 31, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Rue said: Well as the song goes...look at all the monkeys sitting in a row Yes...look at all of them...from the 2016 election: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes...look at all of them...from the 2016 election: Damn deplorable fly-over knuckle draggin' such and suches. Don Lemon knows what they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Rue said: How is that possible? The US Republican Senators refuse to hear evidence and witnesses. How can they assess something they refuse to hear? More to the point, as to the evidence they were given, what damn difference does it now make? The US Senators all made it clear before they assessed anything they had already made up their minds that they would protect Trump regardless of what the evidence showed. They heard 17 witnesses talk about hearsay and presumptions, Bolton giving his presumptions wouldn't have made a lick of difference. That said, I would've loved seeing each side call 4 or 5 witnesses (whoever that might be), but the dems chose to nix that idea because they didn't want to allow the repubs to call any witnesses at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just to reinforce Bush- Cheney's astute obsevation of Canadians' interest in the politics of the United States, we have 1815 more days to be interested in President Trump's administration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 President Trump has gotten a job approval bump from all the excitement in Washington: Trump Job Approval at Personal Best 49% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Trump probably didn't write this, but he delivered it well at the end of the SOTU address: Quote ...America is the place where anything can happen. America is the place where anyone can rise. Here, on this land, on this soil, on this continent, the most incredible dreams come true. This nation is our canvas and this country is our masterpiece. We look at tomorrow and see a limited frontiers just waiting to be explored. Our brightest discoveries are not yet known. Our most thrilling stories are not yet told. Our grandest journeys are not yet made. The American age, the American epic, the American adventure has only just begun. Our spirit is still young. The sun is still rising. God's grace is still shining. My fellow Americans, the best is yet to come. Thank you. Thank you very much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Rush Limbaugh must be wondering if he's already in Heaven its gotten so right wing out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 11:35 AM, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes...look at all of them...from the 2016 election: thanks for the map... now we know where all the corn fields are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump probably didn't write this, but he delivered it well at the end of the SOTU address: 11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: ...America is the place where anything can happen. America is the place where anyone can rise. Here, on this land, on this soil, on this continent, the most incredible dreams come true. This nation is our canvas and this country is our masterpiece. We look at tomorrow and see a limited frontiers just waiting to be explored. Our brightest discoveries are not yet known. Our most thrilling stories are not yet told. Our grandest journeys are not yet made. The American age, the American epic, the American adventure has only just begun. Our spirit is still young. The sun is still rising. God's grace is still shining. My fellow Americans, the best is yet to come. Thank you. Thank you very much. word is that he did write this... and then the speech writer simply replaced the word "Trump" with the word "American". "The Trump age, the Trump epic, the Trump adventure has only just begun." Edited February 5, 2020 by godzilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, godzilla said: word is that he did write this... and then the speech writer simply replaced the word "Trump" with the word "American". Fake news...the speechwriters have been identified as Vince Haley and Ross Worthington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-donald-trumps-latest-travel-bans-are-cruel-and-senseless-and-an/ Such nobility and decency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-donald-trumps-latest-travel-bans-are-cruel-and-senseless-and-an/ Such nobility and decency... Good enough for FDR...good enough for Trump. See Article 2 to the U.S. Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Good enough for FDR...good enough for Trump. See Article 2 to the U.S. Constitution. Now you are putting Trump on the same level as FDR and measures taken during WW2.. Wow you really are drinkin that cult koolaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 hours ago, godzilla said: thanks for the map... now we know where all the corn fields are. Now I know where to get a coffee from a true B.L.A.rista. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Rue said: Now you are putting Trump on the same level as FDR and measures taken during WW2.. Wow you really are drinkin that cult koolaid. Wrong...FDR did many more things that were far more aggressive and discriminatory...because he could. Backed up by the Supreme Court. Donald Trump is POTUS...get over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Wrong...FDR did many more things that were far more aggressive and discriminatory...because he could. Backed up by the Supreme Court. Donald Trump is POTUS...get over it. Totally different context. The bar has been lowered for sure. Nevertheless the Pied Piper has his followers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Totally different context. The bar has been lowered for sure. Nevertheless the Pied Piper has his followers... Seriously ? You think FDR was "noble" for interning thousands of Japanese Americans during WW2 ? Denying welfare benefits to blacks ? Nationalizing industry (fascism) ? The bar has always been low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Seriously ? You think FDR was "noble" for interning thousands of Japanese Americans during WW2 ? Denying welfare benefits to blacks ? Nationalizing industry (fascism) ? The bar has always been low. Nationalizing industry can be necessary for the war effort and in times of economic crisis. Interning Japanese Americans wasn’t right but seemed like a good idea at the time because of possible spying. The treatment of POW’s by the Japanese was terrible. Denying welfare benefits to blacks is obviously terrible. Again though, context: The US south was segregated and there was widespread acceptance of lower standards for blacks. Wrong and unfair but in keeping with the values of the times. FDR also brought in a lot of benefits for workers and put the country to work during the Depression. Oh yeah, also he played a major role in ending WW2 and defeating the Nazis, so there’s that. Americans don’t face hardships like that today, not even close. It seems that Trump has shifted from faith-based immigration policy to race-based policy. So now an honest question: Is there anything to these “security” concerns? If Canada steps in to be the accepting country and welcome people from these four African countries, should we be worried? I don’t have any problem with letting in good hard working and skilled people from any country within the bounds of what Canada can absorb, but how legit is the new travel ban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Americans don’t face hardships like that today, not even close. It seems that Trump has shifted from faith-based immigration policy to race-based policy. ...and many Americans want to keep it that way in age of terrorism and illegals. That's what helped to elect Trump in the first place. If a nation cannot control its borders, then it ceases to be sovereign. The same battle rages in Canada. Quote So now an honest question: Is there anything to these “security” concerns? If Canada steps in to be the accepting country and welcome people from these four African countries, should we be worried? I don’t have any problem with letting in good hard working and skilled people from any country within the bounds of what Canada can absorb, but how legit is the new travel ban? The travel ban is for the U.S., not Canada. Supreme Court has already upheld the authority to ban travel from nations where citizens cannot be adequately vetted. There is no right for non-citizens to enter the U.S., not even from Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 All I know is that the Leftist/Democrat implosion is almost as good as election day previous. So many blows in one week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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