SpankyMcFarland Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 I hope reports of an advance are true. Russian morale can’t be great these days. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-counteroffensive-gains-southeast-russia/32557460.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 6 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I hope reports of an advance are true. I wouldn't doubt it, but in doing so, will be opening themselves up to heavy losses, should they want to show progress by moving forward rapidly. If Russia could take out tens of thousands of their men and further deplete their military power, this ultimately only works in Russias favor. I just don't understand how the US didn't rush in providing aircraft to Ukraine, if they genuinely wanted them to win this war on the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) On 8/1/2023 at 10:54 AM, Nationalist said: What war? There was no war in Crimea. No "invasion" and no war. What there was, was a referendum that overwhelmingly said that the people of Crimea wanted to remain close to Russia. This didn't really surprise anyone because, they'd had similar referendums which produced the same results. The truth is, the vast majority of Crimeans, wanted to remain with Russia instead of Ukraine. That's how "Democracy" works. Aren't you in favour of "protecting Democracy"? Well Russia hasn't completely subjugated Ukraine. They've secured the eastern...ethnic Russian...provinces. They also have hundreds of thousands of military personnel there to defend that region. That part of Ukraine is now gone. The war was executed the way it was executed. Russian has control of most...if not all by now...of the eastern provinces. Were their tactics sound? Meh...probably not. On the other hand, the Ukrainians realized pretty quickly that Russia can reach into their western provinces at will. With Belarus just north of them, the Russians can attack in force, on short notice. As for Comic-Boy...I have a feeling his tenure is extremely limited and would venture to guess he'll be vacating Ukraine forever, once the dust settles. I understand he's bought his daughter a villa in northern Greece. Perhaps that would be a nice retirement home for him, his daughter and his fashion plate wife? OMG What a Kremlin/written spin job. You make it sound like Russia has shocked Ukraine amd the world with its power and is on the cusp of victory when really the opposite is true. The world has been shocked by Russias utter military failed as they were initially expected to win decisively within weeks of their Feb 2022 invasion. Now their eventual defeat is all bit inevitable, the best-case scenario they can hope for is a long war of attrition, paid for with more human waves of cannon fodder provided by convicts and conscripts, and a US Republican victory in 2024 that causes the US to switch sides. Remember, Russia’s original goal in 2022 was to conquer all of Ukraine and the Eastern territory is all they have left, which they’re barely holding onto after suffering a quarter million dead and literally pulling military vehicles out of museums to fight. It is Russia who has learned the hard lesson, which is that decades of corruption and cronyism have left their military so incompetent and incapable that supposedly “mighty Russia” can’t even win a war against a neighbouring country that is a fraction of their size They have no tactics except bombing civilians, bussing in more cannon fodder to try and hold the trenches just a little longer, and praying for Trump 2024 Edited August 29, 2023 by BeaverFever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 12 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: They’ve invaded them and people are getting a very nasty taste of what Russian rule means. They are Russians. They asked Russia for this. I think they knew what they were asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: OMG What a Kremlin/written spin job. You make it sound like Russia has shocked Ukraine amd the world with its power and is on the cusp of victory when really the opposite is true. The world has been shocked by Russias utter military failed as they were initially expected to win decisively within weeks of their Feb 2022 invasion. Now their eventual defeat is all bit inevitable, the best-case scenario they can hope for is a long war of attrition, paid for with more human waves of cannon fodder provided by convicts and conscripts, and a US Republican victory in 2024 that causes the US to switch sides. Remember, Russia’s original goal in 2022 was to conquer all of Ukraine and the Eastern territory is all they have left, which they’re barely holding onto after suffering a quarter million dead and literally pulling military vehicles out of museums to fight. It is Russia who has learned the hard lesson, which is that decades of corruption and cronyism have left their military so incompetent and incapable that supposedly “mighty Russia” can’t even win a war against a neighbouring country that is a fraction of their size They have no tactics except bombing civilians, bussing in more cannon fodder to try and hold the trenches just a little longer, and praying for Trump 2024 Lol...hi Beave. Thought you'd pop in for more bullshit spreading I see. How nice of you to bravely sacrifice the ukes for your temper tantrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: Lol...hi Beave. Thought you'd pop in for more bullshit spreading I see. How nice of you to bravely sacrifice the ukes for your temper tantrum. You have nothing but baseless insults as usual I see. And the only one “sacrificing Ukrainian people for their temper tantrum” is Putin. The more you try to blame this war on everyone but Russia when in reality it’s NOBODY but Russia the more you look like a fool. The Ukrainians are not being forced to resist the Russian invasion against their will and are not warmongers for choosing to exercise their legal right to resist foreign invasion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 22 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You have nothing but baseless insults as usual I see. And the only one “sacrificing Ukrainian people for their temper tantrum” is Putin. The more you try to blame this war on everyone but Russia when in reality it’s NOBODY but Russia the more you look like a fool. The Ukrainians are not being forced to resist the Russian invasion against their will and are not warmongers for choosing to exercise their legal right to resist foreign invasion. Start at 39:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Start at 39:00 Lol a link to a known conspiracy and fake news outlet run by a sleazy right wing couple that fled the US to dodge a deluge of lawsuits over their shady real estate Ponzi schemes. Well done. Why not just link directly to the Kremlin’s official Website? So if what you say is true - that a massive and unstoppable Russian offensive will suddenly materialize any day now - you’ll soon be proven correct. But how long do we have to wait before you admit you’re wrong and have been fooled again. How many months and years will we have to endure you saying “Any day now our glorious Russian liberators will destroy the infidels!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted August 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: But how long do we have to wait before you admit you’re wrong and have been fooled again. How many months and years will we have to endure you saying “Any day now our glorious Russian liberators will destroy the infidels!” He won't. The true superpower of every conspiracy clown is the magical ability to ignorantly plow through all of the contradictions you're faced with, and move on to the next angry delusion. Nobody is talking about Q anymore, but the same asshats who believed in it are still talking the same nonsense, just a different flavor of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Lol a link to a known conspiracy and fake news outlet run by a sleazy right wing couple that fled the US to dodge a deluge of lawsuits over their shady real estate Ponzi schemes. Well done. Why not just link directly to the Kremlin’s official Website? So if what you say is true - that a massive and unstoppable Russian offensive will suddenly materialize any day now - you’ll soon be proven correct. But how long do we have to wait before you admit you’re wrong and have been fooled again. How many months and years will we have to endure you saying “Any day now our glorious Russian liberators will destroy the infidels!” I was not aware of Morris's realestate dealing but here's what I found about it from wiki. Quote Morris hosts the Investing in Real Estate podcast and Morris Invest YouTube channel, and he developed the Financial Freedom Academy, an online financial planning service.[15] Morris and his wife Natali Morris co-authored a book, How to Pay Off Your Mortgage in 5 Years.[6][15] They also co-host a daily YouTube show on their Redacted channel.[16] In March 2019, investors filed more than two dozen lawsuits in Indiana and New Jersey, claiming that Morris was running a Ponzi scheme involving the sales of some houses in C- and D-class neighborhoods that were marketed through his investment company, Morris Invest, in Indianapolis. The investors claimed they were sold rental properties which Morris Invest promised to rehabilitate and rent out, earning them rental income. These properties belonged to Bert Whalen. Some investors claimed that they later discovered the properties they received rental income from for several months were boarded up and vacant, and they began receiving city code and country health department violations. Others found they had purchased vacant lots, small shacks or buildings that were falling down. Morris denied responsibility, asserting he referred investors to Whalen and that Whalen was responsible for managing the properties, even though many investors believed they were dealing directly with Morris.[17]In November 2019, Whalen was indicted by a federal grand jury for defrauding investors; the indictment did not name Morris.[18] Whalen pleaded guilty in March 2022.[19] Morris sued HoltonWiseTV in federal court in October 2019 for $7.2 million, alleging copyright infringement; the case stemmed from HoltonWiseTV's production of a three-hour documentary investigating the alleged involvement of Morris in various real estate scams. In March 2020, Morris lost the suit.[18][20] In May 2020, the state of Indiana filed a civil lawsuit against Clayton Morris, among others, for violating Indiana's deceptive sales and home loan acts in real estate deals involving more than 150 properties in Marion County.[21] Hmmm...I don't really believe Morris knew nothing about the work Whalen was doing. But he was not charged until this civil suit...which appears to have not gone anyway as far as I can tell. Is he suspect of shady dealings? Yes it appears so. Is he a criminal? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 2:12 PM, Nationalist said: I was not aware of Morris's realestate dealing but here's what I found about it from wiki. Hmmm...I don't really believe Morris knew nothing about the work Whalen was doing. But he was not charged until this civil suit...which appears to have not gone anyway as far as I can tell. Is he suspect of shady dealings? Yes it appears so. Is he a criminal? No. Criminal or civil, it still speaks to his character And anyways his whole claim is basically nothing but Russian propaganda. Let’s recap: Russia put out a public statement saying without any evidence that it’s about to overwhelmingly win the entire war, something that it’s said many times over the past year and a half of constant losing and having already taken a quarter million casualties. But instead of ignoring it as more empty-word propaganda from a country whose unbroken track record for lying and murdering its own citizens goes back centuries, this mor0n reports the latest absurd boast as some sort of new newsworthy “fact”. And you fell for it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Criminal or civil, it still speaks to his character And anyways his whole claim is basically nothing but Russian propaganda. Let’s recap: Russia put out a public statement saying without any evidence that it’s about to overwhelmingly win the entire war, something that it’s said many times over the past year and a half of constant losing and having already taken a quarter million casualties. But instead of ignoring it as more empty-word propaganda from a country whose unbroken track record for lying and murdering its own citizens goes back centuries, this mor0n reports the latest absurd boast as some sort of new newsworthy “fact”. And you fell for it too. How many Ukrainians have died for your pleasure? 100,000? 200,000? Without NATO boots on the ground, Ukraine is about to run out of men to fight, What would you suggest? An all out war between the USA and Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: How many Ukrainians have died for your pleasure? 100,000? 200,000? Without NATO boots on the ground, Ukraine is about to run out of men to fight, What would you suggest? An all out war between the USA and Russia? Ukraine is fighting in its own country in self defence. You seem to believe self-defence is immoral. So far there are no signs that Ukraine is running out of troops as you say given that Ukraine has fully mobilized its population back at the start of the invasion whereas politically and economically Putin can’t afford to fully mobilize the Russian population. Since Russia invaded the Ukrainian military grown to several times its pre-invasion size while the Russian military has only shrunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Ukraine is fighting in its own country in self defence. You seem to believe self-defence is immoral. So far there are no signs that Ukraine is running out of troops as you say given that Ukraine has fully mobilized its population back at the start of the invasion whereas politically and economically Putin can’t afford to fully mobilize the Russian population. Since Russia invaded the Ukrainian military grown to several times its pre-invasion size while the Russian military has only shrunk Blah blah blah... You're a blood thirsty POS playing with other peoples' lives. What twits like you need a Gawd Damn Spanking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Blah blah blah... You're a blood thirsty POS playing with other peoples' lives. What twits like you need a Gawd Damn Spanking! Wrong again. Putin is the blood thirsty POS playing with other peoples’ lives and he is already getting a Gawd Damn spanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) Of course...you pretend that from 2014 to 2020 didn't even happen. You're just as dumb as a doorknob aren't ya. Putin may be the biggest a55hole on the planet. But he's not as destructive as you Libbies and blood thirsty warmongers. Whatcha gonna do when Biden drags NATO into a full fledged war with Russia? Gonna be happy then? Gonna send your kids off to die? Your stupidity is monumental. Edited September 5, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Of course...you pretend that from 2014 to 2020 didn't even happen. You're just as dumb as a doorknob aren't ya. Putin may be the biggest a55hole on the planet. But he's not as destructive as you Libbies and blood thirsty warmongers. Whatcha gonna do when Biden drags NATO into a full fledged war with Russia? Gonna be happy then? Gonna send your kids off to die? Your stupidity is monumental. LMAO you are so devoid of knowledge it’s astounding You have absolutely no idea what happened 2014-2020 and you’ve already shown that you think Kremlin press releases are credible news sources. 2014 to 2020 was when Putin invaded Crimea with the Russian regular army and invaded the Donbas with Wagner mercenaries, de-badged Russian regulars, and a Moscow-armed and controlled insurgent army that shot down a fukin Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 with almost 300 civilians on board. Get a clue you freakin genius. Putin is clearly the only aggressor, how much ofa gullible brainwashed 1mbecile do you jave to be to think otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO you are so devoid of knowledge it’s astounding You have absolutely no idea what happened 2014-2020 and you’ve already shown that you think Kremlin press releases are credible news sources. 2014 to 2020 was when Putin invaded Crimea with the Russian regular army and invaded the Donbas with Wagner mercenaries, de-badged Russian regulars, and a Moscow-armed and controlled insurgent army that shot down a fukin Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 with almost 300 civilians on board. Get a clue you freakin genius. Putin is clearly the only aggressor, how much ofa gullible brainwashed 1mbecile do you jave to be to think otherwise https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/lethal-weapons-to-ukraine-a-primer/ Trumps biggest error. And still...ur a m0ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/lethal-weapons-to-ukraine-a-primer/ Trumps biggest error. And still...ur a m0ron. Sorry Putin Puppet that label only applies to you. Don’t worry your fellow puppet Trump tried to sabotage that deal but MAGAland was still in the denial stage about Russian sympathies back then so it only went through with the help of actual loyal citizens like Vindman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Sorry Putin Puppet that label only applies to you. Don’t worry your fellow puppet Trump tried to sabotage that deal but MAGAland was still in the denial stage about Russian sympathies back then so it only went through with the help of actual loyal citizens like Vindman. Vindman? LOL...that fat, sad excuse for a military man? Oh please...you're making me laugh way too hard. Vindman...hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Vindman? LOL...that fat, sad excuse for a military man? Oh please...you're making me laugh way too hard. Vindman...hilarious. 1)Trump is fatter 2)LCol Vindman is quite an accomplished and experienced senior officer, decorated combat veteran, Ranger-qualified soldier who served in in joint chiefs of staff and national security council They don’t come more qualified than him . I get it he told some truths that are inconvenient to your extremist political ideology so you do the typical baseless deny and attack and smear campaign but it’s just more of your bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 You're giving Nationalist too much credit to say he has a political ideology. He's not coherent enough for that. He's just a dimwitted monkey repeating what Tucker Carlson says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: 1)Trump is fatter 2)LCol Vindman is quite an accomplished and experienced senior officer, decorated combat veteran, Ranger-qualified soldier who served in in joint chiefs of staff and national security council They don’t come more qualified than him . I get it he told some truths that are inconvenient to your extremist political ideology so you do the typical baseless deny and attack and smear campaign but it’s just more of your bullshit Fat-man Vindman is a stooge and a joke.! He brought second hand info and embellished it. https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/29/turns-out-alexander-vindman-is-the-dopey-hack-we-all-thought-he-was/ You're a joke too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Fat-man Vindman is a stooge and a joke.! He brought second hand info and embellished it. https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/29/turns-out-alexander-vindman-is-the-dopey-hack-we-all-thought-he-was/ You're a joke too. More fake news propaganda from a fake news propaganda site. You’re the worst kind of sucker, and the only stooge here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 10:28 AM, BeaverFever said: More fake news propaganda from a fake news propaganda site. You’re the worst kind of sucker, and the only stooge here. It's not fake news if it says things that he LIKES. It's only fake news if it says stuff that is true he DOESN'T LIKE. ? Dumb dumb dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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