Trucker's Convoy

[myata]

8 minutes ago, ironstone said:

has the Conservatives at 39% and the Liberals at 31%

It doesn't matter much it's the same outdated and entrenched system that is driving the country into the third world. The democracy in the country is suffocating. Trudeau has shown very clearly that it's not a match for the problems and challenges of this century. If the country will not find a way to update and renew it, the writing is on the wall.

[Jack9000]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The majority of Canadians oppose the Trudeau government but the party that got the most seats has the government, even though more people voted Conservative. The NDP are propping up the Liberal government.  They refuse to acknowledge Trudeau’s complete mismanagement of our country.  They think propping up this government gives them power they wouldn’t have by joining the opposition.  That’s fine, but Canadians won’t forget the tyranny they’re supporting.  It will really backfire.  

its how FPTP  Works  just cause you get most votes doesn't mean you win government dude. you need to win th seats

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

Lol so who are you saying to elect then? 

liberal democracy has broken down

people will vote with their feet now

[myata]

1 minute ago, Jack9000 said:

its how FPTP  Works 

Now Trudeau likes the system forget what he said some years back. And march in the opposite direction. All together, now!

[Jack9000]

Just now, myata said:

Now Trudeau likes the system forget what he said some years back. And march in the opposite direction. All together, now!

the conservatives liked it under harper also when the NDP and libs split the vote enough for a 4 year majority in 2011.. it benefits both sides back and forth and will benefit the cons eventually again also.

[Yzermandius19]

22 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

It didn't sound like an anti-west blog cut-and-paste to you? I wonder why.

doesn't get more pro-west than Dougie93

if you think otherwise, it's probably because you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer

[BubberMiley]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

doesn't get more pro-west than Dougie93

if you think otherwise, it's probably because you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer

Then he shouldn't advocate overthrowing parliamentary democracy, obviously. Nothing pro-west about that.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Then he shouldn't advocate overthrowing parliamentary democracy, obviously. Nothing pro-west about that.

he didn't do that

you advocate for Chicom overlords running Canada on the other hand

now that isn't very pro-west

throwing stones from a glass house is a bad look

you project your anti-west bias on others

iron law of woke projection

Edited February 21, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[ironstone]

But my point is what do the majority of Canadians think about using the powers of the Emergency Act against the truckers?

We are being bombarded with totally different narratives.

Canadians increasingly support Truckers, Freedom. Trudeau declares National Emergencies Act! | The Wentworth Report

Two-thirds of Canadians support use of Emergencies Act against protesters: Poll - OrissaPOST

The comparisons have been made between use of the War Measures Act by Trudeau senior and now the Emergency Act by junior. During the FLQ crisis there were bombs, kidnappings and actual murder. By comparison the trucker protest has been very peaceful although as I've said before they should not have shut down any roads or disrupted the downtown with the horns. This protest was clearly better described as civil disobedience and not terrorism as was the case with the FLQ. The truckers went too far with disruptions but the Trudeau reaction also went too far. It's the analogy of a bazooka to kill a mosquito. Just clear the blockages but there should be no heavy handed action like confiscation of property and bank assets. Doxxing people that have contributed to the truckers in good faith? The leftist media is doing that.

Media targeting donors to Canada's protest leads to questions over free speech (nypost.com)

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, BubberMiley said:

Then he shouldn't advocate overthrowing parliamentary democracy, obviously. Nothing pro-west about that.

Who is, in fact, overthrowing Parliamentary democracy?   My only fear of the overthrow of our constitutional monarchy stems from current Liberal government policy and approaches.  

[myata]

10 minutes ago, Jack9000 said:

it benefits both sides back and forth and will benefit the cons eventually again also.

Yes it benefits the entrenched political players but not the society, very clearly. It doesn't reflect nor understands, neither wants and has any interest in understanding its problems. It's very good where it is thank-you. And there's no simple ways to update it. We are in a serious trouble. I predict not much positive will happen in the country in the social dimension in the next two decades. If the reality proves me mistaken I'll readily admit it. Just don't see where it could come from.

Edited February 21, 2022 by myata

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, myata said:

Yes it benefits political players but not the society, very clearly. And there's no simple ways to update it. We are in a serious trouble. I predict not much positive will happen in the country in the social dimension in the next two decades. If the reality proves me mistaken I'll readily admit it. Just don't see where it could come from.

A Conservative government would be much better for the country right now.  I used to be a Liberal.  I’m looking at facts on the ground right now.  

[myata]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

A Conservative government would be much better for the country right now.

But nothing would change. How would it prevent PM of a different color from doing exact same thing. I'm not that optimistic. This is not going anywhere.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, ironstone said:

But my point is what do the majority of Canadians think about using the powers of the Emergency Act against the truckers?

I live in a Liberal Party of Canada stronghold here

I have gone door to door to talk to my neighbors

they all say they same thing

they all agree with me

but they are afraid

they don't want to lose their jobs, homes, kids, etc

[myata]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

they all agree with me

but they are afraid

they don't want to lose their jobs, homes, kids, etc

1934

[Dougie93]

Just now, myata said:

1934

even my friend from Poland

who is a devout Roman Catholic

he says he has gone through all this before

he doesn't have the strength to do it again

 

[myata]

Who would have imagined in 1934 the following decade?

Who could think of emergency powers and police state in 2020?

When there's no check and controls all bets are off.

[Jack9000]

wow there's atleast one honest  Conservative mp in the house who said even though he doesn't believe in the emergency act being used right now but it's in trudeaus power to use it and doesn't make him a dictator like people are trying to push. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, myata said:

Who would have imagined in 1934 the following decade?

Who could think of emergency powers and police state in 2020?

When there's no check and controls all bets are off.

well I predicted something like this, right here on the forum

but this is even worse than I thought

[myata]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

he doesn't have the strength to do it again

I like to be proven wrong, would totally accept it if I see it but from what I can see now it's going to be a quite sad, dim and dull country in the next decades. And then, all bets are off.

[OftenWrong]

I understand they've started arresting people outside of the protected compound now. Anyone whom they can identify was associated with the protest in some way. Not sure how they know that, but it doesn't look good. Doesn't look good at all.

Getting ready to see face-masked goons without name tags or other identification marks, Just "Security"....

Move along, move along.

 

[myata]

1 minute ago, Jack9000 said:

it's in trudeaus power to use it and doesn't make him a dictator

Wait if a dictator decides to use any of their unlimited powers it would make them not a dictator? Suddenly (if MP to be believed) we have a world with no dictators in it!

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, myata said:

I like to be proven wrong, would totally accept it if I see it but from what I can see now it's going to be a quite sad, dim and dull country in the next decades. And then, all bets are off.

this is the net effect of moral hazard

Canada is in hock to the Chinese Communists in Beijing

they are propping the Canadian ruling class up

so the Chinese are running Canada from Beijing, by literal default

[ironstone]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I live in a Liberal Party of Canada stronghold here

I have gone door to door to talk to my neighbors

they all say they same thing

they all agree with me

but they are afraid

they don't want to lose their jobs, homes, kids, etc

I'm in a Liberal stronghold too. I do think people should be open to checking out more sources for their news. They might be surprised by what they find. My friends seem to be in the dark about what's going on in the world of politics and I think the reason for that is they only watch the local news channels, CTV seems to be the choice . None of my friends have ever written to their MP as far as I am aware. I'm guessing most Canadians are the same, just taking what the government of the day puts out for us. If all I watched was CBC, CTV or Global I wouldn't really learn anything. Tiktok and Dancing with the Stars is more important for most people these days.

[Jack9000]

Just now, myata said:

Wait if a dictator decides to use any of their unlimited powers it would make them not a dictator? Suddenly (if MP to be believed) we have a world with no dictators in it!

no he means THE ACT is in the rules of a government therefore it is not  a dictatorship silly...