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Sadly it’s not just that! I mocked them last time, when the British guy was having a near meltdown that Trump was responsible for all the worlds ills. Couldn’t stand it anymore I guess, I had to say something. 

Interestingly, the young Chinese guy thought what I said was funny. The other Canadian lads, not so much.

Doesn’t matter, I don’t need them to be my friend. And I never discuss it when Donald Trump wins, because I know it triggers them. I just smile when reading my cell phone, in the lunch room. That kind of self-satisfied grin that says... thanks Donald Trump. :D

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On a more serious note and all kidding aside,  in regards to economic policies, and purely economic policies, any President inherits markets and conditions beyond their control and then is surrounded by a network of agencies and bureaucracies that engage in disjointed, fragmented creation and implementation of economic policies which may or may not have the effects they intend to. You can only try implement them into the market place, but then their actual application and subsequent transformation into planned new approaches is never what it was intended to be. The very nature of trade and market places distorts directives particularly by those within the markets creating counter measures to avoid it using loopholes.

It is naïve to think any leader of any country can control his or her economy. Even the dictator in China has this monolith Communist Party apparatus to deal with on any policy change.

So without being partisan I would say any US President faces challenges with the economy and as much as each President tries to sound like they are different they are not. The fact is Reagan, Bush Sr. and Jr., Obama and now Trump are NOT any different when it comes to using government spending to try inject fuel into the economy thereby creating huge deficits.

Those deficits are what is at the root of all the economic challenges the coming generations will be stuck with due to our present day politicians thinking about now not the future.

http://www.oecd.org/newsroom/amid-strong-outlook-for-us-economy-risks-abound.htm

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Just now, OftenWrong said:

Sadly it’s not just that! I mocked them last time, when the British guy was having a near meltdown that Trump was responsible for all the worlds ills. Couldn’t stand it anymore I guess, I had to say something. 

Interestingly, the young Chinese guy thought what I said was funny. The other Canadian lads, not so much.

Doesn’t matter, I don’t need them to be my friend. And I never discuss it when Donald Trump wins, because I know it triggers them. I just smile when reading my cell phone, in the lunch room. That kind of self-satisfied grin that says... thanks Donald Trump. :D

Well screw him. Politics should all be done  tongue n cheek. Anyone who really gets their nose out of joint is an idiot.  

Now will you come get yer boys Wes and Shady and that redneck BC.  They are at my door with pitchforks and burning torches screaming at me to come out and play. 

Hey seriously no one could have predicted the last 3 years and no one can predict the next 6 months or so. With Trump literally anything could happen an as well, no one saw the corona virus issue impacting on the Chinese economy as it now appears to  be doing.

I will also say this, when the decision was taken to take out Iran's head of military, something clearly Obama would not have done it. That move appears to have sent a strong stabilizing message although of course time will tell.Most  I always argue do not under-estimate a US leader needing to look like a military leader at all times. The US is a state predicated on military traditions and history and attached to a warrior mentality. A President who plays that, wins. If you are perceived as weak, like Carter was, because any kind of military action failed like it did with Carter, out you go. Obama's decision to take out Ben Laden was done to make Hilary look tough to counter the fiasco in Libya. Trump being elected was a backlash to Obama foreign policies that made the US as a world power look impotent and weak.

However Trump as had friction with his military since elected over Putin, Erdogan and former military he hired and fired including Friday. Its his military intelligence network that was his biggest ally countering the civilian intelligence agencies Obama created within the FBI, Homeland Security and CIA.  I think Trump may have pissed off the support he had from the US military network who may now see any civilian other than Trump easier to deal with.  I don't think the trip of Pence to the Pope was a coincidence. Someone signaled Trump up high he's expendable if he keeps acting crazy and that was what that trip was about, to remind him of a back up plan. 

I think some leaders can really start to believe their own hype and in the US you do that, you can easily die in a car accident, of natural causes, choking on  a bone, getting shot by a lone gyn man, etc.

I also note even Trumps Secret Service was all changed with a story of financial bribery and corruption but when you remove someone's body guards and replace them, that's  not a good sign if you are Trump. That may also have been a warning to him. Who knows.

Yah I know...I may sound a tad conspiracy nut but I just don't think a guy like him can do all the mad things he does without behind the scenes players protecting him. Who they are we will never know and when he finally goes too far, no one knows.

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51 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Sadly it’s not just that! I mocked them last time, when the British guy was having a near meltdown that Trump was responsible for all the worlds ills. Couldn’t stand it anymore I guess, I had to say something. 

Interestingly, the young Chinese guy thought what I said was funny. The other Canadian lads, not so much.

Doesn’t matter, I don’t need them to be my friend. And I never discuss it when Donald Trump wins, because I know it triggers them. I just smile when reading my cell phone, in the lunch room. That kind of self-satisfied grin that says... thanks Donald Trump. :D

 

OftenWrong in the lunchroom...

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19 hours ago, eyeball said:

You're right...I'm so sorry.  I should have come clean with you a long time ago.

I get my news from my TV, the Internet, newspapers, poster's links in this forum.  I have at least 16 news channels on my cable subscription. These include Fox, Global, CTV, CBC, Chek, NBC, Euronews, BBC, Al Jazeera and others. I tried to delete CNN but our cable provider doesn't believe in free speech so...effing deep-state...its everywhere.

I occasionally browse our stores magazine rack's which are filled with all sorts news sources and I also have a subscription to National Geographic.

If there are any of these sources that you know are part of the hate Trump Media mob could you please point them out and I'll stop watching them?  I'd really like to go to bed at night with a heart that isn't troubled.

Thanks so much.  BTW how long do I need EFNT? The enforcement clamps really hurt my eyelids.

If you watched that much news and you were paying attention then you’d know by now that most of those are mostly fiction & garbage. 
 

They run some truthful stories about things that support their narrative or are neutral, then they spin, omit and lie their way through the rest of the hour. 

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21 hours ago, taxme said:

Talking to someone like Rue is just an exercise in futility. Some people are just plain clueless about everything but yet they try and pretend all the time that they know all. Just my opinion of course. ;)

TBH I’m just guessing that there’s a lot of pressure on Jews to be politically correct because there’s so much anti-Israel screed making the rounds on social media and in public protests by bigoted minorities & their ignorant followers. 
 

Palestinian refugee camps exist for the sole purpose of fomenting hatred against Israel/Jews, our own government tolerates hate rallies against them, so Jews can’t take any controversial stands on hot topics or they just propagate the negative stereotypes.


For anyone to be publicly perceived as supporting Trump can be very unpopular, and the Jewish community can’t afford to lose any support. 

I don’t blame Rue for walking the line, but for anyone who’s not a Jew to stand firmly on the side of ignorance re: all things Trump is just gutless. 

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6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you watched that much news and you were paying attention then you’d know by now that most of those are mostly fiction & garbage.

Which is why I like as wide a field of sources as possible - then I can sift thru them to get a sense of the bigger mosaic/picture and cross check that with what I know and hear friends or associates talking about and so on. There is a process here, l'm not just letting garbage and fiction flow thru me without filtering it out. Even a sponge has to do that or they'll soon poison themselves. 

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They run some truthful stories about things that support their narrative or are neutral, then they spin, omit and lie their way through the rest of the hour. 

You need to quantify this somehow. Who exactly is this "THEY" you're talking about, the Media Mob or Media Party and larger organization known as the Deepstate that Donald Trump says is subverting his legitimate governance of the country? There was actually a headline on a news story I saw last night that talked about Trump dismantling the Deepstate. What exactly is going on here? Garbage, fiction, spin or actual facts substantiated by neutral investigative journalism?

You seem to think you know. 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH I’m just guessing that there’s a lot of pressure on Jews to be politically correct because there’s so much anti-Israel screed making the rounds on social media and in public protests by bigoted minorities & their ignorant followers. 
 

Palestinian refugee camps exist for the sole purpose of fomenting hatred against Israel/Jews, our own government tolerates hate rallies against them, so Jews can’t take any controversial stands on hot topics or they just propagate the negative stereotypes.


For anyone to be publicly perceived as supporting Trump can be very unpopular, and the Jewish community can’t afford to lose any support. 

I don’t blame Rue for walking the line, but for anyone who’s not a Jew to stand firmly on the side of ignorance re: all things Trump is just gutless. 

 

When I walk the line about being a pro-white patriotic Canadian nationalist I am called a racist, Nazi or a white supremo by Rue which I am not any one of those. He is the one that says that he believes in tolerance but yet all I get from him is intolerance. I have no time for that guy anymore. He has insulted and offended me too many times for me to count. He despises me because I dare to question or challenge anything that has to do with Judaism or Israel. It is obvious that he thinks that those two mentioned are off topic here. 

He won't even answer me when I only asked him as to why does he think that Jews are so despised these days or why did Hitler appear to despise them also. Simple questions, don't you think? All he can do instead is get all emotional on me and appears to enjoy throwing insults at me rather than answer any questions I ask of him.  As far as I am concerned, I think that he could be one of those Zionist supremacists.  Hey, one never knows, eh? 

Can you say for sure that those Palestinian camps do exist for the sole purpose of fomenting hatred towards Jews? Those camps exist because the Palestinians have always been there. It's my personal belief that it is Israel that is the problem, not the Palestinians. when Israel keeps taking land away from the Palestinians, what else can one expect from them but hatred and violence. If I moved into your home, and kept parts of it for myself, would you be happy about that? Personally, I do believe that the ordinary Jew is being used by the globalist Zionists for some unknown nefarious reason in my opinion. My own government allows and tolerates hate rallies against my nationalist people. We are not allowed to express our opinions and points of view in public. If Jews are targets today, then I will ask you the same question then? Why is this so? 

Trump is very pro-Israel. The Republicans have always been pro-Israel. The democrats appear to have always been somewhat anti-Israel from what I have noticed so far. Just saying. 

 

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Which is why I like as wide a field of sources as possible - then I can sift thru them to get a sense of the bigger mosaic/picture and cross check that with what I know and hear friends or associates talking about and so on. There is a process here, l'm not just letting garbage and fiction flow thru me without filtering it out.

Good strategy, but questionable results at best in your case. Apparently you're not so great at sifting through the garbage, then again, most people aren't. Clearly you don't take negative stories about Trump with as much of a grain of salt as you should, considering the media's obvious bias against him, as you buy into obvious Anti-Trump propaganda all the time. 

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2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Clearly you don't take negative stories about Trump with as much of a grain of salt as you should, considering the media's obvious bias against him, as you buy into obvious Anti-Trump propaganda all the time. 

Don't worry I've been watching Trump's positive media too and especially that which reinforces what he says about the Deepstate Media Party/Mob.  I'm assuming I shouldn't be taking that with a grain of salt at all and doing that keeps bringing me back to an inevitable question; when will we be seeing actual operatives being arrested and the Deepstate's apparatus dismantled? This threat appears to be much graver than the communist scare during which the government mobilized resources to...arrest operatives and dismantle their networks. Same thing happened with terrorism.

I don't recall any terrorists or communists ever undermining America's government to the extent the term Deepstate implies.  Shouldn't America's heart be a lot more troubled with this state of affairs? 

 

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7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Which is why I like as wide a field of sources as possible - then I can sift thru them to get a sense of the bigger mosaic/picture and cross check that with what I know and hear friends or associates talking about and so on. There is a process here, l'm not just letting garbage and fiction flow thru me without filtering it out. Even a sponge has to do that or they'll soon poison themselves. 

You need to quantify this somehow. Who exactly is this "THEY" you're talking about, the Media Mob or Media Party and larger organization known as the Deepstate that Donald Trump says is subverting his legitimate governance of the country? There was actually a headline on a news story I saw last night that talked about Trump dismantling the Deepstate. What exactly is going on here? Garbage, fiction, spin or actual facts substantiated by neutral investigative journalism?

You seem to think you know. 

That’s a really sweet story eyeball, but you’re not fooling anyone. You would know that CNN is not a news source if you actually looked into their track record for accuracy.

 

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6 hours ago, taxme said:

 

He won't even answer me when I only asked him as to why does he think that Jews are so despised these days or why did Hitler appear to despise them also. Simple questions, don't you think? All he can do instead is get all emotional on me and appears to enjoy throwing insults at me rather than answer any questions I ask of him.  As far as I am concerned, I think that he could be one of those Zionist supremacists.  Hey, one never knows, eh? 

 

Those are pretty personal questions. Is he supposed to give some really good reasons why Jews were hated? 

The Germans actually were hosed after WWI. A generation of people grew up fighting in the mud of Paschendaele just like Canadians did, but on the other side, they were forced into abject poverty. They were looking for a scapegoat and it turned out to be the Jews. “You can always convince one half of the poor people to kill the other half.”

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Can you say for sure that those Palestinian camps do exist for the sole purpose of fomenting hatred towards Jews? Those camps exist because the Palestinians have always been there. It's my personal belief that it is Israel that is the problem, not the Palestinians. when Israel keeps taking land away from the Palestinians, what else can one expect from them but hatred and violence. If I moved into your home, and kept parts of it for myself, would you be happy about that? Personally, I do believe that the ordinary Jew is being used by the globalist Zionists for some unknown nefarious reason in my opinion. My own government allows and tolerates hate rallies against my nationalist people. We are not allowed to express our opinions and points of view in public. If Jews are targets today, then I will ask you the same question then? Why is this so? 

Trump is very pro-Israel. The Republicans have always been pro-Israel. The democrats appear to have always been somewhat anti-Israel from what I have noticed so far. Just saying. 

Yes the camps are there to foment hatred. That many people have been resettled over and over again in the past 70 years. Refugees look for a home. They don’t stay in one place and protest for more than 3 generations. Those are protesters. 

When the muslims got Pakistan there were no refugee camps, because 10M people were massacred. Look it up. The people who say that Israel is bad because of what happened to the Palestinians but don’t care about what happened to the Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan are just bigots. Pakistan killed a further 3M in 1970. Look that up too.

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2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That’s a really sweet story eyeball, but you’re not fooling anyone. You would know that CNN is not a news source if you actually looked into their track record for accuracy.

Well I really don't know why you would think I'm trying to fool you. CNN is pretty clearly biased against Trump anyone can see that - I certainly don't have any particular reason to subscribe to their views above anyone else's. Like I said I rarely if ever watch it, why bother when so many Fox News shows give a daily recap of whatever it is that CNN and the rest of the Media Party/Mob is reporting that day?

Why is Fox News is the only media outlet that seems to be concerned about how the Deepstate Media Party/Mob is undermining Trump's presidency along with the nation's values?  I'm still at a loss to understand why no one is taking any sort of action against that. Why would Fox News be the only one's citing it's insidious poisonous presence on an almost daily basis? However neutral, fair and balanced Fox is it doesn't seem very fair that they should be the only one's to carry this burden.  These must be  terrifying times to be a Fox News investigative journalist knowing how deep the state runs.

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These guys just want to keep drinking the Kool Aid.  I don’t even judge it.  Put on the uniform and stop asking questions.  It could be worse....That’s where we’re at.  Going forward there are no bigger aspirations.  Keep taxes low and keep out the riff raff.  Everything else is fake news from socialists.  

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16 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

If you don't think Trump had a good week, you simply aren't paying attention and you want to believe that every week of his presidency is bad for him.

No it simply means I clearly don't  evaluate good by whatever keeps Trump in power.

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19 hours ago, taxme said:

 

When I walk the line about being a pro-white patriotic Canadian nationalist I am called a racist, Nazi or a white supremo by Rue which I am not any one of those. He is the one that says that he believes in tolerance but yet all I get from him is intolerance. I have no time for that guy anymore. He has insulted and offended me too many times for me to count. He despises me because I dare to question or challenge anything that has to do with Judaism or Israel. It is obvious that he thinks that those two mentioned are off topic here. 

He won't even answer me when I only asked him as to why does he think that Jews are so despised these days or why did Hitler appear to despise them also. Simple questions, don't you think? All he can do instead is get all emotional on me and appears to enjoy throwing insults at me rather than answer any questions I ask of him.  As far as I am concerned, I think that he could be one of those Zionist supremacists.  Hey, one never knows, eh? 

Can you say for sure that those Palestinian camps do exist for the sole purpose of fomenting hatred towards Jews? Those camps exist because the Palestinians have always been there. It's my personal belief that it is Israel that is the problem, not the Palestinians. when Israel keeps taking land away from the Palestinians, what else can one expect from them but hatred and violence. If I moved into your home, and kept parts of it for myself, would you be happy about that? Personally, I do believe that the ordinary Jew is being used by the globalist Zionists for some unknown nefarious reason in my opinion. My own government allows and tolerates hate rallies against my nationalist people. We are not allowed to express our opinions and points of view in public. If Jews are targets today, then I will ask you the same question then? Why is this so? 

Trump is very pro-Israel. The Republicans have always been pro-Israel. The democrats appear to have always been somewhat anti-Israel from what I have noticed so far. Just saying. 

 

 

In regards to your first paragraph let me start with this pictorial aid:

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In specific regard to your statement: "He despises me because I dare to question or challenge anything that has to do with Judaism or Israel."  To clarify In fact have contempt for your words not because you question anything to do with Judaism or Israel but because you use the pretext of "questioning" Judaism and Israel to express hateful stereotypes of both as evidenced by your continuous comments including this one in your latest response, "He won't even answer me when I only asked him as to why does he think that Jews are so despised these days or why did Hitler appear to despise them also. Simple questions, don't you think?"  When you have asked such questions in previous posts I responded to them directly as I do now and stated they  presuppose there are good reasons to  hate Jews and given  in past responses when you raised these questions you did so in the context of first stating  there are good reasons to hate Jews and Hitler and others have/had good reason to hate Jews I responded by saying your questions were rhetorical, i.e., statements. You don't care for an answer-you are in fact stating yet again you have good reason to hate Jews. The key is your use of the word "hate" in your questions.

You asked: "Can you say for sure that those Palestinian camps do exist for the sole purpose of fomenting hatred towards Jews? " What I can say is it is public record is that the Arab league stated it would imprison Palestinians in camps after its armies were unable to prevent an Israeli state in 1949 and hold them in those camps as a reminder to the world that until they undo the state of Israel they would keep Palestinians hostages in those camps. That is an historic fact just as it is  historic fact that It was the Arab League who imprisoned Palestinians and it was and remains Arab League nations that refused and refuse to take in any Palestinians as citizens even though they started the war that displaced them and they were th ones to tell them to leave  the area  until they could exterminate all the Jews. Still  to this day with the exception of one country Jordan, which declared itself a Jewish free Palestinian state and offered immediate citizenship to Palestinians no Arab League country takes in Palestinians as citizens while those Palestinian Muslims who chose to stay in Israel do not wisht o leave or give up their citizenship and have access to the same hospitals, government services and legal rights as any non Mulsim Israei which is the exact opposite of what has happened to those Jews still living in Muslim states.

Your comment, "Those camps exist because the Palestinians have always been there." is nonsensical. The camps never existed until they were created by the Arab League. In fact the Gaza strip was created as an open air prisoner by Nasser who ridiculed Palestinians and said they would never be allowed in Egypt. As for " always being there", Jewish, Christian and Muslim people have been in the Arabian peninsula for thousands of years. Historically Christians and Muslims proceeded Jews. People descended from  people of the Arabian peninsula were called Arabs, short for Arabian Peninsula people and so they could have been of any religion. The descendants of these people today are most likely to be Beduins or those descended from the semites which would be Jews or some people today who could be Christian or Muslim.  In fact most Christian and Muslims identifying themselves as Palestinian  today are not-they are descended from Muslims or Christians who moved to the West Bank or Gaza when the British in the 20's  and after no different than Jews who moved to Palestine in that era. The term Palestine is a Greek term and no it was never always there it only became called that as a geographic zone by Greeks and then Romans when they coined the phrase as a geographic term not as a national or state term. It referred to a geographic area nothing else. It only became used to describe a people without a country by Arafat  after the black Sabbath uprising and Arafat failed to kill King Hussein and seize Jordan and was exiled to Tunisia. Until then Arafat, the Arab League and all Palestinian nationalists ridiculed the concept of a Palestinian being a national identity. So it is in fact a recent political term/

As for criticizing Israeli state policies as to settlements on the West bank or engaging in policies that may exasperate relations between Palestinians and Israelis, no one is more of a critical of  that, then ironically JEWISH Israelis and their press. The fact someone challenges Israeli state policies is not the issue-using that as a platform or pretext to then go on to justify hating all Israelis for existing as Israelis and all Jews for existing as Jews is what is challenged.

You asked this question:  "My own government allows and tolerates hate rallies against my nationalist people. We are not allowed to express our opinions and points of view in public. If Jews are targets today, then I will ask you the same question then? Why is this so? "

First off as long as you keep using ambiguous terms like "nationalist people" to hide your true identity by deliberately removing the word white you simply show how you hide your agenda  and  make a mockery of your attempts to pose as a victrim of political discrimination. Next, and as you are well aware, if a Jew, a Muslim, a Christian, a person with pale or dark skin in Canada wants to march and express their opinions, subject to municipal by-laws requiring permits for traffic control and fire and emergency  safety they are allowed as this is a guaranteed freedom under the Charter of Rights. However if anyone in Canada wishes to march and express terminology that defines identified people as inferior or superior based on skin colour or religion as your "nationalist people"  have done, they can depending on the context of their words, cross the line and engage in hate speech which is a criminal offence. Don't pretend you don't know the difference or why neo Nazis  can't express hatred.

In regards to Trump being  pro-Israel it doesn't mean as a Jew or a Zionist I agree with all his policies and won't criticize him. He also  in the last election welcomed the support of some very vile white supremacist organizations and many of his words to this day appeal to them. Anyone not just Jews including Republicans worry about that:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/who-does-trumps-white-identity-politics-reach/595189/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaign-sees-political-advantage-in-a-divisive-appeal-to-working-class-white-voters/2019/07/26/39234f00-aef1-11e9-8e77-03b30bc29f64_story.html

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-racism-calculated-impulsive-1452337

Finally as for your stating the Democrats have always been "somewhat anti-Israel"  this is a meaningless statement.  t Eleanor Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy,  Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King,  Lyndon Baines Johnson and Bill Clinton to name a few from the past as well as many today  are oppen supporters of Israel. In fact many US elected representatives  Republican and Democrat are and also openly challenge Israeli foreign policies and certain trade policies and support a second Palestinian state on the West Bank. That doesn't make them anti Israel, it just means they are looking out for American interests. That is their mandate.  

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, eyeball said:

Well I really don't know why you would think I'm trying to fool you. CNN is pretty clearly biased against Trump anyone can see that - I certainly don't have any particular reason to subscribe to their views above anyone else's. Like I said I rarely if ever watch it, why bother when so many Fox News shows give a daily recap of whatever it is that CNN and the rest of the Media Party/Mob is reporting that day?

Why is Fox News is the only media outlet that seems to be concerned about how the Deepstate Media Party/Mob is undermining Trump's presidency along with the nation's values?  I'm still at a loss to understand why no one is taking any sort of action against that. Why would Fox News be the only one's citing it's insidious poisonous presence on an almost daily basis? However neutral, fair and balanced Fox is it doesn't seem very fair that they should be the only one's to carry this burden.  These must be  terrifying times to be a Fox News investigative journalist knowing how deep the state runs.

Fox says a lot of things that would open them up to serious libel suits if they were untrue, much like CNN did with Nick Sandman. 

They went after the FBI and top level members with specific claims that could be disproven easily if false. No one said or did squat. Eventually the things that Fox was saying proved themselves out in the IG report or with members of the FBI being demoted or fired. 

If I found Fox news to be lying I’d turn on them in an instant, just like I did with CNN. 

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56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Fox says a lot of things that would open them up to serious libel suits if they were untrue, much like CNN did with Nick Sandman. 

They went after the FBI and top level members with specific claims that could be disproven easily if false. No one said or did squat. Eventually the things that Fox was saying proved themselves out in the IG report or with members of the FBI being demoted or fired. 

If I found Fox news to be lying I’d turn on them in an instant, just like I did with CNN. 

No doubt Trump would too. But by the very same token you just used - if what Fox says about the Deepstate is true then why hasn't Trump ordered the arrest of its operatives? I mean, there must be thousands and thousands of them - this is much much larger than the Chemtrail program wouldn't you think?

Further to the above why isn't Fox News critical about Trump's failure to take action to protect America from this?

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49 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No doubt Trump would too. But by the very same token you just used - if what Fox says about the Deepstate is true then why hasn't Trump ordered the arrest of its operatives? I mean, there must be thousands and thousands of them - this is much much larger than the Chemtrail program wouldn't you think?

Further to the above why isn't Fox News critical about Trump's failure to take action to protect America from this?

I think that the Deep State-type of activities that the FBI was engaging in were exposed. That’s a lot for one administration to tackle. 
 

If Trump gets litigious or goes on a rampage and gets rid of people throughout the CIA, FBi, Homeland, etc all by himself it sets the tone for the next Prez to be an actual dictator. 
 

The role of the media is a very serious part of a healthy democracy imo. Some of the media whipped Americans into a frenzy to go on a wild goose chase, some of the media tipped off actual criminal activity from high within the American power base. Maybe to distract from Biden, Hillary, AG Lynch/Bill, etc. 
 

One thing’s for sure though, CNN did ignore actual crimes and distract Americans from taking notice of them. If I owned a newspaper and I gave a crap about the truth I’d be pretty mad if we missed the whole FBI scandal.  

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25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I think that the Deep State-type of activities that the FBI was engaging in were exposed. That’s a lot for one administration to tackle. 

Don't give me that, American Presidents can snap up millions, billions and trillions to prevent communism and terrorism from sinking roots into the nation besides that what do you think 2nd Amendment folks are for?

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If Trump gets litigious or goes on a rampage and gets rid of people throughout the CIA, FBi, Homeland, etc all by himself it sets the tone for the next Prez to be an actual dictator. 

Or democracy is restored, America is made great and Trump is revered as a hero who's face is carved into Mt. Rushmore.  What makes you think Trump would be all alone on this, isn't the 2nd Amendment something a President can count on when the nation is threatened or under siege?   

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The role of the media is a very serious part of a healthy democracy imo. Some of the media whipped Americans into a frenzy to go on a wild goose chase, some of the media tipped off actual criminal activity from high within the American power base. Maybe to distract from Biden, Hillary, AG Lynch/Bill, etc. 

You're not just describing any normal media when you say some media though - you're talking about the enemy of the legitimate state - the insurgent Media Party/Mob that is part and parcel of an apparently criminal Deepstate. It seems like you're downplaying something, why?
 

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One thing’s for sure though, CNN did ignore actual crimes and distract Americans from taking notice of them. If I owned a newspaper and I gave a crap about the truth I’d be pretty mad if we missed the whole FBI scandal.

Would you ignore these crimes if you were the President?  That would be a serious breach of your oath of office wouldn't you think?

It's not too late, I doubt there's a statute of limitation on treason. 

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15 hours ago, eyeball said:

Is it just me or are right-wingers becoming increasingly uncomfortable with President Trump's deep concerns with the Deepstate?  Why on Earth would they doubt him on this particular issue?

Who are the "right-wingers" that you are talking about? Trump's approval ratings are skyrocketing. The economy is in great shape. Unemployment down. Markets at all time highs. Americans are getting raises. Trump is destroying the deep state. Trump always gets between 20,000-30,000 Trump supporters at his rallies. All democrats get maybe around a 100? It will be four more years for Trump. Fantastic. And here in Canada we have four more years of a prime mistake buffoon. While America grows, Canada falls behind in growth.  ;)

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