Breaking: Verdict Reached in Trump Trial 34 Guilty counts

[myata]

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

this trial has nothing to do with the FBI or DOJ

One would need a working brain to read and understand it. Those tiny black lines and dots, funny!

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s what the fascist thugs of history have always said when they try to seize power 

OMG now you're noticing fascism? 🤣

Did you miss the part where the FBI was committing crimes against a politician? Did you miss the show trials? Did you miss the complete control of the media? Did you miss the latest spate of corrupt judges? Did you miss the barbed wire and army at the capitol? 

Do the Demonrats have to officially swap out old glory for the swastika in order for you to notice what's up? 

[ironstone]

11 hours ago, Hodad said:

You are being ridiculous. Like "lizard people secretly run the world" crazy. Of course he won't impose the maximum sentence. Nowhere remotely close. 

Reset your premise and try again.

If Trump had decided not to run in 2024, this case and all the others would likely never have been brought forward in the first place. We clearly rely on different news sources, yours say that Trump is totally corrupt and worse, the sources I rely on say all of this is unprecedented(it clearly is) and the justice system is literally making mountains out of molehills.

If the Republicans can overcome this lawfare and the inevitable election night 'shenanigans', don't be surprised if they seek payback. 

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I admit you Tweenkies have warped and outright broken the legal system and that you've set a new low.

I hope your new legal precedent is turned on you...

In a very republican state.

Rigged election, rigged trial, MSM fake news.  The only things that are real are the things I want to believe.  The things I don't like aren't true. 

🤡🤡🤡

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Rigged election, rigged trial, MSM fake news.  The only things that are real are the things I want to believe.  The things I don't like aren't true. 

🤡🤡🤡

 

Might as well get ahead of it.  King Obama ?   I'm sure President Biden can sign an executive order to that effect.

[ironstone]

Can Bill Clinton now be charged for paying hush money to Paula Jones?😉

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I admit you Tweenkies have warped and outright broken the legal system and that you've set a new low.

Easy to make ^gratuitous claims, impossible to prove when you have NO EVIDENCE.

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I hope your new legal precedent is turned on you...

You mean the precedent of finally holding Trump accountable for his crimes after decades of taking payoffs to ignore them? 

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

In a very republican state.

Cause you believe Republican states don't require the kind of evidence there was against Trump? LMAO

[Moonbox]

We're focusing on the wrong thing here really.  What we should be talking about here is....

Joe Biden's laptop...

[robosmith]

11 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Can Bill Clinton now be charged for paying hush money to Paula Jones?😉

Did he falsify business records in NY state and/or pay her just before his election to hide something?

 

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

We're focusing on the wrong thing here really.  What we should be talking about here is....

Joe Biden's laptop...

Hunter Biden's witchtop is on for next week.

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, ironstone said:

If Trump had decided not to run in 2024, this case and all the others would likely never have been brought forward in the first place. We clearly rely on different news sources, yours say that Trump is totally corrupt and worse, the sources I rely on say all of this is unprecedented(it clearly is) and the justice system is literally making mountains out of molehills.

If the Republicans can overcome this lawfare and the inevitable election night 'shenanigans', don't be surprised if they seek payback. 

Bragg is on record saying falsified business records prosecutions are ROUTINE in his office.

Do you believe they are NOT? IMO there is a strong temptation for businesses to file false records to avoid taxes.

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, ironstone said:

If Trump had decided not to run in 2024, this case and all the others would likely never have been brought forward in the first place. We clearly rely on different news sources, yours say that Trump is totally corrupt and worse, the sources I rely on say all of this is unprecedented(it clearly is) and the justice system is literally making mountains out of molehills.

If the Republicans can overcome this lawfare and the inevitable election night 'shenanigans', don't be surprised if they seek payback. 

The biggest reason Trump decided to run was to make the cases against him go away.

That's why he declared very early; so he could claim the charges are politically motivated.

Of course you MAGA RUBES bought that....

[ironstone]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Did he falsify business records in NY state and/or pay her just before his election to hide something?

I guess you're right since everybody knows the Clinton's are squeaky clean and not one single time has there been even the slightest hint of impropriety around them.🙄

[robosmith]

42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG now you're noticing fascism? 🤣

Did you miss the part where the FBI was committing crimes against a politician? Did you miss the show trials? Did you miss the complete control of the media? Did you miss the latest spate of corrupt judges? Did you miss the barbed wire and army at the capitol? 

Do the Demonrats have to officially swap out old glory for the swastika in order for you to notice what's up? 

Did you miss the violent invasion of the Capitol to disrupt the EC voter certification?

That's why they put up the fences. Duh

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

I guess you're right since everybody knows the Clinton's are squeaky clean and not one single time has there been even the slightest hint of impropriety around them.🙄

I guess I'm right cause you can't answer the question and deflect with hyperbolic nonsensical strawman.

[Moonbox]

31 minutes ago, ironstone said:

If Trump had decided not to run in 2024, this case and all the others would likely never have been brought forward in the first place.

This investigation started years ago, long before Trump announced he was running in 2024. 

33 minutes ago, ironstone said:

We clearly rely on different news sources, yours say that Trump is totally corrupt and worse, the sources I rely on say all of this is unprecedented(it clearly is) and the justice system is literally making mountains out of molehills.

It's not even about just sources.  He can barely finish a sentence without lying, and the lies are often absurd and fall apart on even cursory fact-checking.  The long parade of folks who've worked with him or for him that he's thrown under the bus or who've resigned out of disgust for the man should be a red flag, but not for the MAGA cult.  

[ironstone]

12 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

This investigation started years ago, long before Trump announced he was running in 2024. 

I would say the entire lawfare thing started to roll from the moment that Trump entered politics, most certainly when he won the nomination.

How many other politicians, past and present, have been subjected to as many investigations as Donald Trump?

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I would say the entire lawfare thing started to roll from the moment that Trump entered politics, most certainly when he won the nomination.

How many other politicians, past and present, have been subjected to as many investigations as Donald Trump?

How many other politicians, past and present, were as blatantly crooked?

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Can Bill Clinton now be charged for paying hush money to Paula Jones?😉

Trump is convicted of falsifying business records, not paying hush money.

[impartialobserver]

I will admit that I am surprised at the outcome. Not sure what I actually expected but not this. As to how impactful this will be.. probably not nearly as impactful as some would like. He can still be elected even if with these convictions. 

[myata]

10 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

probably not nearly as impactful as some would like.

It will have profound impacts in any turn of events. A decisive junction, a landmark. Can any lying conman and convicted felon be the leader of the country? Is it still a democracy? Can it respect itself and have principles and values (what)?

No, nothing can be the same now. It's about the essence, the core not some pageant ritual. Always was, except at some point we seem to have forgotten.

[impartialobserver]

Just now, myata said:

It will have profound impacts in any turn of events. A decisive junction, a landmark. Can any lying conman and convicted felon be the leader of the country? Is it still a democracy? Can it respect itself and have principles and values (what)?

No, nothing can be the same now. It's about the essence, the core not some pageant ritual. Always was, except at some point we seem to have forgotten.

there is no law that explicitly prohibits a presidential candidate from being elected if they have been convicted of a felony. I do not like Trump at all but the law is clear. And it is also clear that his supporters do not care even one iota that he was convicted. 

[myata]

It's not about some paper rules. Rules can be written, rewritten and ignored or circumvented. It's about the country. The country that could elect leaders like Trump will not be the same as the country of Lincoln, Roosevelt and King. That could be the change, monumental and pivotal.

[impartialobserver]

1 hour ago, myata said:

It's not about some paper rules. Rules can be written, rewritten and ignored or circumvented. It's about the country. The country that could elect leaders like Trump will not be the same as the country of Lincoln, Roosevelt and King. That could be the change, monumental and pivotal.

Hmm.. so the law is meaningless. Interesting perspective. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

I would say the entire lawfare thing started to roll from the moment that Trump entered politics, most certainly when he won the nomination.

How many other politicians, past and present, have been subjected to as many investigations as Donald Trump?

How many other politicians? None that I can recall. Most become unelectable after they are caught in compromising situations. Even Nixon had the grace to retire. For some reason (his politics of spite) when Trump gets caught it only make him more beloved to his devoted followers.

The weird thing is that you blame the investigators, the prosecutors, the judges and the juries--everyone except the guy committing the crimes. Like, there's no question that he actually did most of what he's been accused of, but the crimes don't bother you. It bothers you that people try to hold him accountable.

Isn't there some piece of you that finds that weird?

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

I would say the entire lawfare thing started to roll from the moment that Trump entered politics, most certainly when he won the nomination.

How many other politicians, past and present, have been subjected to as many investigations as Donald Trump?

No one else has colluded with Russians more than Trump. Manafort WORKED FOR Putin's puppet in Ukraine and was working for a Russian oligarch while managing Trump's campaign.

You can't just ignore the CAUSE of the investigations into Trumpco.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

I will admit that I am surprised at the outcome. Not sure what I actually expected but not this. As to how impactful this will be.. probably not nearly as impactful as some would like. He can still be elected even if with these convictions. 

Only because the MAGA CULT, plus business interests ONLY types are hypocrites who don't mind fraud in managing businesses.