Russian Army collapsing - the unsurprising failure of a police-state

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Have you seen the latest polls?

Guess who's winning...

2016 polls had Clinton winning.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

2016 polls had Clinton winning.

Sure...

[taxme]

On 10/1/2022 at 4:07 PM, sharkman said:

Thanks for proving my point.  The Russian army has been involved in multiple military actions and wars, and has specifically NOT collapsed, something that moon box should let sink in for a while.

And Russia is not a police state.  Certainly not as free as Canada, but if you want to point to a police state, North Korea comes to mind.  No, something else is causing the Russian army to come under strain.  

Russia is not going anywhere. They Corrupt Nazi dictator Zelensky is already planning on accepting defeat as the American government is getting tired of sending money and arms to corrupt Ukraine which most of those two mentioned has disappeared from view. Even the MSM has stopped covering the war in Ukraine. Israel is the number one top story of the day. ?

[sharkman]

42 minutes ago, taxme said:

Russia is not going anywhere. They Corrupt Nazi dictator Zelensky is already planning on accepting defeat as the American government is getting tired of sending money and arms to corrupt Ukraine which most of those two mentioned has disappeared from view. Even the MSM has stopped covering the war in Ukraine. Israel is the number one top story of the day. ?

Exactly.  Russia has won this war.  Ukraine was goaded into taking on Russia, and has had their country and population decimated.  They should have pursued peace back when Putin was offering it.  Zelensky should be arrested.

This thread title is 180 degrees off.

[sharkman]

Furthermore, the European Commission will be introducing its 12th package of sanctions against Russia this week.  Because the first 11 were so effective, LOL.  And of course because the Russian army has collapsed, what an 1diotic thread title.

Edit:  So let me ask you folks this.  How did the Media get it 180 degrees wrong?  How could they be so far off?  And they have misled the whole world into underestimating a powerful foe, Russia.  
What else is the Media wrong about?  Hamas.  Biden.  BRICS.  Trump.  The economy.

Edited November 14, 2023 by sharkman

[taxme]

On 11/13/2023 at 5:57 PM, sharkman said:

Exactly.  Russia has won this war.  Ukraine was goaded into taking on Russia, and has had their country and population decimated.  They should have pursued peace back when Putin was offering it.  Zelensky should be arrested.

This thread title is 180 degrees off.

Nazi corrupt Zelensky will one day soon be leaving Ukraine, and will be heading for his new home in Florida, to retire with the millions of American tax dollars that have been given to him by the American government. Zelensky will be living the good life in Florida, while the rest of his people will be living a not so great life. 

But then again, maybe the Ukranian people will end up living a better life after that Nazi corrupt thief is gone. The Nazi will never end up paying for his crimes against humanity because he served the WEF globalists elite ilk well. It pays well to be a part of the WEF globalist family. ?

[BeaverFever]

On 11/10/2023 at 10:30 AM, Nationalist said:

The population of Russia is about 150,000,000. The population of Ukraine is about 45,000,000. Do the math.

And yet after 2 years of war Russia is still losing.    Do the math. 

[BeaverFever]

On 10/19/2023 at 8:10 AM, Nationalist said:

Looks like Russia is going to level Kherson. The last few days have seen bombardments.

Meh...looks like the kid gloves are being taken off.

Another of your HILARIOUS false predictions of Russian victory fails to come true.  Seriously you were predicting an imminent Russian victory in this very thread OVER A YEAR AGO but all Russia has done since then is lose hundreds of thousands of lives without gaining an inch of ground. Don’t you feel the least bit embarrassed?  
 

Meanwhile back in reality Ukrainian forces have now finally crossed the Dnipro and captured new territory 

 

First, Ukrainian Marines Secured A Bridgehead Across The Dnipro River. Now, They’re Shuttling Armored Vehicles Across.

The Kherson Oblast bridgehead is a base for possible future advances by Ukrainian forces

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/11/07/first-ukrainian-marines-secured-a-bridgehead-across-the-dnipro-river-now-theyre-shuttling-armored-vehicles-across/?sh=3f77c6726f49

Edited November 16, 2023 by BeaverFever

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Another of your HILARIOUS false predictions of Russian victory fails to come true.  Seriously you were predicting an imminent Russian victory in this very thread OVER A YEAR AGO but all Russia has done since then is lose hundreds of thousands of lives without gaining an inch of ground. Don’t you feel the least bit embarrassed?  
 

Meanwhile back in reality Ukrainian forces have now finally crossed the Dnipro and captured new territory 

 

First, Ukrainian Marines Secured A Bridgehead Across The Dnipro River. Now, They’re Shuttling Armored Vehicles Across.

The Kherson Oblast bridgehead is a base for possible future advances by Ukrainian forces

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/11/07/first-ukrainian-marines-secured-a-bridgehead-across-the-dnipro-river-now-theyre-shuttling-armored-vehicles-across/?sh=3f77c6726f49

Meanwhile...the Ukrainian people are starting to protest Zelinsky's conscription. Poland is halting military aid to Ukraine and Polish truckers are blocking the border with Ukraine. 

Enjoy your bloodbath.

[Moonbox]

On 11/13/2023 at 8:57 PM, sharkman said:

Exactly.  Russia has won this war.  Ukraine was goaded into taking on Russia, and has had their country and population decimated.  They should have pursued peace back when Putin was offering it.  

Ukraine was goaded into taking on Ukraine...by getting invaded?  ?

When Putin was last offering peace, his troops were fleeing Kiev oblast after one of the most pathetic military operations of the last 40 years.  

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Ukraine was goaded into taking on Ukraine...by getting invaded?  ?

When Putin was last offering peace, his troops were fleeing Kiev oblast after one of the most pathetic military operations of the last 40 years.  

No sir, I could reveal the underlying causes, but they involve the last decade or so of moves behind the scenes.  Either way, I feel awful for the Ukrainians. 

[Moonbox]

I feel bad for the servile peasants conscripted into the Russian army, sent to uselessly die in storm assaults for nothing but Vladimir Putin's hubris and vanity.  

[BeaverFever]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Meanwhile...the Ukrainian people are starting to protest Zelinsky's conscription. Poland is halting military aid to Ukraine and Polish truckers are blocking the border with Ukraine. 

Enjoy your bloodbath.

LMAO your long track record of failed predictions of Russian victory and failed predictions of Zelenskyy resistance speaks for itself. 

[OftenWrong]

14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO your long track record of failed predictions of Russian victory and failed predictions of Zelenskyy resistance speaks for itself. 

Media silence, and the fact that you war roosters have stopped crowing tells us otherwise.

We're losing': Ukrainians reel from war chief's stalemate warning

 

Ukraine's Gen. Valery Zaluzhny surprised observers of the invasion this week with an unusually candid assessment that the warring parties had reached a deadlock along the sprawling front.

"Just like in the First World War, we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate," he told The Economist.

"There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough."

The comments poured cold water on the highly-touted counteroffensive that Ukraine launched this summer after stockpiling Western weapons and training new recruits.

But the push gained little ground and AFP journalists found last month that Ukraine was still battling Russian forces in one key village it had claimed to recapture weeks earlier.

The article goes on to say a new direction is needed, and they have one ready. More funding please...

[BeaverFever]

13 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Media silence, and the fact that you war roosters have stopped crowing tells us otherwise.

We're losing': Ukrainians reel from war chief's stalemate warning

 

Ukraine's Gen. Valery Zaluzhny surprised observers of the invasion this week with an unusually candid assessment that the warring parties had reached a deadlock along the sprawling front.

"Just like in the First World War, we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate," he told The Economist.

"There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough."

The comments poured cold water on the highly-touted counteroffensive that Ukraine launched this summer after stockpiling Western weapons and training new recruits.

But the push gained little ground and AFP journalists found last month that Ukraine was still battling Russian forces in one key village it had claimed to recapture weeks earlier.

The article goes on to say a new direction is needed, and they have one ready. More funding please...

New predictions of future stalemate don’t erase from history the nearly 2 years of failed predictions of victory 

[OftenWrong]

28 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

New predictions of future stalemate don’t erase from history the nearly 2 years of failed predictions of victory 

Unfortunately yes it does, for Ukraine.

It's like my pappy used to say,

All it takes for Ukraine to lose is, for Russia to keep blowing the hell out of them.

 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO your long track record of failed predictions of Russian victory and failed predictions of Zelenskyy resistance speaks for itself. 

- Shut down media and dictate stories to those outlets who will put up with it.

- Shut down churches.

- Shut down elections.

- Drag people off busses, the street and even classrooms to go die.

- Air raid sirens for fake attacks.

- Blow up gas pipelines. 

And all in the name of protecting...

Democracy. 

A real hero.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

- Shut down media and dictate stories to those outlets who will put up with it.

- Shut down churches.

- Shut down elections.

- Drag people off busses, the street and even classrooms to go die.

- Air raid sirens for fake attacks.

- Blow up gas pipelines. 

And all in the name of protecting...

Democracy. 

A real hero.

You are perfectly describing your hero Putin and his allies China, North Korea, Iran, Syria and Hamas 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Unfortunately yes it does, for Ukraine.

It's like my pappy used to say,

All it takes for Ukraine to lose is, for Russia to keep blowing the hell out of them.

 

Nope. First Russia is not “blowing the hell out of them”. Second Russia is the one who has to sustain a military force outside of its borders while Ukrainians are on their home soil. Russian resources are not infinite it is haemorrhaging money, equipment and lives to maintain this stalemate which is slowly eroding in Ukraine’s favour. 

[Nationalist]

55 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

You are perfectly describing your hero Putin and his allies China, North Korea, Iran, Syria and Hamas 

So Zelinsky is in the same club as Putin and his allies China, North Korea, Iran, Syria and Hamas ?

Well then...that's certainly reassuring...

[taxme]

On 11/16/2023 at 12:28 AM, BeaverFever said:

And yet after 2 years of war Russia is still losing.    Do the math. 

Where or how or who told you that Russia was losing the war with Ukraine? The American MSM liars, by chance. You obviously flunked your math class exam big time. Chuckle-chuckle. 

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Where or how or who told you that Russia was losing the war with Ukraine? The American MSM liars, by chance. You obviously flunked your math class exam big time. Chuckle-chuckle. 

If we had a dollar for every time you've invoked "MSM fake news" as the basis for your arguments and viewpoints, we'd all be able to afford new cars.  Sadly, the only thing it does is help you cope with reality.  

[taxme]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

If we had a dollar for every time you've invoked "MSM fake news" as the basis for your arguments and viewpoints, we'd all be able to afford new cars.  Sadly, the only thing it does is help you cope with reality.  

I have your check waiting for you. Probably even enough to buy yourself a new home. Come and get it. ?

You have no idea as to what reality really means. Your reality consists of listening and believing what the MSM tells you all the time is reality. Oops, I said those letters again. Boy, that pot is really building up. LOL.

[DUI_Offender]

On 11/11/2023 at 2:21 PM, eyeball said:

Too late for that. Hard-boiled right-wing Israelis have long succeeded at conflating anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel abroad and at home with the left wing in particular. The term's definition has had less and less to do with racism for decades now. 

You know the gigs up when Rabbis are cancelled for being anti-Semites. 

What rabbis have been "cancelled?" Try being Arab or Palestinian, and being critical of the Palestinian leadership. Better yet, try being a woman or gay person speaking up against them.  You will not last long.  

The fact that rabbis are even allowed to speak up against Israel, and not be persecuted or killed for it, is a sign of a healthy democracy within that community.  There have always been rabbis critical of Israel. 

Edited November 18, 2023 by DUI_Offender

[DUI_Offender]

12 hours ago, Moonbox said:

If we had a dollar for every time you've invoked "MSM fake news" as the basis for your arguments and viewpoints, we'd all be able to afford new cars.  Sadly, the only thing it does is help you cope with reality.  

I was not a fan of the MSM until people like Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson somehow gained a massive audience.  Now I realise how important it is to have media that reports on actual events, and does not try to manipulate the viewer with ridiculous populist appeal. Other than being paid off, I seriously cannot understand being on the side of the historical enemy of North America, especially when they invade a smaller nation, while committing war crimes.

People who are pro-Russia need to step back and analyse the situation.  Has Russia ever done anything positive to help the Western World?

Edited November 18, 2023 by DUI_Offender