Trump shot at his own rally

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Trump isn't at the same stage of HIS progression to fascist dictator as Hitler ENDED UP AT.

Hitler had to be re-elected BEFORE he destroyed democracy in Germany and started killing Jews and WWII.

Of course Trump is much older than Hitler was then so he may not survive that long.

That's what is said about Trump, obviously.

Enjoy the election Tweenkie-poo.

[Deluge]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

What ^FOOLS laugh at only PROVES their FOOLISHNESS, Mr. "j6 felons live at Rikers". LMAO

You J6 sluts will ride that shit to your graves. lol

The REAL foolishness is the democrat party and its banana republic court system. 

[Hodad]

18 hours ago, User said:

If they were not legal... how would they have succeeded?

This cannot be a real conversation. Coups are--almost by definition--illegal. All that is required for success is to have the right people in the right positions of power at the right times. Coups short circuit the law or disregard it altogether. They succeed if they are well executed.

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No, you didn't. I asked you to explain how this would play out to that it would have worked. You didn't offer anything other than their plan. 
 

The content of their plan is exactly how it played out--with the one dealbreaker being Pence. The other necessary components were operationalized. They tried their hardest to make it happen--including Trump sicking the mob on Pence. 

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What damage would have been done? The moment Pence tried to do anything, it would have been instantly fought over. Yet, you just presume it would have worked, until I challenged you... now you are trying to have it both ways and still have not actually explained how this would have ended our Republic. 

It would have been "fought over"? Yes, indeed, it would have--a fight with no rules. There is no prescribed remedy for such a situation. Assuming that we wouldn't slip immediately into rioting violence and potentially civil war, the best case scenario is that it goes before the SCOTUS. And with this perverse version of the SCOTUS it's anyone's guess what happens, but in either case the losing side would not accept the outcome. Does a cabal committed to overthrowing democracy listen to the SCOTUS if they are refused? They didn't listen to the voters. They didn't listen to the constitution. They didn't listen to 250 years of precedent. But in the event this SCOTUS could muster up some decency, suddenly 9 justices are a sufficient deterrent when everything else was not? With a contested and uncertain presidency on Jan 20, who controls the country? The Military? 

They didn't need to get everyone to agree. They simply needed to create enough chaos and dysfunction to plausibly retain power. And that's what they tried to do. 

The damage would have been immeasurable, delegitimizing every institution and functionally destroying the republic. All the seeds planted by the false narrative of election fraud nurtured to a disastrous harvest.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Matthew said:

Frankly there are so many dumb comments here. It's an extremely low quality thread.

They're all from leftists like yourself, Matthew. Rational, honest posts from leftists are basically non-existent at this forum. 

Take this thread here for instance:

1. Biden has called Trump supporters 'extreme MAGA terrorists', he calls Trump a threat to end democracy, existential threat, and Jill Biden calls him evil, etc. It's non stop. Leftard rags call him a fascist, compare him to Hitler, etc, Huffpost even wrote an article "SC gives Biden the legal ok to assassinate Trump", etc. 
2. When Trump first got elected Johnny Depp, Madonna, Kathy Griffin, etc made comments about assassinating Trump, the severed head effigy of Trump, etc and Dems thought it was funny.
3. Maxine Waters was telling her supporters that if they see members of the GOP in public they should "get in their faces and let them know that they aren't welcome", and it was working. GOPers were gettingc hased out of restaurants, harassed threatened, etc. The Dems never apologized or called for it to stop. 
4. When the WH was attacked in 2020 the MSM barely noticed. It was all ok, because their supporters were ginned up by Dem/MSM lies and false narratives.

If you believed all the talk about Trump's fascism, his threats to America, that he referred to immigrants as animals, that he put kids in cages and Obama never did, etc, then you'd take the talk of assassination seriously. 

Remember, the shooter was only 13 when he started hearing that violent propaganda from Hollywood elites, Dems, and MSM news outlets, and their drivel & lies have been relentless this whole time. There are adults who post here who are completely hoodwinked by it all. If that shooter was alive he could easily make the case that the MSM, Hollywood and the Dems convinced him that assassinating Trump was the right and decent thing to do. And don't forget, the Dems and MSM also support political violence: they incited & supported BLM riots from mid 2014-2017 and then again thru summer 2020. 

The above political climate also led to Rand Paul getting jumped from behind by a neighbour, and a guy went across the country to shoot Republicans at the congressional baseball game. 

Dems pretended that their violent rhetoric never contributed to that. Then they try to act like they're uniters, and when they talk about "political violence" in recent years they limit that to

• the attack on Paul Pelosi, but don't mention Rand Paul
• they mention Jan 6th constantly but NEVER mention the BLM riots (the WH was attacked, over 60 secret servicemen were injured), or the shooting of Steve Scalise and others at the congressional baseball game. 

Make no mistake: even at this point in time they're still constantly pretending that there's a lot of political violence from right-wingers and NONE from the left. NONE. FYI that's a form of tacit approval... "Well they did all this terrible stuff in recent years and we only did this one single solitary thing so let's just remember that they're still the bad guys here and we're the uniters, as always, the only issue is that one guy from our side just randomly did this one thing 😇 ."

Here's what a Dem "unification speech" looks like:

"Extreme MAGA terrorists are still an existential threat to democracy!!!!"

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What's the point of having a messageboard of this sort if it's just to blast irrational nonsense crap at people? You could do that on Twitter.

Can you talk openly and honestly about all of the accusatory, violent rhetoric and the fear-mongering from the Dems that led up to this, or are you here to keep up the CNN rhetoric of the past few days about how it's time to ignore that stuff and just move on, while pretending that right-wing violence has been prevalent while LW violence has not?

You're basically saying: "You have to repeat CNN drivel, everything else is irrational crap", and FYI that qualifies as irrational crap. 

Matthew, I can tell from your political slant that you don't have a pair of big boy pants: you're just here to obfuscate, lie, slander and distract attention away from the real issue here, which is the contant stream of lies and slander that led to an assassination attempt against Trump. Your goal is to have this event drift by without any leftards ever taking any accountability all, isn't it...? 

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

So, basically isn't Hitler. 

Like I SAID, Hitler wanna be. Duh

And Hitler wasn't Hitler at THIS stage of his progression to fascist dictator, either.

Are you that forgetful, or just never understood what I wrote before? LMAO

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

There was no incitement to violence. That is the lie that incited an assassination attempt.

Sure. A violent mob just happened to do exactly what Trump suggested they should and is now promising to pardon.

Your vote is for NAIVE as a newborn baby. LMAO

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Enjoy the election Tweenkie-poo.

I do enjoy reading your desperate EMPTY rebuttals. Means you're BANKRUPT AGAIN. LMAO

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

You J6 sluts will ride that shit to your graves. lol

The REAL foolishness is the democrat party and its banana republic court system. 

^More desperate DELUGINAL BANKRUPTCY.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you believed all the talk about Trump's fascism, his threats to America, that he referred to immigrants as animals, that he put kids in cages and Obama never did, etc, then you'd take the talk of assassination seriously. 

I guess it's safe to assume you don't really believe all your fascism/Nazi yakkity yak about Trudeau seriously then. Otherwise you would have done something about it by now.

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Matthew, I can tell from your political slant that you don't have a pair of big boy pants: you're just here to obfuscate, lie, slander and distract attention away from the real issue here, which is the contant stream of lies and slander that led to an assassination attempt against Trump. Your goal is to have this event drift by without any leftards ever taking any accountability all, isn't it...? 

WCM, I can tell from your political slant that you don't have a pair of big boy pants: you're just here to obfuscate, lie, slander and distract attention away from the real issue here, which is the constant stream of lies and slander that led to an retaliation against Trump for Jan 6th. Your goal is to have this event drift by without any MAGA CULT nor Trump ever taking any accountability at all for Jan 6th, isn't it...? 

[BeaverFever]

9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Take this thread here for instance:

1. Biden has called Trump supporters 'extreme MAGA terrorists', he calls Trump a threat to end democracy, existential threat, and Jill Biden calls him evil, etc. It's non stop. Leftard rags call him a fascist, compare him to Hitler, etc, Huffpost even wrote an article "SC gives Biden the legal ok to assassinate Trump", etc. 
2. When Trump first got elected Johnny Depp, Madonna, Kathy Griffin, etc made comments about assassinating Trump, the severed head effigy of Trump, etc and Dems thought it was funny.
3. Maxine Waters was telling her supporters that if they see members of the GOP in public they should "get in their faces and let them know that they aren't welcome", and it was working. GOPers were gettingc hased out of restaurants, harassed threatened, etc. The Dems never apologized or called for it to stop. 

PFFT…Trump, Republicans and their social media trolls do more than that in a single morning. True to form, you chickenhawks can dish it out by the TRUCKLOAD but cry like little biotches if you get the occasional teaspoonful in return. 

[Deluge]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^More desperate DELUGINAL BANKRUPTCY.

roboshill trusts mandates and wishes the government would impose more of them. 

[gatomontes99]

18 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Like I SAID, Hitler wanna be. Duh

And Hitler wasn't Hitler at THIS stage of his progression to fascist dictator, either.

Are you that forgetful, or just never understood what I wrote before? LMAO

Sure. A violent mob just happened to do exactly what Trump suggested they should and is now promising to pardon.

Your vote is for NAIVE as a newborn baby. LMAO

Peacefully and patriotically.

[BeaverFever]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

When the WH was attacked in 2020

The White House was not attacked. 
 

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Remember, the shooter was only 13 when he started hearing that violent propaganda from Hollywood elites, Dems, and MSM news outlets, and their drivel & lies have been relentless this whole time.

Baloney. Shooter was republican obsessed with gun culture whose daddy owned a AR-15, which republicans have made a symbol of anti-woke culture. Probably had a Trump obsession and was made he didn’t reply to any of his love letters. It’s not uncommon for celebrities to be threatened or killed by obsessed fans. 
 

19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

the Dems and MSM also support political violence: they incited & supported BLM riots from mid 2014-2017 and then again thru summer 2020. 

Bullshit. More of your crazy nonsense. 
 

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

the attack on Paul Pelosi, but don't mention Rand Paul

OMG.

1) Republicans including many on this forum laughed and cheered the Paul Pelosi attack and circulated blatantly false lies about it involving gay sex, male prostitutes etc when in fact it was a mentally ill person who fixated by right wing conspiracies and rhetoric about Pelosi.  Trump Jr even tweeted jokes about it. That is the depravity of the MAGAverse

2) Rand Paul was not the victim of a political attack. He was in an altercation with his next door neighbour over yard waste and demonstrated that he can’t take a punch. 
 

The Republicans sunk a new level of vileness ever since Obama was elected and republicans began openly the N word and other racist references and soon after  the Cword for Hillary. Then came the false pedophile conspiracy accusations pizzagate, and so on. And you conveniently forget the right wing anti-feminist “man’s rights activist” with ties to Russia Roy Den Holander who murdered the family of “Latina” judge he deemed too progressive….or the nutjob Trump supporter mailing out mail bombs during Trumps first term. Or right wing kook Alex Jones and all the truly deplorable things he’s said for decades. Before that Rush Limbagh amd others claiming even moderate liberals are secretly Stalinists trying to impose communism…in true fashion you’re oblivious to all that but pretend to clutch your pearls over the word “deplorable”. 

[User]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

This cannot be a real conversation. Coups are--almost by definition--illegal. All that is required for success is to have the right people in the right positions of power at the right times. Coups short circuit the law or disregard it altogether. They succeed if they are well executed.

You just provided a memo explaining how this would work (only part of the way as I pointed out), when it outlined numerous legal theories that would have to play out all in their favor. 

What was the coup? Exactly how would it have succeeded?
 

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

The content of their plan is exactly how it played out--with the one dealbreaker being Pence. The other necessary components were operationalized. They tried their hardest to make it happen--including Trump sicking the mob on Pence. 

So... you can't actually explain how this would have worked. You think if Pence went along with it... that all the legal pieces after perfectly fall in place in their favor? 

So... you think the memo outlines a perfectly lawful way of doing things?

No, Trump did not sick any mob on Pence. That is a dumb lie. 

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Yes, indeed, it would have--a fight with no rules.

So... you still have no answer for how this works. If it is a mater of just creating chaos, then Trump could just declare himself king and dictator for life... do you think that works? No, obviously not. No one is going to go along with that just because there is chaos. 

The simple fact is that had Pence gone along with this, there may have been some initial fuss, but that would quickly have been stomped right out as not being lawful nor within his powers. 



 

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The White House was not attacked. 

The WH absolutely was attacked, and far more violently than the capitol. Actual weapons were brought to the WH and used against defenders at the WH, dummy. The only difference is that the line was drawn outside at the WH, while Pelosi's plan for the capitol was to get people isnide so that it was more of an issue. Then they killed a woman t calm things down.

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Baloney. Shooter was republican obsessed with gun culture whose daddy owned a AR-15, which republicans have made a symbol of anti-woke culture. Probably had a Trump obsession and was made he didn’t reply to any of his love letters. It’s not uncommon for celebrities to be threatened or killed by obsessed fans. 

The shooter was a 13 year old kid when the MSM and Dems started brainwashing him. He actually sent donations to left wing causes.

He was just registered as a republican to get more info and access.

 

The fact remains that I've cited several actual, well-documented instances of Dems and elite leftists openly talking about physically intimidating, harassing, and even assassinating Trump and members of the GOP. They've incited riots for years. They've incited violence and given tacit approval afterwards. They've bailed violent criminal rioters out of jail so that they could attend more riots. 

You have NO comparables from the GOP side. Go fish. 

Edited July 15 by WestCanMan

[Nationalist]

36 minutes ago, robosmith said:

WCM, I can tell from your political slant that you don't have a pair of big boy pants

This is amusing...

Hey robo-nonse...would you suggest to earn his "big boy pants"...according to Libbie doctrine...that WCM try to murder Brandon?

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

So, basically isn't Hitler. 

You know they're wracking their brains on how to say no but also yes   

He'll be 'hitler-esque" or 'Hitlerish". or hitler light, all the flavour but less filling than regular hitler. 

Then the new comparisons will come.  "You know, hitler was almost assassinated once too....." 

[Hodad]

43 minutes ago, User said:

You just provided a memo explaining how this would work (only part of the way as I pointed out), when it outlined numerous legal theories that would have to play out all in their favor. 

What was the coup? Exactly how would it have succeeded?
 

So... you can't actually explain how this would have worked. You think if Pence went along with it... that all the legal pieces after perfectly fall in place in their favor? 

So... you think the memo outlines a perfectly lawful way of doing things?

No, Trump did not sick any mob on Pence. That is a dumb lie. 

So... you still have no answer for how this works. If it is a mater of just creating chaos, then Trump could just declare himself king and dictator for life... do you think that works? No, obviously not. No one is going to go along with that just because there is chaos. 

The simple fact is that had Pence gone along with this, there may have been some initial fuss, but that would quickly have been stomped right out as not being lawful nor within his powers. 



 

Okay, wave your hands and pretend it didn't happen--that these were just "legal theories." Wave 'em all around like a confused baby T-rex. Have fun with that. 

Meanwhile, back in reality there were prescribed actions taken by Trump and his co-conspirators to overturn democracy and seize power--a plot foiled by Vice President Pence. 

It's not even that you can't understand what transpired. You just don't have any interest in doing so because you'd like him to have another bite at the apple. For shame.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

The White House was not attacked. 
 

Baloney. Shooter was republican obsessed with gun culture whose daddy owned a AR-15, which republicans have made a symbol of anti-woke culture. Probably had a Trump obsession and was made he didn’t reply to any of his love letters. It’s not uncommon for celebrities to be threatened or killed by obsessed fans. 
 

Bullshit. More of your crazy nonsense. 
 

OMG.

1) Republicans including many on this forum laughed and cheered the Paul Pelosi attack and circulated blatantly false lies about it involving gay sex, male prostitutes etc when in fact it was a mentally ill person who fixated by right wing conspiracies and rhetoric about Pelosi.  Trump Jr even tweeted jokes about it. That is the depravity of the MAGAverse

2) Rand Paul was not the victim of a political attack. He was in an altercation with his next door neighbour over yard waste and demonstrated that he can’t take a punch. 
 

The Republicans sunk a new level of vileness ever since Obama was elected and republicans began openly the N word and other racist references and soon after  the Cword for Hillary. Then came the false pedophile conspiracy accusations pizzagate, and so on. And you conveniently forget the right wing anti-feminist “man’s rights activist” with ties to Russia Roy Den Holander who murdered the family of “Latina” judge he deemed too progressive….or the nutjob Trump supporter mailing out mail bombs during Trumps first term. Or right wing kook Alex Jones and all the truly deplorable things he’s said for decades. Before that Rush Limbagh amd others claiming even moderate liberals are secretly Stalinists trying to impose communism…in true fashion you’re oblivious to all that but pretend to clutch your pearls over the word “deplorable”. 

Actually:

Protesters knock down White House security barricades as tensions mount over Floyd’s death

[User]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Okay, wave your hands and pretend it didn't happen--that these were just "legal theories." Wave 'em all around like a confused baby T-rex. Have fun with that. 

LOL, they were literally legal theories that had not been tested like this. You are the one saying they would work, with no further explanation, while also saying they were unlawful. 

You make sense of the contradictory nonsense you are selling here. I am just pointing it out. 

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Meanwhile, back in reality there were prescribed actions taken by Trump and his co-conspirators to overturn democracy and seize power--a plot foiled by Vice President Pence. 

Foiled... LOL. 

So, how would it have succeeded had Pence gone along with it?

5 minutes ago, Hodad said:

It's not even that you can't understand what transpired. You just don't have any interest in doing so because you'd like him to have another bite at the apple. For shame.

I have repeatedly asked you to explain yourself. Your refusal and inability to do so is not a lack of understanding on my part. 

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Like I SAID, Hitler wanna be.

Wannabe. Essentially, not Hitler.

Calling him a dictator is essentially fear mongering, to get votes. There is literally no accuracy to the statement.

He is in awe of dictators but so are other politicians. A couple things would get in Trump's way. Laws, and several other things not limited to a heavily armed population.

I think what you're really trying to say is that Trump is an a**hole.

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

And Hitler wasn't Hitler

So you predict he will be Hitler based on no evidence, but are calling him Hitler now, to get used to the ring of it.

 

[impartialobserver]

glad that Trump survived. As to if this helps him win.. not quite so sure. I think that we have to give it a few weeks.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

Biden wasn't flying that drone, nor did he authorize that strike, lDIOT.

Like User said earlier, Biden sure did brag about it, and I'll add: he verbally took ownership of that strike in doing so, which constitutes ratification. (Legally, you can ratify a document which was signed at an earlier date, and upon doing so the legal effect of that is the same as if you were there on the day it was signed. Joe acted like it was his strike until he didn't want it to be his strike anymore... Sorry, no take-backs)

Also, he said that there would be retaliation, so while it's possible that they couldn't wake him up from his 2nd afternoon nap to authorize that particular strike, it was his publicly declared intent that there would be a reprisal, so even if he wasn't on-hand to authorize it in that exact moment, it was still something that he pre-authorized (leftists: that means 'authorized in advance') and then verbally ratified (after the fact).

Make no mistake about it roboboy: JOE PRE-AUTHORIZED THAT STRIKE AND THEN HE TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THAT STRIKE WHEN HE THOUGHT IT WAS COOL, which actually makes it worse because it extends the strike past the planning stage and attack stage into the post-attack stage, when they had more time to assess it.

 

Think about Trump's strike in more detail: they stalked that general for God knows how long, and then Trump put his presidential stamp on that missile to be fired killing an Iranian general. Iran is no laughing matter. They have a huge army and are massively influential among terrorists all over the world. Suleimani was a terrorist icon, and by killing him, Trump put a bullseye on his own back. It was incredibly bold of Trump to do that, the attack was extremely well-conceived, perfectly planned (it even happened outside of Iran, which where it would have had far greater implications for the US), and if you really think about it, it's one of the purest military actions in the entire history of warfare... Trump essentially bit the head off the snake. By comparison, the vast majority of military campaigns involve sovereigns forcing peons to kill each other and/or die trying. They even target women and children. Trump went mano-a-mano and just plucked a general off the board. It's like winning the queen for a pawn (the Iranians used their proxies to kill one American contractor and Trump went directly for Suleimani). It was a master class in "F around and find out" for the ages. Trump absolutely kicked ass. Sun Tzu would have masturbated to that if he was alive. 

Now Biden's drone strike: Biden's comedy of errors - including ditching heavily protected Bagram in favour of an indefensible public airport, releasing the prisoners there in the process, offending the Taliban who already knew he was weak, and alienating all of America's allies in Afghanistan by cutting communications with them and basically making it an "every man for himself" withdrawal - led to a highly successful attack by Al Qaeda (who had laid dormant for so long while Trump was president that everyone thought they were goners), killing 13 American servicemen and injuring several others. Then Biden's side was somehow unprepared to find an appropriate target to counterattack, so they ended up just blasting away at some car that happened to be full of children. It was poor/hasty planning by the Biden team, which was the result of his own prior lack of planning and preparation for the withdrawal in general, and the Taliban's reliance on Joe's weakness. The strike was a complete military disaster, so not only did America kill a bunch of innocent kids, there ended up never being any form of retaliation whatsoever for the bomb that killed 13 serviceman to this day. All that happened was a huge "We have $80 billion worth of US weapons and we just killed 13 Americans" party on 9/11 of all days. That's it. Game, set and match. Taliban 13, US -10. Put your tail between your legs Joe, strand a bunch of Americans in Afghanistan, and have planes running out with people clinging to the sides. It was like a comedy of errors but instead of humour, people were just dying and being abandoned to be tortured to death. 

The Afghans now have a huge national day of "laughing at America" on 9/11, and Americans just have to sit there in silence and let them party. 

If Trump gets elected, I wouldn't be surprised to see a drone strike kill a bunch of Taliban/Al Qaeda leaders on 9/11 in 2025, 2026, 2027 or 2028. You heard it here first. 

Edited July 15 by WestCanMan

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

He'll be 'hitler-esque" or 'Hitlerish". or hitler light, all the flavour but less filling than regular hitler. 

You can't compare Trump to Hitler, and give George W Bush a free pass. I don't get their logic.

State Trump is dangerous for women, then awkwardly avoid eye contact with Bill Clinton.

Trump is incompetent, then ignore the fact you literally have a corpse in the white house right now. 

You're otherwise making the comparison based on not liking him, vs what he did which for the latter would justify the term being used.

Or am I missing something?

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You can't compare Trump to Hitler, and give George W Bush a free pass. I don't get their logic.

State Trump is dangerous for women, then awkwardly avoid eye contact with Bill Clinton.

Trump is incompetent, then ignore the fact you literally have a corpse in the white house right now. 

You're otherwise making the comparison based on not liking him, vs what he did which for the latter would justify the term being used.

Or am I missing something?

 

That's about right. 

The challenges that in days gone by most of the discussion was about the political discourse. We think democrats are wrong or right for these reasons, we think republicans are wrong or right for these these reasons.

Now the only purpose to any political discussion is to demonize the other tribe. And there's a sense that if you talk fast and loud enough then you can ignore the inconvenient truth that your side isn't much better a lot of the time 

[Hodad]

46 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, they were literally legal theories that had not been tested like this. You are the one saying they would work, with no further explanation, while also saying they were unlawful. 

You make sense of the contradictory nonsense you are selling here. I am just pointing it out. 

Foiled... LOL. 

So, how would it have succeeded had Pence gone along with it?

I have repeatedly asked you to explain yourself. Your refusal and inability to do so is not a lack of understanding on my part. 

Disingenuous denial and hand waving. Apparently that's all you're good for.