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April 28th!

And by Apr 30th you'll be able to own a nice house in the safe city with armed soldiers circling around protecting you before you're 30.
Even if you work at BurgerKing !!!
Or you can come to the realization you're not suffering but whining and address reality. Our former allies and trade partners are out to f*ck us over and we can heed the lessons of falling for lies and unobtainable promises of populist doomsayers.

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I declare open the Games of Canadian Politics. :)
On here as well as the rest of canada :)

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

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It's probably a foregone conclusion thanks to PP and the CPC's Randy White Danielle Smith moment.

“The perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think … the new direction in America. And I think we’d have a really great relationship for the period of time they’re both in.”

“What I fear,” Smith said, “is that the longer this dispute goes on, politicians posture, and it seems to be benefiting the Liberals right now. So I would hope that we could put things on pause is what I’ve told administration officials. Let’s just put things on pause so we can get through an election.”

https://archive.ph/iBGQe#selection-869.9-869.115

It's like kryptonite or fast acting polonium.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Eyeball,

I looked at your link.

Disagree.

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Mark Carney (and the federal Liberals) seem like the quick easy solution.

Let's see. "Even 36 days can be a century in politics."

 

 

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7 hours ago, herbie said:

April 28th!

And by Apr 30th you'll be able to own a nice house in the safe city with armed soldiers circling around protecting you before you're 30.
Even if you work at BurgerKing !!!
Or you can come to the realization you're not suffering but whining and address reality. Our former allies and trade partners are out to f*ck us over and we can heed the lessons of falling for lies and unobtainable promises of populist doomsayers.

The last time this happened i believe, correct me if i'm wrong but the last time Trump imposed tariffs the liberal party was in charge, they did nothing, nor did they do anything fto prepare for trump 2.0....so yes lets talk about who really brought us to this time and place...who really fu*ked us over, and like always we forgotten the past and we are going to give them another go at it...Now that makes sense...

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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25 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Eyeball,

I looked at your link.

Disagree.

With what she said or the damage it's done?

26 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Mark Carney (and the federal Liberals) seem like the quick easy solution.

Let's see. "Even 36 days can be a century in politics."

It's certainly getting easier for Carney and he's only been at it for a couple of months.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

With what she said or the damage it's done?

It's certainly getting easier for Carney and he's only been at it for a couple of months.

There's literally no damage, and that will be forgotten in about 5 minutes. That is also true of the comment trump made that he prefers the liberals. 

Carney got off to a decent start with his speech today and then immediately crashed into the rocks with his questions from the press Gallery. If that's a sign of things to come he's going to be in real trouble. Not only that but he actually quoted Poilievre a number of times word for word and that's going to make it hard for him moving forward as he tries to claim that poilievre is wrong or pro trump or anything like that because more and more people are going to compare the two because what he says is so close to what Poilievre says. The difference is Poilievre has been saying most of that stuff for quite some time and carney is going to look like he's just trying to ride on Poilievre's coattails. 

Early days, we won't really see how things are sitting for a few more days till the first real polling numbers start coming in. 

 

 

 

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Hopefully Eastern Canada smartens up and ends the nazi dictatorship we've been under. I doubt it cause the people are vile but you never know

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5 minutes ago, West said:

Hopefully Eastern Canada smartens up and ends the nazi dictatorship we've been under. I doubt it cause the people are vile but you never know

Watch for rising NDP numbers in urban anglo ridings.

Off the island, I reckon that it will be BQ vs PC.

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I'm kind of surprised the Libs are focusing so much on Carney being an economist and his "saving" the Uk economy and claiming he single-handedly "saved" Canada's economy.

The UK economy is tanking bad and after Carney advising the Libs for the last 4 years at least, our's is circling the toilet bowl, too.

I don't think Carney is the "economist" they are trying to portray.  There are a lot of different kinds of economists.  It's like a dermatologist saying, "Well, I can perform neurosurgery because I'm also a doctor and the face is close to the brain, so....."

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"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

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1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I'm kind of surprised the Libs are focusing so much on Carney being an economist and his "saving" the Uk economy and claiming he single-handedly "saved" Canada's economy.

The UK economy is tanking bad and after Carney advising the Libs for the last 4 years at least, our's is circling the toilet bowl, too.

I don't think Carney is the "economist" they are trying to portray.  There are a lot of different kinds of economists.  It's like a dermatologist saying, "Well, I can perform neurosurgery because I'm also a doctor and the face is close to the brain, so....."

They're actually pushing hard on a bunch of really serious lies. They're flat out line about things that poilievre has said, they are flat out lying about carney's history and cV, they're just making it up as they go.

He's definitely not an economist. And they're trying to pass them off as a businessman but he's not really that either. It's not like the Bank of Canada could go broke or something. He keeps talking about how Poilievre doesn't know what it's like to have to make payroll but neither does he.

I think he's going to start smelling to people fairly quickly if he does a lot of interviews. If he only does prepared speeches he'll be better off but honestly if he's in front of a reporter he's in trouble.  I don't think the debates are going to go terribly well for him either. 

The thing is most of his strength right now is coming from NDP voters who don't like him but hate PP even more.  And they think carney can win

If Carney's numbers start slipping even a little bit, they will lose faith and start to go back to the NDP and drovesthe CPC will once again gain a little bit more of that vote. And then he's going to have one hell of a voter turnout problem

To be perfectly honest I'm still thinking 50 seats. Now he could over perform and maybe he manages to turn the momentum into something legitimate and walks away with a near loss or even theoretically a win,  But  i suspect we'll see it go the other way and his support will go down over the next few weeks. 

It should stay more or less level till just about the debates, maybe a slight drop or bump, then i think around the debates it'll start to sink and once it starts it'll nose dive. 

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4 hours ago, Goddess said:

The UK economy is tanking bad

Just like Carney said it would due to Brexit.   An economist and head of the national bank, whether in the UK or here, doesn’t control the economy.  They can steer it somewhat with policy, but even that is limited.   You make it out like he single-handedly pulled the levers of the UK economy.  As the Brits would say…. Bollocks. 

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/canadas-new-prime-minister-bears-the-battle-scars-of-brexit/

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10 hours ago, Army Guy said:

The last time this happened i believe, correct me if i'm wrong but the last time Trump imposed tariffs the liberal party was in charge, they did nothing, nor did they do anything fto prepare for trump 2.0....so yes lets talk about who really brought us to this time and place...who really fu*ked us over, and like always we forgotten the past and we are going to give them another go at it...Now that makes sense...

Last time Trump was in power Canada (the liberal government) renegotiated NAFTA and USMCA deal was done.  The negotiation team included many liberals and prominent conservatives (including Mulroney who signed NAFTA)

We imposed as many tariffs as they did and that was in the agreement.

Trump, unilaterally, brought us here.

Not sure what makes sense or what you are trying to say.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

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4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Last time Trump was in power Canada (the liberal government) renegotiated NAFTA and USMCA deal was done.  The negotiation team included many liberals and prominent conservatives (including Mulroney who signed NAFTA)

We imposed as many tariffs as they did and that was in the agreement.

Trump, unilaterally, brought us here.

Not sure what makes sense or what you are trying to say.

The current liberal government have weaken this country which has embolden trump to pick it as his first target...It is liberal actions and policies that have brought us to this point....i think it is funny to think that once Justin packed his bags and left office liberal voters think everything is going to be OK...Carney cabinet is basically the same screw ups that have brought us here....how do you think anything is going to be different when all you did was to change cheap suits ....

most Canadians think that beating our chests, and yelling into the wind is going to win this tariff issue....It's not , it will just entice him to be a bigger pr*ck....we had a chance to travel there and discuss what the real problem was and offer to fix it back then, instead we choose to poke the bear with a huge stick....Diplomacy is going to win this not talking well above of weight class...

Carney is going to wait for trump to come to the table...while Canadians suffer with tariffs, trump is to egotistical to make the first move. He knows we can not wait forever....meanwhile carney does nothing except poking the bear...

Last time Trump put on tariffs there was a lot of tough liberal talk back then as well about how we are going to diversify our trade how we are going find new customers for our oil and gas....after the tariffs were lifted we heard nothing but cricket's...years later europe comes here with hat in hand begging us for natural gas, and justin turns them down flat , no case for that... the point of all this is we don't learn anything from our experiences', we are either not smart enough or we are to lazy to so... 

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Just like Carney said it would due to Brexit.   An economist and head of the national bank, whether in the UK or here, doesn’t control the economy.  They can steer it somewhat with policy, but even that is limited.   You make it out like he single-handedly pulled the levers of the UK economy.  As the Brits would say…. Bollocks. 

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/canadas-new-prime-minister-bears-the-battle-scars-of-brexit/

Thats bullshit, you should read the entire story from the British perspective...,in no way do they paint a good picture....your free to post a british source that says otherwise.... pretending Carney did not have any influence over their economy, is a lie.....he had a lot of influence over Britain's economy and his actions also affected todays outcomes in the british economy... according to british sources...

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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I know it is hard to comprehend that the liberal government is responsible for our current woo's in this country...the same liberals carney is in charge of right now...removing justin is not going to change this liberal government it is the same cabinet, and we will get the same results....

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

entire story from the British perspective

The biggest gripe from these clowns was his opposition to Brexit.  Thats who is coming from under their rocks to criticize him. 
 

Brexit was awful, as Carney predicted.  

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10 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Just like Carney said it would due to Brexit.   An economist and head of the national bank, whether in the UK or here, doesn’t control the economy.  They can steer it somewhat with policy, but even that is limited.   You make it out like he single-handedly pulled the levers of the UK economy.  As the Brits would say…. Bollocks. 

Then why is he out there claiming that he steered the UK through this difficult time?

He very clearly didn't. And he very clearly couldn't articulate an argument as to why brexit was a bad idea

Yet this whole premise is to why he's best to handle trump is based on that lie.

If there was such a thing as financial stolen valor this guy would be the poster boy for it

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58 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The biggest gripe from these clowns was his opposition to Brexit.  Thats who is coming from under their rocks to criticize him. 
 

Brexit was awful, as Carney predicted.  

Thats not their only complaints...i've posted 3 sources already on carney british performance and all of them don't paint him as any good, not to mention he is taking credit for the saving Canada during the 2008 crises , to which he may of played a role but a small one...His credential's are just not those he paints them to be...

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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The fact is, Carney is a failure, a globalist sell-out AND not a good speaker.

Let him open his mouth a few times and watch people question his fitness for the office.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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