CdnFox Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: What does that timing have to do with anything? Are you deliberately being stupid or are you being sarcastic? You don't realize that puts the relationship at just a few years old, not decades old or the like? 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Do you really think he's only going to benefit Brookfield companies and not those he met and has invested in from the GS days... You cry hards need to try harder with this o Utterly irrelevant. The point is that china benefited him, not who he's going to benefit. While working with Brooksfield, a company he still has significant ties to and whose executives he's met with recently, china lent him an obscene amount of money and directly benefited him tremendously China doesn't do that kind of thing for free. You borrow that kind of money from the Chinese Banks and there's a price tag beyond mere repayment of interest. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 17 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Not following.... he should be trying to make things happen given he's only in this for the money. Looks to be a bit of a longer game. Lose the China thing... your anti-liberal bias clouds your judgement. They're consistently our second largest trading partner... with 118B last year. We export ~30B.... and I'd have to think the people/jobs that depend and benefit from that trade would be a little pissed if we tried the holier than thou thing again. What are you even talking about.... lowered our standards and increase our trade with the US. Have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past year. I'm also safely assuming you were singing loud and proud with the other cry hards when Trudeau slapped the 100% EV tariffs on them and they said f*ck you to canola....weren't you. Are you going to say the same thing about India trade, or good with that? WTF ? i have no idea what this means.... Why, our trading with China only represents 3.9 % of our total GDP....and could easily be replaced by other Asian countries...CSIS tells us any dealings with China risks placing our national security at risk....it places Canadians that are of Chinese decent at risk, documented cheese police stations on Canadian soil places Canadians at risk...It is not about being holier than thou, it is about National security...I know your a liberal, but you must have some moral values on the subject... I find it funny you would risk everything we have with the US , but afraid of what we would lose with China... Here is is again Have i not been listening to what is happening over the past year....Yup, has any Canadian lives been put at risk, as any Canadian died, has the US government killed Canadians here at home....this is what we have right now with China and India...It seems you have not been awake for the last decade, when China executed Canadian drug dealers, held hostage the Michaels, threaten Chinese Canadians here in our own country...not to mention India who government sent assassins to kill a Canadian citizen here in Canada all of that YOU can over look....F*ck ya we can do trade with those guys what is wrong with that, anyone that does not agree is a cry baby....what did trump do exactly ?....threaten to take over the country...make us the 51 st state....that is where you draw a line in the sand...you can kill and threaten Canadians love ones but threaten to take over the country sarcastically....that's where the lines is... Why do we need any Chinese cars ? when our auto industry is falling apart, it makes not sense, you don't seem to be shedding any tears for those jobs....but when we talk about ending all trade with China then you start crying about jobs.... What is it that China produces that we need or can't get in some other country...? the answer is nothing...So far you have not explained why we need anything from China... when we can get cheap stuff any where in the world...has nothing to do about China it is all about your need for cheap sh!t....We should start introducing more tariffs until we cut China off ...end the national security threat once and for all....same goes for India...we don't need them, want to sell them something sell them oil and gas...they won't tariff those items and if they do it is easy to find an new customer... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 On 3/2/2026 at 11:16 AM, Army Guy said: WTF ? i have no idea what this means.... Why, our trading with China only represents 3.9 % of our total GDP....and could easily be replaced by other Asian countries...CSIS tells us any dealings with China risks placing our national security at risk....it places Canadians that are of Chinese decent at risk, documented cheese police stations on Canadian soil places Canadians at risk...It is not about being holier than thou, it is about National security...I know your a liberal, but you must have some moral values on the subject... I find it funny you would risk everything we have with the US , but afraid of what we would lose with China... Here is is again Have i not been listening to what is happening over the past year....Yup, has any Canadian lives been put at risk, as any Canadian died, has the US government killed Canadians here at home....this is what we have right now with China and India...It seems you have not been awake for the last decade, when China executed Canadian drug dealers, held hostage the Michaels, threaten Chinese Canadians here in our own country...not to mention India who government sent assassins to kill a Canadian citizen here in Canada all of that YOU can over look....F*ck ya we can do trade with those guys what is wrong with that, anyone that does not agree is a cry baby....what did trump do exactly ?....threaten to take over the country...make us the 51 st state....that is where you draw a line in the sand...you can kill and threaten Canadians love ones but threaten to take over the country sarcastically....that's where the lines is... Why do we need any Chinese cars ? when our auto industry is falling apart, it makes not sense, you don't seem to be shedding any tears for those jobs....but when we talk about ending all trade with China then you start crying about jobs.... What is it that China produces that we need or can't get in some other country...? the answer is nothing...So far you have not explained why we need anything from China... when we can get cheap stuff any where in the world...has nothing to do about China it is all about your need for cheap sh!t....We should start introducing more tariffs until we cut China off ...end the national security threat once and for all....same goes for India...we don't need them, want to sell them something sell them oil and gas...they won't tariff those items and if they do it is easy to find an new customer... You're unable to digest and understand what the facts and realities are.... We've dealt with them for 50 years and will be dealing with them for another 50 years. Throw India in now and at least it gives you cry hards more to chirp about.... 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You're unable to digest and understand what the facts and realities are.... We've dealt with them for 50 years and will be dealing with them for another 50 years. Throw India in now and at least it gives you cry hards more to chirp about.... The reality is this China and India have proven to be very unreliable partners in anything....those are facts given to us by our own intel agency....along with plenty of other experts in trade, and economics....Having dealt with them in the past means nothing ....people have been jumping off bridges for centuries does that mean they are safe...one does not have anything to do with the other...It does however show us where your moral values are, except when it comes to the US , then your nose blind....Here is another fact we depend on the US for 80 plus % of our trade.....and China is only 3.9 %....lets alienate the largest trading partner and suck up to the smallest...because that is the liberal thing to do....good thing he ios a banker... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Reg Volk Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 Canada is broken, and the horrid and evil Liberals broke it. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Reg Volk Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
CdnFox Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 47 minutes ago, Reg Volk said: First ladies are always supposed to look dignified and regal, why the hell does she always look like he brought along his cleaning lady? 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: The reality is this China and India have proven to be very unreliable partners in anything....those are facts given to us by our own intel agency....along with plenty of other experts in trade, and economics....Having dealt with them in the past means nothing ....people have been jumping off bridges for centuries does that mean they are safe...one does not have anything to do with the other...It does however show us where your moral values are, except when it comes to the US , then your nose blind....Here is another fact we depend on the US for 80 plus % of our trade.....and China is only 3.9 %....lets alienate the largest trading partner and suck up to the smallest...because that is the liberal thing to do....good thing he ios a banker... The governments agree to trade parameters but it's companies that trade with each other, not the governments. Most any business is going to put their morals aside with China and India if they can trade product/materials and dollars if there is a benefit for their business. They're trading not dating. I get the US stats.... and nobody has alienated or suggested we stop dealing with them because realistically we can't. Negotiations with an erratic 80 year old are supposed to be uncomfortable so if they're not folding, good on them. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 (edited) 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: The reality is this China and India have proven to be very unreliable partners in anything....those are facts given to us by our own intel agency....along with plenty of other experts in trade, and economics....Having dealt with them in the past means nothing ....people have been jumping off bridges for centuries does that mean they are safe...one does not have anything to do with the other...It does however show us where your moral values are, except when it comes to the US , then your nose blind....Here is another fact we depend on the US for 80 plus % of our trade.....and China is only 3.9 %....lets alienate the largest trading partner and suck up to the smallest...because that is the liberal thing to do....good thing he ios a banker... In 2024 Canada imported $88.9 billion (CAD) in goods from China, making it the second-largest source of imports for Canada. Canada's merchandise imports from India amounted to approximately USD 4.32 billion in 2024, total bilateral trade (both goods and services) between the two countries was valued at over USD 8 billion in recent years. So, they are not a small part of out economy. Exactly how are we alienating our largest trading partner??? We are not imposing tariffs. We are still buying. No one is debating the importance of the US in our imports...we all know they are our largest trading partner...but, the US is also now the one restricting our trade with us. The US has become unreliable hence, renewing or reengaging with other countries is a smart thing to do. Edited March 5 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: First ladies are always supposed to look dignified and regal, why the hell does she always look like he brought along his cleaning lady? Resorting to insulting a mans wife...you just go lower and lower. 2 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Army Guy Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 10 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: The governments agree to trade parameters but it's companies that trade with each other, not the governments. Most any business is going to put their morals aside with China and India if they can trade product/materials and dollars if there is a benefit for their business. They're trading not dating. I get the US stats.... and nobody has alienated or suggested we stop dealing with them because realistically we can't. Negotiations with an erratic 80 year old are supposed to be uncomfortable so if they're not folding, good on them. Actually Government sets out a wide variety of policies that steer companies and how they do trade...Ie if Canada decided to place tariffs on all Chinese products, making them cost comparable or higher with other world producers, i think you'd find Canadian businesses would find other markets... They are going to go where the they can make a profit...end of story...That's not the liberal message, that's being put out, that's not why we are relooking at military contracts with the US, that's not why we are looking at the European markets, the are actively pushing the US away...And in Canada we are cheerleading this message, and the US hears it loud and clear....and it is not sitting well for any trade talks...and CUSMA is going to look a lot different... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: In 2024 Canada imported $88.9 billion (CAD) in goods from China, making it the second-largest source of imports for Canada. Canada's merchandise imports from India amounted to approximately USD 4.32 billion in 2024, total bilateral trade (both goods and services) between the two countries was valued at over USD 8 billion in recent years. So, they are not a small part of out economy. Exactly how are we alienating our largest trading partner??? We are not imposing tariffs. We are still buying. No one is debating the importance of the US in our imports...we all know they are our largest trading partner...but, the US is also now the one restricting our trade with us. The US has become unreliable hence, renewing or reengaging with other countries is a smart thing to do. You can twist the numbers anyway you want, it still represents only 3.9 % of our trade....and this could be made up fairly easy by other trading partners... So they are a small amount of our economy...which sits at almost 2.4 trillion US wants Canada to be a reliable partner in everything we deal with the US....and by forcing us to be reliable we have got our asses up, and dug our heals in...Trump is doing what is best for his country and you guys are painting him and his actions as the enemy....And instead of taking his issues with our country seriously we whine and cry about them, turn those issues into weapons for political gain....even power... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Reg Volk Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 Every day this Carnage fool reveals himself to be every bit the spineless weasel that Justin Trudeau was. Liberals gotta Liberal.... Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: You can twist the numbers anyway you want, it still represents only 3.9 % of our trade....and this could be made up fairly easy by other trading partners... So they are a small amount of our economy...which sits at almost 2.4 trillion US wants Canada to be a reliable partner in everything we deal with the US....and by forcing us to be reliable we have got our asses up, and dug our heals in...Trump is doing what is best for his country and you guys are painting him and his actions as the enemy....And instead of taking his issues with our country seriously we whine and cry about them, turn those issues into weapons for political gain....even power... There is nothing to twist. They're consistently our second largest trading partner and you only have a problem with it because of your political bias. This could be made up fairly easy by other trading partners... LOL, don't be a fool! We trade ~125B annually while exporting ~35B...who exactly is going to 'make that up fairly easily'? What a fool.... Your TDS is shining through.... I can see why you support Poilievre. The US wants Canada to be a reliable parter....how fùcking uninformed are you? Yeah, Trump is a straight up solid guy who holds his word while Canada is the country changing its tune every second day. You're freaking stunned.... You cry hards can keep whining and crying all you'd like. You do it well so don't stop.... 1 Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: There is nothing to twist. They're consistently our second largest trading partner and you only have a problem with it because of your political bias. This could be made up fairly easy by other trading partners... LOL, don't be a fool! We trade ~125B annually while exporting ~35B...who exactly is going to 'make that up fairly easily'? What a fool.... Your TDS is shining through.... I can see why you support Poilievre. The US wants Canada to be a reliable parter....how fùcking uninformed are you? Yeah, Trump is a straight up solid guy who holds his word while Canada is the country changing its tune every second day. You're freaking stunned.... You cry hards can keep whining and crying all you'd like. You do it well so don't stop.... one of the best tricks the Liberal have pulled is getting stupid gullible fools in Canada to fall in love with China, literally one of the most evil countries on earth right now. Unbelievable. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Legato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: There is nothing to twist. They're consistently our second largest trading partner and you only have a problem with it because of your political bias. This could be made up fairly easy by other trading partners... LOL, don't be a fool! We trade ~125B annually while exporting ~35B...who exactly is going to 'make that up fairly easily'? What a fool.... Your TDS is shining through.... I can see why you support Poilievre. The US wants Canada to be a reliable parter....how fùcking uninformed are you? Yeah, Trump is a straight up solid guy who holds his word while Canada is the country changing its tune every second day. You're freaking stunned.... You cry hards can keep whining and crying all you'd like. You do it well so don't stop.... Exports to China about 4%. Exports to US about 70%. Yet you prefer China, odd that. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Reg Volk said: one of the best tricks the Liberal have pulled is getting stupid gullible fools in Canada to fall in love with China, literally one of the most evil countries on earth right now. Unbelievable. But I'm sure the minions liked it when Harper engaged more with China, didn't you... Unbelievable. Prairie conservatives sure do like the trade deal... wonder why. 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: But I'm sure the minions liked it when Harper engaged more with China, didn't you... Unbelievable. Prairie conservatives sure do like the trade deal... wonder why. Harpers long gone, try another straw to clutch. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 Just now, Legato said: Exports to China about 4%. Exports to US about 70%. Yet you prefer China, odd that. I understand you're not the brightest minion, but show me where I or anyone for that matter prefers China over the US as trading partner. Take Trump's dick out your mouth and try to use common sense.... Quote
Legato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: I understand you're not the brightest minion, but show me where I or anyone for that matter prefers China over the US as trading partner. Take Trump's dick out your mouth and try to use common sense.... Nice failed deflection. Try harder. 1 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 Just now, Legato said: Harpers long gone, try another straw to clutch. He's all you cry hards have. That's it, that all.... Liken using Harper to Trudeau in your 4 page contribution to the 'what the liberals did thread'... Just now, Legato said: Nice failed deflection. Try harder. No deflection at all. 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: He's all you cry hards have. That's it, that all.... Liken using Harper to Trudeau in your 4 page contribution to the 'what the liberals did thread'... No deflection at all. Like I said, try harder. 1 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 Just now, Legato said: Like I said, try harder. You got fùck all.... don't ya 😂 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 18 hours ago, Army Guy said: Here is another fact we depend on the US for 80 plus % of our trade.....and China is only 3.9 %....lets alienate the largest trading partner and suck up to the smallest...because that is the liberal thing to do... You mean it's the left wing progressive thing to do? Bite me. I've been saying no truck nor trade with China on human rights grounds for decades and predictably right-wingers mocked that in its entirety. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: You can twist the numbers anyway you want, it still represents only 3.9 % of our trade....and this could be made up fairly easy by other trading partners... So they are a small amount of our economy...which sits at almost 2.4 trillion US wants Canada to be a reliable partner in everything we deal with the US....and by forcing us to be reliable we have got our asses up, and dug our heals in...Trump is doing what is best for his country and you guys are painting him and his actions as the enemy....And instead of taking his issues with our country seriously we whine and cry about them, turn those issues into weapons for political gain....even power... No twisting . I just asked AI and that is the numbers it came up with. Dispute them if you want but realize, while it may only be a small amount now, it can very well get bigger. If the US wants us to be a reliable partner, then it is up to them to show it instead of hanging tariffs or threats of tariffs on us. Trump may be doing heat he thinks is best for his country but his country is realizing it is costing them a lot, Carney is also trying to do what is best for his country by establishing new relationships...and we will have to wait for the results of those negotiations. You clearly do not like what Carney is doing but at least he is trying. I have yet to hear our government officially cry and whine... as a matter of fact, they carry on. I did, as a matter of fact hear PP whine and cry and even name Trump as a problem for Canada in a recent speech in Toronto. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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