Gay Pride Season.

[taxme]

So, can anyone explain to me as to why we must keep celebrating this gay pride stuff? Is there really a good reason for having what they are now calling a gay pride "Season" and have this kind of season pushed on us all, not for a month, but it seems forever. We already know that they are among us and that they are not being discriminated against any longer. They now have the rights and freedoms to be all the gay that they want to be. As Jordan Peterson calls it, it is not a month of celebration for being gay any longer, but it is now a season to pretty much go on forever. 

Enough already. We know that they are there and it is time to stop them from continuing to try and push their gay lifestyle agenda on we the people out in the open. We do not have any heterosexual parades, which we should know by now that would never be allowed to happen,  and put it back in the closet where it belongs.

It is quite obvious to me and many others that this is just another stupid Castro Trudeau agenda being pushed by the Marxist because he may be one of them himself or so the rumor goes. Maybe this is why his wife left him. He probably likes boys now. Hey, we never know, eh? 

Anyway, any thoughts about this declaration of a Pride Season, and why do we need to put up with this gay nonsense? What say you? 🤗

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, taxme said:

why do we need to put up with this gay nonsense?

Beat them or join them?

They are the loudest minority. 

Not worth the fight.

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Beat them or join them?

They are the loudest minority. 

Not worth the fight.

They've become worth the fight for many after claiming parents have no rights and demanding participation in schools. At least for a lot of people. 

Bud light certainly would disagree that everyone feels that way  

Like misbehaving children, their activists push the boundries to see how far they can go and then they go too far and then suddenly people get fed up and there's a backlash. 

[August1991]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

So, can anyone explain to me as to why we must keep celebrating this gay pride stuff?

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People are people.

Indviduals, whatever. As you wish.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Like misbehaving children, their activists push the boundries to see how far they can go and then they go too far and then suddenly people get fed up and there's a backlash. 

In constantly doing so, they have expanded what boundaries that they have, significantly. 

Now if you see a man with a beard and pigtails serving you fries with "she/her" on their name tag, many would go out of their way not to laugh.

Moreover, their employers would likely accept this being a woman.

Gyms would be uncomfortable challenging such a person showering with women. Balls, d*** and all.

Like I said. Many are just rolling their eyes at most of their antics, and only truly fighting when they are directly affected.

I see it as no different. They want a gay year, give them a gay year.

Coca cola changes their name to gay lisp friendly "Sweetened, cola super spritzer", let them.

I used to work with a person who had managed to find strawberry spritzers sweetened with sucralose. Had this heightened joy in telling you about it.

Was like, dude I know you're gay. You don't need to convince me. Your eyebrows look better than a female model. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

In constantly doing so, they have expanded what boundaries that they have, significantly. 

Now if you see a man with a beard and pigtails serving you fries with "she/her" on their name tag, many would go out of their way not to laugh.

Moreover, their employers would likely accept this being a woman.

Gyms would be uncomfortable challenging such a person showering with women. Balls, d*** and all.

Like I said. Many are just rolling their eyes at most of their antics, and only truly fighting when they are directly affected.

I see it as no different. They want a gay year, give them a gay year.

Coca cola changes their name to gay lisp friendly "Sweetened, cola super spritzer", let them.

I used to work with a person who had managed to find strawberry spritzers sweetened with sucralose. Had this heightened joy in telling you about it.

Was like, dude I know you're gay. You don't need to convince me. Your eyebrows look better than a female model. 

Sure. They want a fair number of rights. Most of which I think most people would have said they should have in the beginning.

However that tide has turned. There are parades in large numbers pushing back against them. Children are stomping on gay pride flags in the streets. A number of provinces have passed laws granting parental rights forbidding teachers from hiding transgender status from the parents. A fair bit of literature that was considered okay till people found out what was in it has been removed from schools or at least from elementary schools. And the stage is set for more if it comes to it.

It went a little too far and now the tide is turning. I don't think we'll see any massive rollback of rights. Like I said, I think the vast majority of people supported most of the rights to begin with but I think the people have learned that it's okay to push back and say no if they don't like whatever the trans or gays are asking for tomorrow

[Army Guy]

I have to agree with most of what your have said. with a couple of exceptions, it personal does not bother me who or what you want to be called personally i always ask the waiter or waitress their name and stick to that..

I have had my own business and have made it a point to hire the best person with the most qualifications first, i did not have a chart on the wall with quotas for race or gender...

Gyms, here on the base they have gone to a family type change room, want to change into other cloths or bathing suit you change in a change room with a door, and bench...there are no getting naked in the open any more...in the shower you must keep your bathing suit on at all times, until it is time to change then back into the changing room or change closet what ever you want to call it...

I'm ok with all their antics as long as i'm not forced into their fantasy world...like being call a cat, dog, or the infinite amount of genders they think of... I'm polite about it all of it , until they are not... 

Gays have been in the military for decades, nobody really cared even in the Infantry, as long as they kept that to themselves.... today it is a little different where they can where whatever uniform or form of uniform they want...frankly it does not look professional and yes it matters... 

What is out of bounds is children and education, which is being forced on all children at all grade levels...that is a line that has been forced on all parents regardless of religion, race, or creed...

[Zeitgeist]

Judge not lest ye be judged.

He who hasn’t sinned cast the first stone.

Now go and sin no more.

—-

I know the Biblical quotes don’t specifically address this month in our context, but basically that’s about it.  There are natural paths that we respect.  The family is the cornerstone of a healthy society.  People who stray from those paths do so at their own risk.  Where it becomes an issue at the political level is when people start demanding that children be exposed to or taught that leaving these paths is just fine and even should be encouraged.  

Edited June 10, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

No one makes you go to thw Santa Claus Parade or the Greek Festival or the Pride Parade. No one's trying to "make" you or your kids gay.

This incessant claiming that they are makes one think in the most Freudian of explanations that you're unconciously insecure of your own sexuality, like deathly afraid that if you're taken up the bum, you'll  like it,

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

No one makes you go to thw Santa Claus Parade or the Greek Festival or the Pride Parade.

Not quite accurate. Which is why a lot of parents are starting to get upset.

In fact you're quite right that they don't force people to go to Santa Claus or Greek festivals or Hanukkah or anything like that. But in fact they are demanding people take Part in pride week in the schools including teachers who may feel otherwise.

Which is why you're not seeing a backlash against santa or the Greeks but you are seeing one against transgender and gay pride events.

Frankly if the gays just kept their festivals and such to themselves the same way everybody else tries to do then it wouldn't be an issue but they are actually trying to force kids to participate. Their entire argument is that it is somehow inclusive. Nothing can be further from the truth but that's their argument.

[Moonlight Graham]

In a free society people should be free to celebrate gayness if they choose, or free to not celebrate it or voice their disagreement about it.

[Venandi]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Which is why you're not seeing a backlash against santa or the Greeks but you are seeing one against transgender and gay pride events.

Frankly if the gays just kept their festivals and such to themselves the same way everybody else tries to do then it wouldn't be an issue but they are actually trying to force kids to participate. Their entire argument is that it is somehow inclusive. Nothing can be further from the truth but that's their argument.

Indeed...

And it's breathtaking to me that this seems to be such a difficult concept for some people to download. I can't help but wonder what benefit woke boosters hoped to achieve by alienating the very people whose tolerance and good nature helped them achieve the freedoms they now seek to force on others via "mandatory participation."

It seems to me that some (actually many) people who initially supported transgender / gay rights out of tolerance, respect and good nature now feel duped and regret extending that support in the first place. In terms of measurable backlash, the real question for activists to reflect on is "what did you think was going to happen?"

It seems bizarre, all ya had to do to was nothing, live your life, quietly enjoy the freedoms gained, not be crazy, mind your own business and extend that same courtesy to others. 

I think most people simply assumed that was the goal and that's what they thought they were supporting. I perceive that there's now an underlying sense of betrayal and that's what's fuelling the backlash. There's a potential cost associated with that (I'll call it) betrayal too, in future, the respect, tolerance and goodwill freely given will likely be replaced suspicion, intolerance, and division... not a good trade IMO.

In short, what seems to have gotten lost here is a simple concept wisely summarized below, something I thought was a given in Canada:

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

In a free society people should be free to celebrate gayness if they choose, or free to not celebrate it or voice their disagreement about it.

 

Edited June 10, 2024 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

You don't hear "keep your festivals to yourself" about any other celebrations, so... 

 

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

You don't hear "keep your festivals to yourself" about any other celebrations, so... 

Those celebrations don't require, expect, or assume mandatory participation though, so...

I guess you either get that or you don't, I seem to have foolishly assumed that it was a given in a country like Canada. The Santa Clause Parade isn't mandatory and suggesting that it should be would likely garner a laugh or two from the very conservatives you (appear to be) obliquely slamming here.

If schools were to demand attendance at bible studies or start conducting secret baptisms without parental consent I would object as well... for exactly the same reason and in spite of my own faith. 

What does it take to drive such a simple concept home? I wonder if drag queen bible stories in grade schools would do the trick by causing liberal / progressive heads to explode. 

Instead of searching for that detonation threshold, how about  the concept of you do you with my blessings, you simply mind own business and extend the same courtesy to me?

If that doesn't appeal to you I'd say that it falls to you to suggest something else, because in the absence of a compelling "something else", it's about as much as you can reasonably expect from me. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 10, 2024 by Venandi

[ExFlyer]

We give one day in June to honour the over 4000 men that gave their lives to begin the ending of WWII.

We give one day in November to honour the deaths of  over 8 million people that sacrificed their lives in 20thy century wars.

Yet, we give an entire month to celebrate and fete those that decided to exercise alternative sexual orientation, desires and, deviations that do zero for society except demand recognition.

WTF!!!

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'm ok with all their antics as long as i'm not forced into their fantasy world

I think most rational people agree with this.

My wife works with someone who identifies as nonbinary. 

Born male, but presents as female. Demands to be called they. 

The wife doesn't understand the logic, but I told her not to openly question if she liked working.

She told this person they were gorgeous, in an outfit they were wearing which made them uncomfortable.  But they couldn't get the wife in trouble as was a compliment.

It just makes people walk on eggshells around you, trying to avoid f***ing up on your pronouns.

I was served by a man in a beard with pigtails with "I'm a GURL!" on their t-shirt.

Am professional enough to call her ma'am and not bat an eyelid.

But if am a gynecologist, and this person wants a pap smear....I am not sticking my fingers in your a** and pretend its a vagina to make you feel better about your delusion. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

1. Those celebrations don't require, expect, or assume mandatory participation though, so...

2. If schools were to demand attendance at bible studies or start conducting secret baptisms without parental consent I would object as well... for exactly the same reason and in spite of my own faith. 

3. What does it take to drive such a simple concept home?

1. There are MANDATORY festivals?

2. You're executing a semantic exercise to try to bend your opinion into fact here. 

3. You think it's simple, but it's politics so you have to make an argument that convinces others.  I think that the concept of 'tolerance' is simple but I also see that we need to explain it sometimes.

...

Our education system has always engaged in expressions of culture, including those with a moral aspect.  But they are not religious, and care is taken to proscribe agreeable lines to protect the rights of those who object.  It can be and often is a messy affair.  One example is allowing parents to opt their children out.

But reasonable people understand that such discussions need to be respectful.

25 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

We give one day in June to honour the over 4000 men that gave their lives to begin the ending of WWII.

We give one day in November to honour the deaths of  over 8 million people that sacrificed their lives in 20thy century wars.

Yet, we give an entire month to celebrate and fete those that decided to exercise alternative sexual orientation, desires and, deviations that do zero for society except demand recognition.

WTF!!!

We also give a day for Native People, a Month for Black People, a day for lovers... Etc.

Celebrate or don't.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Yet, we give an entire month to celebrate and fete those that decided to exercise alternative sexual orientation, desires and, deviations that do zero for society except demand recognition.

WTF!!!

Personally, that doesn't bother or even affect me,  I can still put a candle in the window anytime I want.

I still call Canada Day "Dominion Day" and if you're coming to my house on 1 July that's what the email will say in the subject line. If you're offended by that and/or think it should all be cancelled because of 215 graves that remain undiscovered then cool, stay home and mind your own damn business. I don't think that's unreasonable.

Things like white poppies (and other such forms of protests) though are different, they're intended to be disrespectful and they serve as one example of what I mean. I don't do that to others and I expect the same consideration in return.   

 So... expecting me to wear a hockey jury with a rainbow coloured pride flag emblazoned on it will ultimately lead to disappointment, I'm not going to do that. In return for that consideration I don't demand that people stand up during the national anthem, I don't throw rocks at people who burn the flag, I don't insist other people's kids attend remembrance day ceremonies, wear T-shirts that say "Jesus saves" etc etc and on and on.

So really, it comes dow to  picking a fight when all you have to do is.... absolutely nothing.   

Edited June 10, 2024 by Venandi

[Venandi]

31 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You think it's simple, but it's politics so you have to make an argument that convinces others.  I think that the concept of 'tolerance' is simple but I also see that we need to explain it sometimes.

 

For me it is simple. As simple as you do you and mind your own business.

I have to do nothing, that's the point, and you will have a hard time compelling me to wear that jersey.

31 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Celebrate or don't.

Clearly you understand what I'm saying. 

Edited June 10, 2024 by Venandi

[Zeitgeist]

34 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. There are MANDATORY festivals?

2. You're executing a semantic exercise to try to bend your opinion into fact here. 

3. You think it's simple, but it's politics so you have to make an argument that convinces others.  I think that the concept of 'tolerance' is simple but I also see that we need to explain it sometimes.

...

Our education system has always engaged in expressions of culture, including those with a moral aspect.  But they are not religious, and care is taken to proscribe agreeable lines to protect the rights of those who object.  It can be and often is a messy affair.  One example is allowing parents to opt their children out.

But reasonable people understand that such discussions need to be respectful.

We also give a day for Native People, a Month for Black People, a day for lovers... Etc.

Celebrate or don't.

You’re naive and reckless here.  The agenda is clear: Teach children that non-biological gender and multiple forms of sexuality are to be affirmed and celebrated, whether or not such views violate the moral or religious beliefs of parents or science itself.  This isn’t a maybe. This is the reality in almost all public schools.  We don’t allow prayer but we put up pride flags.  I understand the argument that neither should be mandatory, but to depose Christianity and elevate this dubious grab bag of identities and orientations is odd.  To make it part of the curriculum is a social engineering experiment on kids and society that hasn’t happened in any successful civilization. No thanks.  More than enough rights are already granted to the LGBTQ2S+ “community”. Female sports, religious people, science-minded people, and free speech have taken serious blows from which we may not recover.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Nationalist]

13 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Beat them or join them?

They are the loudest minority. 

Not worth the fight.

This is what politics has become. Those who are willing to scream the loudest and the longest win...regardless of common sense.

 

Edited June 10, 2024 by Nationalist

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

.....

We also give a day for Native People, a Month for Black People, a day for lovers... Etc.

Celebrate or don't.

There are far more "black" people that provide benefit to society and natives than sexual alternative people.

But we don't besmirch or demean or embarrass people, towns cities or shops if they don't display symbols of those days. Don't display a pride flag and you are accused of discrimination and more.

Pride parades require police protection and crowd control yet the very people that provide security are not invited...talk about reverse discrimination.

I don't celebrate, Black month, Native days or most of all dress like animals parades.

 

[Nationalist]

I celebrate Christmas.

I celebrate birthdays.

I celebrate Easter.

I celebrate Canada Day.

I celebrate Thanks Giving.

Because my wife is a Euro-babe...I celebrate Name Days.

I do not and will not celebrate skin colours or sexual preference. That's just fckin' stoopid!

 

[Michael Hardner]

44 minutes ago, Venandi said:

1. ... mind your own business.

2. I have to do nothing, that's the point, and you will have a hard time compelling me to wear that jersey.

3. Clearly you understand what I'm saying. 

1. Mind your own business is simple, in terms of a personal values statement but politically difficult to imagine IMO.

2. I'm not trying to.  Again, if it's your personal take, not an issue for politics.

3. Yep.  Happy non pride 😃 🏴

 

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

1. There are far more "black" people that provide benefit to society and natives than sexual alternative people.

2. But we don't besmirch or demean or embarrass people, towns cities or shops if they don't display symbols of those days. Don't display a pride flag and you are accused of discrimination and more.

3. Pride parades require police protection and crowd control yet the very people that provide security are not invited...talk about reverse discrimination.

4. I don't celebrate, Black month, Native days or most of all dress like animals parades.

 

1. How in blazes would someone know that? How would you measure such a thing? And why would you want to? It's not hard to imagine where the measurement of social benefit provided by groups would lead. 

2. Those people took down the symbols because they were pressured as well. This is called politics. If you don't want to allow pressure to put them up, then you have to not allow pressure to take them down. And now you're measuring the utility, social benefit, of people's opinions. 

3. I think they are invited.  I think they have to pay for policing too. And I think they get grants too. And I think tourists come. In other words, it's the same soup of private, public, tourist money and involvement as everything. 

4. Happy non-pride.  😄🏴