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Lost the popular vote in the last two elections.

As voters in a democratic society we are responsible for the actions of the governments we empower. I've suggested outlawing in-camera lobbying to better facilitate the right of Canadians to know what is being discussed in our names behind closed doors where power, influence and wealth mingle. I also think it would do a lot to clean up the misinformation generated by a media that is as in the dark as us and that leaves us divided and inattentive to what's really important not to mention what's actually going on. Further to the above is not just our right to know but our responsibility to know. In actual fact our responsibility precedes our right. It shouldn't be a matter of what Ottawa allows at all and there is something fundamentally flawed in believing or saying it should matter given we're the ones who are empowering Ottawa in the first place. At the end of the day there are 38 million voters in charge of 338 MP's and only 35 of these are Cabinet Members so how hard can it really be to force a better eye on them? I suspect that question will come down to how partisan voters decide to be but before they do it would be wise to perhaps consider that the real divide in Canada is between the powerful and the powerless. Maybe a couple of other better questions for each of us to ask ourselves is whose side am I on and why?

You may have to admit that your a liar, based on several of your comments from jbander's covid thread from this very day.

with Trudeau as Little Lord Fauntleroy.

I hope Polievre takes his rightful place at the top and restores the party’s values. It means scrapping the carbon taxes, one of the reasons fuel and heating prices are through the roof. Our cost of living is growing outrageously high. He’ll need to throw a bone to the tree huggers in BC and the Quebec Hydro nationalists. I think changing the building codes to incorporate solar into new roofs and incentivizing wind, geothermal, and deep water cooling through tax breaks is the way to go. Carbon taxes are punitive to workers who have no choice but to drive. Changing how we build will achieve more for emissions reductions than making fuel unaffordable for people who need it to live and can’t afford an electric vehicle.

Not true at all. I’m triple vaccinated and oppose mandates and restrictions, like many of the protesters. The movement isn’t about the value of vaccination; it’s about government overreach and totalitarian approaches in a liberal-democracy.

There was just an article out that said the pandemic responses have not been governed by the science for quite a while now. Lockdowns, restrictions, passports, etc - those decisions are now being governed by the polls. Politicians are doing what YOU want them to do. All the ones here who keep crowing about how 70% or 80% of Canadians WANT restrictions and lockdowns and segregation - they are the ones keeping this going now. And not a bloody one of them look at the science - they only read what the fear-mongering CTV and CBC and Global tell them. It's getting pathetic. And frustrating. And dangerous.

My wife JUST had a horrible reaction to her third shot. Had to go get her....eyes like pinpricks...cold sweat...vertigo...I can't say I'm happy with the situation. I feel like she was just poisoned by the government. She's very pro-vaxx...doing all that they ask. Now this...

Can you give us a source that proves the entire convoy are right delusional wingnuts, or are you just pulling shit out your ass...thanks for not contributing anything to the topic...

I suppose it pretty much runs along the line: arresting others is fine as they'll never want to arrest me...I'm a good team player.

the shortages will be blamed on the truckers and the unvaccinated Canadians will not side with them they will side with the government you have far too much faith in Canadians very naive wishful thinking is a helluva drug

Trudeau caused this, and he could have rescinded the trucker mandate a week ago and deflated talk of a convoy. Mandating truckers after 2 years is simply stupid. More so in the context of multiple nations easing restrictions. Every time Trudeau vaccine mandates an industry, it automatically creates shortages and crises within that sector. Because 10-15% of the people in any group would rather lose their job than take “experimental gene therapy”. So then those same people have nothing but time on their hands to organize and protest. The medical industry was mandated, creating bed and staff shortages, and now we are going to see food and retail shortages with the trucker mandates. Trudeau knows fully well he’s creating these dumb ass shortages. Then he beaks off in a press conference about the convoy, followed by going into hiding. What a dolt.

I'm glad that there's nothing much of substance to add here. Maybe anonymous "extremists", "racists" and "misogynists" from great leaders and CBC and that would be it. Good to know.

How Canadians really feel ....

He was merely "exposed" to the Rona and says he tested negative but will quarantine anyways. I'm wondering if he mixed up his negative Rona test with his IQ test results.....?

I'm not actually a fan of the way that the Holocaust is 'remembered'. The holocaust wasn't rare or unique, even in the 20th century. It was just one example of something that humans do all too often. When we talk about the holocaust, I think it's really important to think of it as a recurring problem and not a one-off. It's not a "Jew" issue, it's an inhumanity issue.

Trump-dity Trump-dity Trump Trump Trump.

For sure...the Eva Braun effect. But the reality is that we're all being led down the garden path to a place not advertised in the concentration camp brochure.

Honestly, I don't read Canadian news sources much of late. Not in an "echo chamber" I read regularly, daily or almost, news from several international sources, to form a balanced, level and hopefully mostly objective view of the current environment. The problem with Canadian sources is simple: I cannot separate any longer facts, the objective reality and an objective view of it from various and diverse agendas. Not interested in reading between the lines and figuring out motives. Don't care about induced and instilled agendas, however progressive and generally good they sound. I'll just get my news elsewhere. What is happening to journalistic and generally, professional ethics and standard in the country? Does the duty of objective and honest reporting; verification of facts; objectivity and impartiality; prevention of manipulation and misinformation still exist and being fulfilled by the country's news services? The level of degradation in these areas in the recent years has been nothing less than astounding. Is it an exaggeration, not an objective view in itself? What has been your experience, and opinion?

Contribute or you are gone, say go ahead.

The only hysterical one here is you, going on long rants, insulting people, using sources that are regularly shot down.

The hidden truth. A small group making lots of noises. And the social media help them to magnify their protest to represent it much larger than what it really is. The truth is: 90% of Canadian truckers are vaccinated. 90% of Canadians are vaccinated and likely disagree with them. Majority of Canadians are for mandatory vaccination. The silent majority staying at home and watching it through their TV sets while the tiny small minority supporting this come out with flags making lots of noises. They have the right to protest but most Canadians don't support them.

Are you on street corners with that sign?

What do you call a person who insists that Trump's covid shot is a vaccine? What do you call a person who insists that the covid shot is necessary to save the lives of children? What do you call a person who has made declarative statements about covid every day for the past two years and still only has a rudimentary understanding of all the main talking points? What do you call a person who insists that the covid shot is perfectly safe? What do you call an octogenarian who insists that children should take a chance with the vaccine just on the off chance that it helps prevent them from getting covid? FYI your best chance to avoid covid is to think before you vote for people like Cuomo, Pelosi, DeBlasio, Trudeau etc who do literally everything wrong regarding covid. Pelosi: "Hug covid out!" DeBlasio: "Riding the subway like normal is the best thing to do!" Cuomo: "Throw covid-positive people back into the raisin ranch!" Trudeau: "Let infected people fly to Canada and walk around freely until we're saturated with covid, then force Canadians to get vaccine passports!" You'd think that by now, with the benefit of hindsight, leftists would enough to keep their mouths shut and make us all guess how stupid they are, but nope. Still yakkin'. Still exposing their abject stupidity. They literally never learn.

Only the very stupidest people among us believe what you're saying, so, are you a liar or an idiot? FYI only 27 people under 20 years old died of covid since the very beginning, back in Jan of 2020. That's 27 out of about 10,000,000 (over two years, so only 14 per year). https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/ FYI 5 out of every 100,000 Canadians die in car accidents every year. That's 500 people per 10M people PER YEAR (10M is the approximate number of kids in Canada). 80 x as many as covid. Do you think that people should stop allowing kids to go in cars? Do you really want to give all 10M kids the experimental vaccine, even while knowing that the vaccines cause myocarditis? Do you know how dangerous myocarditis is? Do you know that in about 20% of cases it isn't successfully treated? Life is about risk management. Rolling the dice on a 27/10,000,000 chance isn't ideal, but neither is rolling the dice on myocarditis and all of the other long-term side effects that we don't even know about yet. If you want to take the experimental jab to reduce your chance of dying from 14 out of 10,000,000 to 5[?] out of 10,000,000 go for it.

1. Exactly. 2. Perhaps he dislikes the restrictions, mask wearing and shots as much as anyone, but considers these things to be best for the community. And before you go on about how he's a sheeple who believes whatever the media feeds him, that could also be said of everyone on this site who follows and believes all the media that isn't the MSM. 3. Michael is probably the most level-headed posters on here, one who'll acknowledge other's good points, agree where he thinks there's agreement and admit he's wrong. To call him a partisan means you have no idea what he's about.

I dont know.....my nephew and all his friends think this is all BS. The fake passport business is booming amongst young Canadians.

I'm not saying he's deliberately trying to destroy the country, but if he were deliberately trying to destroy the country, what would he be doing differently?

I'm with Yzermanduis19 on this one, Canadians are not the same people they once where. the newer generations want everything laid out for them, they like being supported by government, i could go on but hey they already know. Blame it on the boomers is there moto... This convoy is an attack on the vaccinated, and all their beliefs they been told to have, they will defend it with talk lots of talk... And in a week or so it will be over, nothing would have changed, liberals' will still be in charge, it will be mentioned time and time again by the left as a major victory... and life will go on... a much better protest would have just been to stay home, for a couple of weeks...collect CERB and see if the supply chain gets stressed even more. nothing drives people to action than a food shortage...

Its headed that way because the death rate of Omicron is statistically zero. And I understand this B2 variant we're hearing of is even weaker. If there's another choice...please...let me know. I mean, Mike could just be acting the part of a partisan but...I don't sense that in his writings. More I sense he's unable to, or unwilling to, question the institutional forces like government and media.

Younger Canadians in particular seem rather enchanted with basic fascism having never been face to face with it or those who fought against it.

Until and unless convincing objective evidence is provided, reviewed and discussed would it be too much to ask to qualify it with a brief but informative addition: "to me"?

Yes it will make the more staunch of the freedom haters go wild. I think that would be a good thing. I would encourage them to begin calling people horrid names and choking up visions of Nazi Germany, ASAP. Let Canada see and hear their bilge. Its been slowly making the public sick for quite some time now. The number of vehicles reported will cause disruption for sure. Especially during an Ottawa winter. People in the area will get put out. Some will go see what all the hub-bub is about, and likely find truckers are actually pretty good-hearted folk. Some will likely get their ganders up and confront the truckers. LOL...I might suggest against picking fights with truckers. The Beer Store might do well... In general, I think this will serve to highlight some real complaints that the media has till now, tended to ignore. Canada will see a bunch of rather pleasant folk who provide our national logistics. They'll go to the local grocery store and find, as I have now begun to notice, there really is a shortage for some products and prices are...getting interesting. Pixie-Dust is freaked. Why do you think the poor li'l sweetums got The Rona now? I figure, if he's even half as healthy as I am, he's well over it by now. We'll see if he actually has the leadership qualities to face this demonstration...or at least meet face to face with their organizers. Mobs in the streets are indeed dangerous. And I hope these people know what an opportunity they have here. I hope this goes off completely peacefully, with respect to the protesters. I also think they will be and that it'll be some upidy shithead, or group there-of, that will try to incite a violent reaction. I saw an interesting news report on one of the local stations yesterday. A crew had gone to a parkinglot where convoy supporters were congregated. It seems these convoy supporters didn't have much use for the news guy and his crew. Go figure. There's going to be more of that this weekend as well. It'll be interesting how people react to that.

IFR for seasonal flu is 0.1% IFR for covid is 0.15% Where were these "community values" before covid? There were not restrictions, no lockdowns, no business/school closures, no forced flu shots, no segregating society, no masks, etc for the seasonal flu. We are doing all this for 0.05% increase in IFR. This makes sense to you?

The strongman was always portrayed in history as a dashing ladies man. "All the girls want him."

1. Exactly. Ergo his attempts to look strong shall flop. 2. The one where I linked to the video for you. Remember you were outraged. Even you. What is he doing there, if not channelling Don Trump. "They're frequently racists and misogynists." "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” How great is the leap?

It must be sexual if you think about it: actually wanting strong voices to order you around.

I will say, I'm starting to agree that rolling restrictions on freedoms based on case counts and hospitalization figures are oppressive and borderline fascist. But that shouldn't be conflated with a bilateral policy of requiring truckers who cross the border regularly to be vaccinated. That's not terribly controversial.

He ain't a heart-throb anymore. Look closely and you'll see the lines of just another, ugly old man trying to look like a young man. Just as the plastering art doth cover the harlot's cheek, yet changeth not that which lies... below. The new, bold Trudeua. How so? How about that intolerant rant to Quebecers for starts.

These overreacting freedom haters, as you put it, are also victims. We are all victims of a power hungry government and a ratings hungry media. Fear sells...about as well as sex. These people need to be singled out and dispensed with. As for me...I have vowed not to break any laws, but I will not cow to this crap either. I will continue to point out the abject stupidity of all this. Many of us do so and I believe we're making headway. As for this convoy...I hope they bring Ottawa to its knees. If common sense and raw facts won't move these abusive jack-asses...maybe having their city turned into an unmovable object will.

1, 4. Mr. Trudeua seems to be trying to position himself as such, of all things. In that regard he's a total failure. It's like when a pansy tries to play tough guy. One should not do an about-face from one's general sense of motion, unless ready to do a massive roll-over. Please flip the canoe, flip the canoe...

A government, any government needs to be kept in check and well within its box. Otherwise it will grow without limits and stick its nose into everything. Of course out of the best intentions and for common good. In this country we have no effective checks on the governments, just none. Sure we had opinion polls but now governments are discovering that those can be manipulated particularly effectively with fear, confusion and division. This is a real problem, ahead of everything else, including vaccinations. And if we won't find solutions we'll be screwed in this century if not by pandemic then by one of a host of problems that are piling up.

1. People make outlandish claims all the time. Just people, not leftists and rightists. I didn't look much into this, but saw a reference that there were some 5M trucks. So it could be that someone figured out, if 10% of truckers are non-vaccinated (as opposed to unvaccinated...) that makes 50,000 truckers. From there the information gets transmuted. 2. It seems there are about ten cars for every truck. You do the math 3. Now is the time for the rise of the strongman.

Another outlandish statement. One exaggeration or misrepresentation does not negate or cancel another lie. It's not a zero-sum arithmetic. A lie is a lie. And a misrepresentation, confusion and so on from a public and publicly funded source is certainly a much more serious issue than that from an individual.

That's an opinion that doesn't mesh with what health authorities are reporting or with what experts are advising them. Hey give me break, the title simply comes with the job and in actual fact my underlings like to use it in a mocking tone and genuflect in an often exaggerated scornful manner, it's really not all it's cracked up to be. I'm actually surprised the term hasn't been stricken from its official and industrial use given the day and age we're in. Maybe I could make it a human rights case based on the way it's used to humiliate ME. Imagine that a despot advocating for his own dethronement. They just don't make us lefties the way they used to.

I pray, as the world prays that the Truckers can end medical experiments in Canada. It has stripped Freedom, assets, lives, minds, hearts and souls. Be brave, stand tall and know that this government and nefarious persons and the military have been torturing and using people's bodies for decades for the ultimate solution... real estate, medical device testing (without consent) for patents and research and development grants which are not regulated GLOBALLY.

Many are commenting that this is the first time they've felt HOPE in 2 years. The support from the Hutterites and the Indigenous people has been wonderful, too - and not being picked up in the press. The Hutterites know the government wants their land. And I imagine the Indigenous people know what happened last time they had to have a pass to go anywhere.......

That's fitting. Since today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. Never forget what hating "the other" leads to.

It's not the same news around the world at all, did you think the news was the same on 9/11, on US news stations as it was on al Jazeer. no not the same news at all, one was reporting on a terrorist attack and the other was reporting Muslims around the globe cheering....It is crazy to think that everyone is getting the same news, in china, Russia, Ukraine etc... Even here in Canada there is a large difference in reporting from a right point of view and the others from a left point of view, same stories different coverages, different angles different perspectives. i mean why do people on here not take some sources serious and other gospel. Rebel news for instance same news way different take on it... The media is reporting news to make a buck not becasue they want to do you a favor and let you know whats going on, so yes they are going to put lipstick on every story becasue it sells... and if you can't see that, then maybe you have become nose blind to all the shit, everyone has been pushing as news...

yup.