I am Groot Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, sharkman said: Prove it. Let’s see the physical manifestation of this with Trump. No? LOL. I knew it! All the strange, rambling speeches and screwed-up introductions and weird assed tweets and you still think the guy has all his faculties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, I am Groot said: LOL. I knew it! All the strange, rambling speeches and screwed-up introductions and weird assed tweets and you still think the guy has all his faculties! That’s what I thought. You’ve got nothing, but ignore the MSM downplaying Biden’s slurring, mumbling and forgetting names and how to get off the stage. Shaking hands with the air. You better get an emotional support animal too, because when Trump wins, which is now guaranteed, you will lose it entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 38 minutes ago, Hodad said: A. No one actually believed these were legitimate theories. Eastman himself admitted the scheme was illegal. It was a facade for a coup. Hence why Eastman asked for a pardon. If they were not legal... how would they have succeeded? 38 minutes ago, Hodad said: B. I did answer your question. Nothing has to "go their way." If Pence had agreed the deed--and the damage--would have been done. No, you didn't. I asked you to explain how this would play out to that it would have worked. You didn't offer anything other than their plan. What damage would have been done? The moment Pence tried to do anything, it would have been instantly fought over. Yet, you just presume it would have worked, until I challenged you... now you are trying to have it both ways and still have not actually explained how this would have ended our Republic. 40 minutes ago, Hodad said: There is no process or procedure in our system of government to respond to a coup. The founding fathers didn't account for the unimaginable. And there is no restorative remedy for a coup that has destroyed confidence to a system of government, whether it survives or not. The same fools who believe the election was stolen would have believed the coup justified. Of course there is a process. You think that just because Trump declares himself to be King, that he becomes one? You really have no intelligent thoughts here at all. None what-so-ever. You just mindlessly parrot the talking point. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 8 hours ago, sharkman said: Act Blue, a far left political organization This comment suggests you don't know what far left means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: "You better fight like hell or you're not even going to have a country anymore." Literally every politician has used the word fight in a speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffypants Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: Literally every politician has used the word fight in a speech. They use bloodbath, fight etc all the time but Trump makes it special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: So how is Trump more Hitler-esque? Historians would say he is more of a proto-fascist. I think he's way too dumb for that comparison, but the ethno-nationalist populism he's mobilized put his movement on that trajectory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 9 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Everything happens for a reason. Not true. Random chance happens more often than you think 9 hours ago, Perspektiv said: If he believes in God He likely doesn’t 9 hours ago, Perspektiv said: He handles this like a proper leader Standard formality, it would be hard to find a politician who didn’t express condolences…although if you had to place your money one someone NOT giving his condolences it would be Trump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: He's hardly the first candidate to believe that and look for legal recourse. Yes he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 4 hours ago, sharkman said: Apparently you are unaware of the democrat strategy to registrar as a republican so you can try to sway a republican primary. No idea what the shooter was(rep/dem), but giving money to a political organization when you are so young, that's an activist right there. Omg come on! One $15 donation when he was 17. Probably did it to impress a girl or because he was too shy to say no. He still went on to register republican and his daddy owned a AR-15 which republicans have made into a right wing virtue-signaling meme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...you'll see... Sally...you lie as a matter of course. Why do you think so many people laugh at you? Haven't noticed anyone laughing, not that I care what you MAGA RUBES believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: J6 comitte has be resounding debunked. Yes I watched it. I watched the aid lie about Trump lunging at the USSS agent. I watched them mischaracterize theories and ideas that never went beyond spit balling as plans that failed. And I noted that Trump was never charged with anything related to J6. All you have is hyperbole, exaggeration and imagination. You don't even know what Cassidy Hutchinson testified. In FACT Trump HAS been indicted related to Jan 6th. That is what I mean by you being IGNORANT due to only watching FOS LIES. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 Islamic Republic is likely behind the assassination attempt. Its leader and also the commander of IRGC had vowed to revenge the killing of Ghassem Solaimani who was assassinated by Trump in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, Five of swords said: So...of course he could never win an election He might with all the voter suppression going on in red states. But he'll NEVER win the popular vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, Hodad said: Tabula rasa man has entered the chat! You could just read the memo. It's presented in bullet point format. 🙄 VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required). When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of "electors appointed" – the language of the 12th Amendment – is 454. This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. A "majority of the electors appointed" would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected. Howls, of course, from the Democrats, who now claim, contrary to Tribe's prior position, that 270 is required. So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote ..." Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well. One last piece. Assuming the Electoral Count Act process is followed and, upon getting the objections to the Arizona slates, the two houses break into their separate chambers, we should not allow the Electoral Count Act constraint on debate to control. That would mean that a prior legislature was determining the rules of the present one – a constitutional no-no (as Tribe has forcefully argued). So someone – Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. – should demand normal rules (which includes the filibuster). That creates a stalemate that would give the state legislatures more time to weigh in to formally support the alternate slate of electors, if they had not already done so. The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court, where Tribe (who in 2001 conceded the President of the Senate might be in charge of counting the votes) and others who would press a lawsuit would have their past position – that these are non-justiciable political questions – thrown back at them, to get the lawsuit dismissed. The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter. We should take all of our actions with that in mind. You have the patience of a saint, but I doubt it will be rewarded when Luser posts his "that's wrong" rebuttal. LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: You mocking them doesn't change that. You believing that doesn't make it true. Although it may help YOU achieve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, robosmith said: Haven't noticed anyone laughing, not that I care what you MAGA RUBES believe. Sure ya do. We all laugh at you daily. But chin-up little buckaroo, Trump still lives and Brandon is still an addled old fool. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 14 Report Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: How many has he killed? Personally? None that I know of, although he did look the other way when MBS had Khashoggi murdered. And he ordered the murder of several including Soleimani, and al-Baghdadi The Killing of Qassem Soleimani > ... JAG Reporter (.mil) https://www.jagreporter.af.mil › Post › Article › the-kill... Oct 29, 2020 — Assassination or Lawful Military Strike? Did President Trump violate international law when he directed the strike on Soleimani? This article ... National Archives (.gov) https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov › remarks-preside... Remarks by President Trump on the Death of ISIS Leader Abu ... Oct 27, 2019 — THE PRESIDENT: Last night, the United States brought the world's number one terrorist leader to justice. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead. He was ... 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Didn't George W Bush kill hundreds of thousands? Probably 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: So how is Trump more Hitler-esque? They were collateral damage in pursuit of nukes. 🤮 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: So he will be Hitler? Am confused. He obviously didn't try. Duh 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Sounds more fear mongery than actual, with your elaborating on it. Kind of like saying if Biden is elected, the world will end. You've yet to enumerate any. So, leaves me to feel there aren't any? You need to pay more attention, and educate yourself on Hitler's rise to power 2 hours ago, sharkman said: Get this, SFB. This attempt on Trump seals his victory in November. Seals it. So you better get an emotional support animal or something, because with your extremist views you’ll end up barking at the moon with the rest of the brain dead otherwise. Totally your call. You believing ^this does NOT seal the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: LOL. I knew it! All the strange, rambling speeches and screwed-up introductions and weird assed tweets and you still think the guy has all his faculties! Uh-huh, notwithstanding the confused piece of shit that's occupying the White House lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 4 hours ago, sharkman said: Like Biden's atrocious debate performance, which FORCED the media to admit something that the right has known for 3 years. Biden has dementia. Sorry Dr. Shark, but the only thing your amateur diagnosis means is you have delusions of grandeur. LMAO You OBVIOUSLY have confused Mild Cognitive Impairment for Dementia cause you don't know the symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Literally every politician has used the word fight in a speech. Not in front of an armed mob wearing body armor, who were summoned there to stop the steal on the exact day the EC vote was being certified. You are really desperate and LAME. Or terribly naive. 1 hour ago, Fluffypants said: They use bloodbath, fight etc all the time but Trump makes it special. Yeah, it's HIS DOUBLE TALK that FOOLS the MAGA CULT like YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Sure ya do. We all laugh at you daily. But chin-up little buckaroo, Trump still lives and Brandon is still an addled old fool. He's not nearly as addled as YOU. He knows that J6 Felons are not living in Rikers. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 (edited) 32 minutes ago, robosmith said: You OBVIOUSLY have confused Mild Cognitive Impairment for Dementia cause you don't know the symptoms. ROFLMAO... Now it's "Mild Cognative Impairment". Can you hear that, robo-bot? Its laughter. Lots of it. Edited July 15 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 27 minutes ago, robosmith said: He's not nearly as addled as YOU. He knows that J6 Felons are not living in Rikers. LMAO Perhaps. I wonder which state you live in? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 44 minutes ago, robosmith said: Not in front of an armed mob wearing body armor, who were summoned there to stop the steal on the exact day the EC vote was being certified. And I'm making stuff up? You are the problem. You are the reason there was an assassination attempt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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