User Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 41 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: The Bible, especially the old testament is the last place you'll fine humanity. I'm going to plant two different vegetables beside eachother. Seems you have not read it then... Either way, the discussion was not really about your thoughts on the Bible. You can think whatever ignorant things you like. The point being made was that, at least in America, you have Religious Freedom and can read The Bible in school. 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Legato Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 1 hour ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: I'm going to plant two different vegetables beside eachother. Onions and carrots. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 1 hour ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: 1. Can we please stop with this nonsense that Conservatives only want to cut taxes and reduce immigration. 2. Conservatism nowadays is authoritarian. Social Conservatism is just another word for Fascism. One country, one religion, one language. Core tenants of Fascism 1. Mythical past. 2. Accuse the other side to which you yourself are guilty of. 3. Make the media the enemy. 4. If you can convince one portion of the population, that they're better than another portion, you'll have them eating out of the palm of your hand. 1. As a conservative, I do agree. But I didn't say that either. 2. Semantic drift affects everybody. I am going to start a telethon. 1. 2. 3. 4. Not sure how this would help us but ok. I like the "Ramones" numbering for the points btw... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Black Dog Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Venandi said: Pretty close to my take on things, I took the liberty of making a few editorial changes: Liberalism nowadays is authoritarian. Social Justice Warriors and ANTIFA are just other words for Fascism. One country, one religion (wokeness), one language. Core tenants of Fascism 1. Denying, rewriting and cancelling the past. 2. Accuse the other side to which you yourself are guilty of. 3. Incorporate the media into a trinity of government and weaponized security establishments. 4. If you can convince one portion of the population that they're better than another portion, you'll have them eating out of the palm of your hand. None of those are core tenants of fascism lol you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Fascism is a right-wing, militaristic, ultranationalist ideology which calls for a return to a mythologized and imaginary past and the destruction of the "others" to name just a few key traits. 1 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
herbie Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 (edited) If you imply that any group of people walking naked down the street for any reason are perverts, you are the one defective not them. Edited July 2 by herbie Quote
Goddess Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 7 minutes ago, herbie said: If you imply that any group of people walking naked down the street for any reason are perverts, you are the one defective not them. It wasn't long ago that women tried the topless thing and everyone went apeshit about it. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Venandi Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: None of those are core tenants of fascism lol Missed the point entirely I see... BTW, was there a BOGO sale at the LOL store? It seems that like minded folks on this forum all shop there? I simply reflected the previous post back with as few changes as possible. But since you brought it up, I think you left out a few things: It also tends to exalt race above the individual and tends to favour a centralized autocratic government willing to impose its will on others and do it in an arrogant / domineering manner. It includes regimentation and suppression of opposition, and usually includes deference to ruling elites.... ring any bells? LOL LOL LOL LOL Quote
User Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 3 hours ago, herbie said: If you imply that any group of people walking naked down the street for any reason are perverts, you are the one defective not them. What is this, backwards bonzo world to you now? 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Michael Hardner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 3 hours ago, herbie said: If you imply that any group of people walking naked down the street for any reason are perverts, you are the one defective not them. Strange. I didn't watch the video and assumed it was a lot worse. Nudity isn't so bad, parents should assume that they'll be some nudity if they bring their kids. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
I am Groot Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 23 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Have Palestinians done anything to make society better in North America, since first coming over here? It's an honest question, as they are arguably the most toxic people in the World. We should have never allowed Palestinians anywhere near Canada, and if Trudeau admits thousands of them, as the plan is right now, I will not be voting for him. You could say pretty much the same of Muslims in general. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 4 hours ago, Goddess said: It wasn't long ago that women tried the topless thing and everyone went apeshit about it. Actually, they legalised going topless in Ontario, unless it is for purposes of selling sex. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. As a conservative, I do agree. But I didn't say that either. 2. Semantic drift affects everybody. I am going to start a telethon. 1. 2. 3. 4. Not sure how this would help us but ok. I like the "Ramones" numbering for the points btw... As a liar you make a better liberal than a conservative. Ten more complete fabrications and you get a set of steak knives custom signed by trudeua himself Quote
blackbird Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 (edited) 10 hours ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: Conservatism nowadays is authoritarian. Social Conservatism is just another word for Fascism. Not sure how you equate conservatism with Fascism. fas·cism [ˈfaSHˌizəm] noun an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. There is no similarity to Fascism and the Conservative Party in Canada and definitely no similarity to social Conservativism. You do not appear to have any idea what you are talking about. We have an authoritarian type of government now in Canada. The imposition of carbon taxes on everyone is an authoritarian measure and it is a scam. The controls imposed on the internet is another authoritarian law. Imposing SOGI on young people in the public school system is authoritarian and forcing a certain liberal-progressive ideology on them. Edited July 3 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 (edited) 12 hours ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: Social Conservatism is just another word for Fascism. It appears you are playing loose with words and making things up. "Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism, fascism is placed on the far-right wing within the traditional left–right spectrum." - Wikipedia "Social conservatism is a political philosophy and a variety of conservatism which places emphasis on traditional social structures over social pluralism.[1][2] Social conservatives organize in favor of duty, traditional values and social institutions, such as traditional family structures, gender roles, sexual relations, national patriotism, and religious traditions.[3][4] Social conservatism is usually skeptical of social change, instead tending to support the status quo concerning social issues.[4] Social conservatives also value the rights of religious institutions to participate in the public sphere, thus often supporting government-religious endorsement and opposing state atheism, and in some cases opposing secularism.[5][6][7]" - Wikipedia Edited July 3 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 (edited) 13 hours ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: The Bible, especially the old testament is the last place you'll fine humanity. You really need to study the Bible under the guidance of someone or some organization that understands it properly. The Old Testament is partly a history of Israel and God's dealing with them. It is easy to misunderstand it if you just heard some verses pulled out of it without understanding the context and period in time. Edited July 3 by blackbird Quote
West Posted July 3 Author Report Posted July 3 10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. As a conservative, I do agree. But I didn't say that either. 2. Semantic drift affects everybody. I am going to start a telethon. 1. 2. 3. 4. Not sure how this would help us but ok. I like the "Ramones" numbering for the points btw... Are you fiscally conservative, socially conservative or both Quote
CdnFox Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 59 minutes ago, West said: Are you fiscally conservative, socially conservative or both He's fake conservative He's just ashamed of the people he does support right now. Who can blame him? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 6 hours ago, West said: Are you fiscally conservative, socially conservative or both Kind of both, thanks for asking. I believe mostly in the institutions of freedom and in the public sphere. I believe in prudent spending, and ensuring that wealth is distributed naturally by allowing responsible and balanced agents to grow the economy. I believe in the freedom of religions, and that individuals and groups should discuss our public morality separate from personal morality. 2 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Kind of both, thanks for asking. I believe mostly in the institutions of freedom and in the public sphere. I believe in prudent spending, and ensuring that wealth is distributed naturally by allowing responsible and balanced agents to grow the economy. I believe in the freedom of religions, and that individuals and groups should discuss our public morality separate from personal morality. Pretty much every single post you make here shows that this is a lie. You do not believe in the 'freedoms' of our society and believe they should be heavily regulated and controlled by the state. You believe in and support deficit spending and higher taxes. And your definition of 'balanced agents' is the gov't doing what you think is best to 'distribute income'. And you call anyone who disagrees with your position a 'chud', and you frequently post how you didn't read the opinion of whomever you're debating with because you weren't interested in their point of view, and that's in the middle of a discussion with them. You are about as conservative as rosie o'donnel. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: 1. Pretty much every single post you make here shows that this is a lie. You do not believe in the 'freedoms' of our society and believe they should be heavily regulated and controlled by the state. You believe in and support deficit spending and higher taxes. And your definition of 'balanced agents' is the gov't doing what you think is best to 'distribute income'. 2. And you call anyone who disagrees with your position a 'chud', ... 1. Almost entirely made up by you, which is why you did your usual habit of zero cites. I have criticized Trump, for example, for deficit spending in good times. Did you? 2. Again zero cites. I try not to insult people or call them names, and when I do I usually apologize. Have a day. Not a great one, but just a day. 😐 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CITIZEN_2015 Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 On 7/1/2024 at 2:57 PM, taxme said: The straight guy. The white guy. The Christian guy. The man guy. But we all know that by now, right? 🤔 So I was right to say white heterosexual men have the least rights. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: So I was right to say white heterosexual men have the least rights. In theory or practice? There are lots of examples of the system punishing white 🤍 collar crimes more lightly than you'd think, for example. But justice is an amorphous value. I'd say anyone discussing that has to agree, just to talk about the topic. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 (edited) On 7/1/2024 at 9:39 AM, Venandi said: That's exactly how I felt about it too, no more. Sooooo very tired of it all, no more negotiations, no more tolerance, no more good will... I want this crushed. Talk about self inflicted harm, all they had to do was nothing. Exactly what I thought I was supporting. There will be no fooling me next time... the answer will be hell no. My own gay son feels the same way and would not attend. What went on was disgusting and illegal. Round them all up and toss 'em all in jail. Edited July 3 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Almost entirely made up by you, which is why you did your usual habit of zero cites. I have criticized Trump, for example, for deficit spending in good times. Did you? LOL Wow that is some bad timing big guy - it was literally yesterday or the day before when i last criticized him for that very thing. I mentioned i was disappointed that he had embraced deficit spending and i was old enough to remember when conservatives thought being fiscally responsible meant having NO deficit or at least a very marginal one. (someone was pointing out trump's was considerably lower than biden's). Swing and a miss there kiddo LOLOL As to being made up, nope. I point it out to your regularly, when you pull that crap i call you on it whenever i see it, which is something you actually asked me to do. So you're well 'pre-cited' Did you want me to dig up an example of you calling someone a chud? I can do that if it will make you feel better. But we both know you call people chuds. So your request for a cite just shows you know i'm right and are dodging the issue. Mike. You're not a conservative, and you're not being honest here. And i call you out for it every single time and frequently point to quotes where you've made your left wing preferences abundantly clear. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: 1. Wow that is some bad timing big guy - it was literally yesterday or the day before when i last criticized him for that very thing. 2. I point it out to your regularly, when you pull that crap i call you on it whenever i see it, which is something you actually asked me to do. So you're well 'pre-cited' 3. Did you want me to dig up an example of you calling someone a chud? I can do that if it will make you feel better. 4. Mike. You're not a conservative, and you're not being honest here. 1. Ok cool. 2. Ok... I have missed this. 3. Yes please, and when I respond I'll apologize if I insulted any poster directly. 4. Funny, we seem to have different values about respecting poster identity. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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