Autocrats in China, Russia are now making common cause with MAGA Republicans to discredit liberalism and freedom around the world.

[CdnFox]

On 5/11/2024 at 12:24 PM, robosmith said:

The New Propaganda War

 

Of course right wingers here applaud foreign interference helping Trump. AKA TRAITORS.

Just like the Russian (stolen email leaks) help that Trump exploited at  HIS RALLIES in 2016. 🤮
 

No, the burning question is if re-elected will he die in his first year?  or did he die last year and is currently the product of late generation animatronics?  

[Nationalist]

On 5/7/2024 at 12:28 PM, WestCanMan said:

Robo is officially the voice of leftists here now. @BeaverFever, @eyeball, @ExFlyer, @Hodad, @Rebound etc all look up to him for leadership and wisdom. 

Look up? Man...they must be really short.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Look up? Man...they must be really short.

Intellectually, they're dust mites. 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Look up? Man...they must be really short.

I can guarantee that the ONLY way you'd look at me is UP like most of the players on the basketball court, since I am 6' 6"

And the only way you're looked at here is with pity when you post your bankrupt responses.

[Michael Hardner]

Are people pointing out that China bussed students to a Liberal nomination meeting to get their guy elected as an MP in parliament ?  Hope so.

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I can guarantee that the ONLY way you'd look at me is UP like most of the players on the basketball court, since I am 6' 6"

And the only way you're looked at here is with pity when you post your bankrupt responses.

6'6 ???  Wow - you grew 3 inches since the last time you bragged about your height!   Impressive  

[ironstone]

What is Biden doing to defend and promote liberalism in his own country? We all know how government resources have been weaponized against his most serious political opponent with nonsensical charges..

Speaking of China and Russia, we also know that Joe and his family have very lucrative financial ties to both countries, especially China. Those countries are not the only one's.

Biden is 99% opportunist and perhaps 1% liberal.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

I can guarantee that the ONLY way you'd look at me is UP like most of the players on the basketball court, since I am 6' 6"

And the only way you're looked at here is with pity when you post your bankrupt responses.

Ya...I'm afraid I don't believe a word you say.

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...I'm afraid I don't believe a word you say.

As always, your beliefs have NO BEARING on reality. It is hilareous that you pretend they do, esp when you have ZERO reason.

 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

As always, your beliefs have NO BEARING on reality. It is hilareous that you pretend they do, esp when you have ZERO reason.

 

Yes dear...

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

As always, your beliefs have NO BEARING on reality. It is hilareous that you pretend they do, esp when you have ZERO reason.

 

I have never...not once...seen anyone so arrogant as to think their height has anything to do with anything on a political forum. I mean seriously, who brags about height? That's so superficial.

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I have never...not once...seen anyone so arrogant as to think their height has anything to do with anything on a political forum. I mean seriously, who brags about height? That's so superficial.

Have you TALKED to him before? you're just concerned about his superficial and nonsensical attention span NOW?

[Videospirit]

On 5/13/2024 at 2:04 PM, ironstone said:

We all know how government resources have been weaponized against his most serious political opponent with nonsensical charges..

Uh... you do know that Trump is objectively the most criminal President the United States has ever had right? The man has scammed more people than almost anyone on the planet. It's just... public record all of the shit he's guilty of doing. It's a long list.

Why do you find it unthinkable that such a man could also be guilty of more serious crimes?

Edited May 15, 2024 by Videospirit

[August1991]

1 hour ago, Videospirit said:

Uh... you do know that Trump is objectively the most criminal President the United States has ever had right? The man has scammed more people than almost anyone on the planet. It's just... public record all of the shit he's guilty of doing. It's a long list.

Why do you find it unthinkable that such a man could also be guilty of more serious crimes?

Objectively?

Many Americans said exactly the same thing about George W, Bush. Nixon? Reagan?

I think some Americans vilified Nixon more than Trump.

===

Videospiriit,

Welcome to politics, American style.

[Rebound]

On 5/7/2024 at 7:37 AM, Nationalist said:

"AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

I would point out the censorship at the hands of Brandon's administration, or the lawfare brought to us by Brandon's administration...but you'd just deny deny deny. In the final analysis...

You're nothing more than a little girl screaming 'cause she can't have 2 pieces of cake.

Censorship? Has Biden censored anything you’ve written? Has he censored a single thing aired on Fox News?  
 

You don’t know what censorship is.  China and Russia have actual censorship.  They’ll throw you in jail for speaking out against the government. 

[Nationalist]

53 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Censorship? Has Biden censored anything you’ve written? Has he censored a single thing aired on Fox News?  
 

You don’t know what censorship is.  China and Russia have actual censorship.  They’ll throw you in jail for speaking out against the government. 

P1ss off you Libbie traitor!

I am sick and tired of your endless lies. The entire world knows about the Twitter files and all the censorship that went on...and continues. We are not talking about China or Russia but you keep deflecting there you traitorous little pee-on.

Brandon and his whole family are already destroyed. His kid is going to jail. He's regarded as an addled old fool.

Plus...it's now known that that "science" you ladies like to hide behind, has never said we have a climate "crisis". This war on fossil fuels is based on politicians warping the scientific reports.

So you can take your seething lies and hateful, destructive ideology...

And GFY. Your bullsh1t is over.!

Edited May 15, 2024 by Nationalist

[ironstone]

9 hours ago, Videospirit said:

Uh... you do know that Trump is objectively the most criminal President the United States has ever had right? The man has scammed more people than almost anyone on the planet. It's just... public record all of the shit he's guilty of doing. It's a long list.

Why do you find it unthinkable that such a man could also be guilty of more serious crimes?

Trump and his businesses have certainly been involved in a lot of lawsuits prior to entering politics, there is no denying that. Probably more than his fair share compared to his contemporaries.

I would compare the overall state of the union during his term to that of Biden. Covid was the giant wrench thrown into the system. Life was much more affordable for Americans, and the international scene was also much more peaceful. The southern border was in much better shape. If you're a typical Democrat supporter, you may not even be aware there is an issue at the border at all. You now have people on American streets chanting 'death to American, death to Israel!'. 

It's fair game to be critical of Trump, just as it's fair game to point out Biden's long list of failures. Or more accurately, the failures of his puppeteers.

 

[Videospirit]

9 hours ago, August1991 said:

Objectively?

Many Americans said exactly the same thing about George W, Bush. Nixon? Reagan?

I think some Americans vilified Nixon more than Trump.

Yes, subjectively some Americans may feel other Presidents are more criminal, but objectively Trump's list is so absurdly long and most Presidents aren't objectively criminal at all.

50 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Life was much more affordable for Americans, and the international scene was also much more peaceful. The southern border was in much better shape. If you're a typical Democrat supporter, you may not even be aware there is an issue at the border at all. You now have people on American streets chanting 'death to American, death to Israel!'. 

It's fair game to be critical of Trump, just as it's fair game to point out Biden's long list of failures. Or more accurately, the failures of his puppeteers.

What an American way of thinking about things. The world doesn't revolve around America. In fact, Trump actively worked to erode America's influence around the world during his presidency so America is even less important to the general trends of the globe than ever. Cost of living has gone up everywhere in the world, it's not something America is responsible for. 

As for a "less peaceful" world? Trump encouraged war between Israel and Palestine instead of diplomacy despite the looming deadlines of the Oslo accords approaching by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, Trump gave Putin endorsement to arrange forces for his invasion of Ukraine, Trump publicly toyed with the idea of nuking countries he didn't like. Is it any wonder the world is less peaceful now than it was before Trump's presidency? Trump has arguably done more to destabilize world peace than any American President in Living Memory, which is surprising since he hasn't even personally started any wars. In Comparison Biden hasn't started any wars and has tried to repair America's relations and influence.

I'll admit I don't take the border situation as seriously as right wingers. Xenophobia isn't really a respectable basis for governing policy, and the more people living in America the stronger the country becomes. Your country is popular, what can I say. People feel safer living in America under Biden than they did under Trump, huge success that, but it does mean your country is going to have more people trying to live in it which puts more stress on your borders. What have republicans in charge of the house proposed to fix the problem? What's your preferred solution? Turn America into a shithole that nobody wants to move to? 

As for people on the streets chanting "Death to America, Death to Israel" well, I suppose you can blame Biden for that. Biden's US has steadfastly opposed Palestinian membership in the United Nations, if it wasn't for the recent US veto Palestine would have a much stronger negotiating position to end Israel's occupation of their land and achieve Peace. But Biden at least has been critical of Israel, whereas Trump has openly encouraged Israel to exterminate every last Arab in Palestine. I can't imagine how the people in the streets situation would have been any better under any Republican President than under Biden, and you act like there weren't protests under Trump or something or as if an attempted coup was less serious than some college campuses being occupied. I mean I can imagine ways the situation could be worse, Military law and extra judicial executions or political imprisonment of protestors, or civil war perhaps, but maybe you see murdering protestors as an improvement and are upset that Biden isn't a psychopath. 

[robosmith]

On 5/13/2024 at 2:34 PM, gatomontes99 said:

I have never...not once...seen anyone so arrogant as to think their height has anything to do with anything on a political forum. I mean seriously, who brags about height? That's so superficial.

Two words: CONTEXT MATTERS. Too bad you completely missed it.

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, August1991 said:

Objectively?

Many Americans said exactly the same thing about George W, Bush. Nixon? Reagan?

I think some Americans vilified Nixon more than Trump.

===

Videospiriit,

Welcome to politics, American style.

Nixon was only "more vilified" because he was the first in a long time.

That was back when Republican voters believed in LAW & ORDER and Nixon CAMPAIGNED ON THAT.

When it was found he was a crook, REPUBLICANS told him he had to resign.

Now the MAGA Republican CULT just wants to WIN.

IOW, there is absolutely NO COMPARISON between the ethics of Trump and his predecessors. 

When Nixon claimed total immunity, everyone laughed. Now the SCOTUS is actually considering that because that's just how far right the SCOTUS has tilted.

[ironstone]

4 hours ago, Videospirit said:

I'll admit I don't take the border situation as seriously as right wingers. Xenophobia isn't really a respectable basis for governing policy, and the more people living in America the stronger the country becomes. Your country is popular, what can I say. People feel safer living in America under Biden than they did under Trump, huge success that, but it does mean your country is going to have more people trying to live in it which puts more stress on your borders. What have republicans in charge of the house proposed to fix the problem? What's your preferred solution? Turn America into a shithole that nobody wants to move to? 

A lot to digest there. You use the usual liberal talking points in order to defend an open border. 

Concerns about the amount of people entering the country? Don't know who is entering the country? Don't know how many 'gotaways' there are?  Xenophobia of course!

The more people living in America the stronger it becomes?  People living in China and India may beg to differ.

People feel safer living in America under Biden than they did under Trump?   Have you seriously not seen what is happening in big cities? In particular Democrat run cities?

What's so wrong with entering the country through legal channels?

Lot's of people were trying to enter the US even when Trump was president, but demonstrably lower numbers than under the Biden administration. This despite repeated claims from progressives that the US, and western society as a whole, are systemically racist. 

Mass immigration is overwhelming all of these countries, especially health care and housing. And yet, progressives keep demanding that we let in more and more people.

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Two words: CONTEXT MATTERS. Too bad you completely missed it.

What every you say shorty.

[Fluffypants]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

What every you say shorty.

What I do know is that Robo thinks its ok to expose your genitals to children.

[Videospirit]

35 minutes ago, ironstone said:

A lot to digest there. You use the usual liberal talking points in order to defend an open border. 

Concerns about the amount of people entering the country? Don't know who is entering the country? Don't know how many 'gotaways' there are?  Xenophobia of course!

Yes, pretty much exactly that. Being concerned about those things is fine, but calling a failure to do so a crises is Xenophobia.

44 minutes ago, ironstone said:

The more people living in America the stronger it becomes?  People living in China and India may beg to differ.

And what exactly are you trying to say about China or India? That the countries are weak and unable to take an influential role in the world or protect themselves because they... have too many people? The only reason China and India are major world powers today is because of their population.

39 minutes ago, ironstone said:

What's so wrong with entering the country through legal channels?

For the most part it doesn't work? Only a very small number of applicants are accepted every year compared to the number of individuals who wish to migrate to the US. Props to the people who succeed in legally migrating to the US, nothing wrong with that, but most immigrants have no choice but to choose alternative routes.

Not that I'm necessarily saying the US needs to have an open border, but it wouldn't be a big deal if it did, so having a defacto half open border because the US bureaucracy, both Republican and Democrat, can't figure out any way to process the sheer number of migrants isn't any kind of crises. 

58 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Mass immigration is overwhelming all of these countries, especially health care and housing. And yet, progressives keep demanding that we let in more and more people.

"all of these countries"?

As for Health Care and Housing, the US is the richest country in the world. They could solve both whenever they want. Housing is easy because you have more than enough labour and material to build housing to meet your needs but simply choose not to because sky high property values make more profit for less work. Healthcare might take more work to develop sustainably, but you could easily expand your healthcare capacity immensely to the point you can meet your growing needs over 20 years, and short term deficiencies could be solved by prioritizing legal immigrants and citizens. Undocumented Immigrants don't really expect to receive the full benefits of American citizens to begin with. These shortages are all artificial.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Fluffypants said:

What I do know is that Robo thinks its ok to expose your genitals to children.

Do you know that men routinely bring their small children (boys and girls) through the men's locker room on their way to the pool at my fitness center?

Maybe you're an extreme outlier in your puritanical concern about exposure.