Far left activists and politicians look to bully, intimidate, harass Christian music artist and parishioners from exercising right to practice religion

[West]

 

The demented leftists strike again. The Montreal mayor claims he needs a "permit" to hold a worship service in a church..

This country has truly gone whacky. Sounds like the White House has been contacted

[paxamericana]

This is what happens when social justice  become your only moral compass. Religion teaches grace, an element often missed altogether. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

This is what happens when social justice  become your only moral compass. Religion teaches grace, an element often missed altogether. 

It's country versus country. Stop lying to yourself

[paxamericana]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

It's country versus country. Stop lying to yourself

Leftism is a disease we have here too you know. 

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Leftism is a disease we have here too you know. 

You spilled blood, died and spent trillions fighting leftism around the world and you STILL can't do anything to squelch it at home?

Why...how? It defies reason.

Edited July 26, 2025 by eyeball

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

You spilled blood, died and spent trillions fighting leftism around the world and you STILL can't do anything to squelch it at home?

Why...how? It defines reason.

We're destroying it at the roots. The University are going to have to comply or not get funding. The department of Education is also gutted. School choice will now be a safeguard against institutionalised leftism. 

Edited July 26, 2025 by paxamericana

[blackbird]

quote

James Turk, the director of the Centre for Free Expression at Toronto Metropolitan University, said the decision to remove a permit raises a red flag.

"I think we should all be concerned whenever there is a demand that somebody's right to speak is taken away, a permit withdrawn, a booking in a venue cancelled," Turk said in an interview on Thursday.

Amplifying messages

Turk said the price of democracy is living with viewpoints that we don't like or agree with as well as ones we do like.

"In Canada, generally, we recognize the foundation of democracy is an ongoing public discourse about what's legitimate, what's not legitimate," Turk said. "And that means we tolerate a wide range of perspectives and views, and we sort things out in our heterogeneous society by listening to different views, arguing against them or ignoring them or boycotting them, but not by censoring them."

Turk said attempts to censor someone like Feucht could end up amplifying his message.   unquote

MAGA musician permit revocations spark public space debate | CBC News

A number of cities have opposed or cancelled this musician's venue permit.  This is totally in opposition to the Charter of Rights on freedom of speech and freedom of religion.  If someone doesn't agree, they don't have to go to it.  But they don't have the right to silence other people from speaking.  That is more like North Korea's and Iran's totalitarianism.  Canadians need to wake up.  What is happening in Canada is not good.

This just reveals one of the problems with the Charter of Rights.  It is a piece of paper and it seems any politician or city councillor can just ignore it at whim because in order to enforce it, one might have thousands of dollars to hire law firms and fight it in courts that take years to get through or get a ruling.  In the meantime people's rights are trampled.  Also, how are rights really enshrined in a piece of paper when the Supreme Court is loaded with liberals by people like Trudeau and automatically interpret it in their usual radical progressive way.  The simple statement about basic freedoms can be ignored not only by many city councilors, mayors, left wing politicians, but even by SCC.

Edited July 26, 2025 by blackbird

[herbie]

Another politically naive Yank lecturing us on oolitics. Wahhh wahh "the left" waah waah!
Hiding under the bed for 70 years over the Red Menace bogeyman.

The guy is not welcome in any govt associated venues cuz they don't want to egg on protesters and rioters. Some dumb church allowed him to perform without a permit and the city is going to fine them. Whine about that too.
Any Canadian that supports and promotes a pro-Trumper is a f*cking traitor, you simply don't get that. That one man is 100% of the reason for tensions between our two countries.

Let that sink in.

Not weather, not low dollars, not anti-Americanism, not bullshit tales we're ripping you off. All the 1diot in the White House.

[blackbird]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

Some dumb church allowed him to perform without a permit and the city is going to fine them. Whine about that too.

Yes, that is something everyone should be concerned about.  Nobody needs a permit to worship or preach in a church.  If you don't understand that, you don't have a clue about basic freedoms especially freedom of religion.   

First time I have heard about anyone needing a permit to participate, preach, or sing in a church.  Nobody should even consider going along with that kind of governmental left wing tyranny.

 

[Legato]

22 minutes ago, herbie said:

Another politically naive Yank lecturing us on oolitics. Wahhh wahh "the left" waah waah!
Hiding under the bed for 70 years over the Red Menace bogeyman.

The guy is not welcome in any govt associated venues cuz they don't want to egg on protesters and rioters. Some dumb church allowed him to perform without a permit and the city is going to fine them. Whine about that too.
Any Canadian that supports and promotes a pro-Trumper is a f*cking traitor, you simply don't get that. That one man is 100% of the reason for tensions between our two countries.

Let that sink in.

Not weather, not low dollars, not anti-Americanism, not bullshit tales we're ripping you off. All the 1diot in the White House.

Paul Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

[herbie]

If you worship Trump supporters, you just defined yourself as a traitor. How the hell can you pretend a singer that supports a leader who despises every premise of Christianity is a fellow of that religion.
Disgusting.

The hypocritical reasoning one uses to claim prevention of public disorder is an attack on religion.

[West]

36 minutes ago, herbie said:

Another politically naive Yank lecturing us on oolitics. Wahhh wahh "the left" waah waah!
Hiding under the bed for 70 years over the Red Menace bogeyman.

The guy is not welcome in any govt associated venues cuz they don't want to egg on protesters and rioters. Some dumb church allowed him to perform without a permit and the city is going to fine them. Whine about that too.
Any Canadian that supports and promotes a pro-Trumper is a f*cking traitor, you simply don't get that. That one man is 100% of the reason for tensions between our two countries.

Let that sink in.

Not weather, not low dollars, not anti-Americanism, not bullshit tales we're ripping you off. All the 1diot in the White House.

Okay so because people throw a tantrum and violent attack people exercising their right to gather for religious ceremonies they should be canceled? 

Seems sick. If people are that wacky to attack people exercising their religion they are the ones who should be removed from society to a psych ward or something

12 minutes ago, herbie said:

If you worship Trump supporters, you just defined yourself as a traitor. How the hell can you pretend a singer that supports a leader who despises every premise of Christianity is a fellow of that religion.
Disgusting.

The hypocritical reasoning one uses to claim prevention of public disorder is an attack on religion.

The current government are authoritarian. They and their supporters are traitors to our ancestors who bled and died to prevent fascism in the 1930s

[West]

31 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, that is something everyone should be concerned about.  Nobody needs a permit to worship or preach in a church.  If you don't understand that, you don't have a clue about basic freedoms especially freedom of religion.   

First time I have heard about anyone needing a permit to participate, preach, or sing in a church.  Nobody should even consider going along with that kind of governmental left wing tyranny.

 

Adolf Hitler gave out permits to religious groups with pre-approved talking points too. All the Soros cash is likely being funneled to Canada now where we know politicians in the US were bribing religious establishment to parrot government propaganda

[Army Guy]

19 minutes ago, herbie said:

If you worship Trump supporters, you just defined yourself as a traitor. How the hell can you pretend a singer that supports a leader who despises every premise of Christianity is a fellow of that religion.
Disgusting.

The hypocritical reasoning one uses to claim prevention of public disorder is an attack on religion.

What is it that you have done for this country that allows you to step up and call others traitors....my bet is SFA, sit back down and relax...

[Venandi]

You don't need a permit to hold a religious service or evening of Christian music in a church.

In addition (and IMO of course), cancelling virtually any peaceful assembly to appease wild eyed slobbering extremists of any stripe (that's any stripe Herb)  is and should be an affront to any sensible person who subscribes to any set of values / freedoms worth defending.  

Violence or the threat of it should be dealt with head on... I'm left wondering how we got to a point in this country where that needs to be articulated.  

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

You spilled blood, died and spent trillions fighting leftism around the world...

Must have been a deployment I missed...  

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by Venandi

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

What is it that you have done for this country that allows you to step up and call others traitors.

Lived in it, enough for anyone to 'justify' themselves as a citizen. Are you about to stand up and defend supporters of someone out to destroy Canada as patriots? 
You don't have to stand up for free speech, that's a given, but it doesn't protect you from the rotten tomatoes tossed at you.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Any Canadian that supports and promotes a pro-Trumper is a f*cking traitor, you simply don't get that. That one man is 100% of the reason for tensions between our two countries.

You supported vax-fascism you worthless God-damned weasel. GFYS. 

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

If you worship Trump supporters, you just defined yourself as a traitor.

No, it is not worshiping Trump supporters.  It is opposing LGBTQ+ and opposing abortion, not to mention MAID, the ideology of death.  Those are things that all Bible believers oppose.  This man speaks against those things which any Christian can understand.   We don't need local politicians on city councils telling us how to think or forcing their DEI agenda on us.

Edited July 27, 2025 by blackbird

[User]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

How the hell can you pretend a singer that supports a leader who despises every premise of Christianity is a fellow of that religion.
Disgusting.

Ah yes, the resident bigot against Christianity is going to lecture us on Christianity. 

[CouchPotato]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

Some dumb church allowed him to perform without a permit and the city is going to fine them.

Well, we can't have people singing in church without permits.

Wow. You are some piece of work.

Edited July 27, 2025 by CouchPotato

[TreeBeard]

6 hours ago, Legato said:

Paul Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

Goebbels loved a right-wing hate-fest!   He would’ve been there cheering. 

[paxamericana]

I don’t know what hurt caused people to move against the Judeo Christian faith but by far it is one of the most important pillars of our western society. Without it, everything crumbles and devolves into a nihilistic hell hole where nothing matters and everything is relative. Social justice activism isn’t going to replace the need of god for you. 

[herbie]

Oooh an entire congregation lacking a sense of shame. Meat for the right to drool over.

[Moonlight Graham]

10 hours ago, paxamericana said:

We're destroying it at the roots. The University are going to have to comply or not get funding. The department of Education is also gutted. School choice will now be a safeguard against institutionalised leftism. 

The anti-liberalism of the far-left needs to defeated, but the problem is US politicians including the Trump admin are sometimes using anti-liberalism measures to do so.  That means it's about politics (power and control) to them, not defending liberal democratic values.

We're seeing liberal democracy crumbling before our eyes in both the US and Canada.

I don't agree with a bunch of this singer's beliefs, but freedom of expression and freedom of religion aren't fundamental democratic rights designed for speech and religious beliefs government officials agree with, they're designed for the ones they don't.

Are there any countries in the West that still value liberalism?

[Moonlight Graham]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

The guy is not welcome in any govt associated venues cuz they don't want to egg on protesters and rioters. Some dumb church allowed him to perform without a permit and the city is going to fine them. Whine about that too.

The public safety excuse is a lie.  People complained so they cancelled/denied the permits based on public pressure in order to be politically correct.   The government is now deciding what speech should and shouldn't be allowed to be said in PUBLIC venues.   Maybe a whole bunch of people in Canada don't agree with his views, that's fine, but anti-LGBT and anti-abortion speech based on mainstream Christian religious beliefs is Charter-protected speech, as is pro-Trump speech.  This isn't the USSR.   Or maybe it's slowly creeping closer to it?...

These are the quotes this artist has said.   These beliefs are pretty standard for ardent Christians:

• "The demonic, sick, and twisted agenda of drag queens is perverting the minds of children." (Tweet from 2024)
• “The radical left is pushing perverse ideologies on our children, from drag queen story hours to transgender indoctrination in schools."
• "Pride Month is a demonic agenda that is hell-bent on destroying our culture and perverting our children. It’s time to stand up and say ENOUGH!” (Tweet from June 2024)