Trucker's Convoy

[ExFlyer]

44 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

you start shit

others retaliate

then you blame them for starting it

Prove it.

Good luck.

Edited August 11, 2022 by ExFlyer

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Can't get over your obsession with using the word "poopy" LOL

It's the perfect word to describe your contribution to the dialogue here.

I can't get over your obsession with trying to be involved in threads without bringing any facts, insights or intelligent comments. 

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You make up or twist almost everything.

If I said anything inaccurate about the Fox article you would have called me out just like I did to you. But you can't, so you went to generic insults.

[ExFlyer]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's the perfect word to describe your contribution to the dialogue here.

I can't get over your obsession with trying to be involved in threads without bringing any facts, insights or intelligent comments. 

If I said anything inaccurate about the Fox article you would have called me out just like I did to you. But you can't, so you went to generic insults.

Keep on Keeping On

It is the dead horse thing again Dude   Move on.

Edited August 12, 2022 by ExFlyer

[myata]

Dunno to laugh or to cry hearing about the "inquiry". Yes with no powers to do anything, and how else here? Chitchat, as pompous as useless, in other words, with outrageous salary how else. Prevent abuses of virtually unlimited power by entrenched governments or chitchat about them belatedly? Is there a difference, really should there be why? Where will it get us, in this century? Could the mindless blissful ride last indefinitely?

[ExFlyer]

4 hours ago, myata said:

Dunno to laugh or to cry hearing about the "inquiry". Yes with no powers to do anything, and how else here? Chitchat, as pompous as useless, in other words, with outrageous salary how else. Prevent abuses of virtually unlimited power by entrenched governments or chitchat about them belatedly? Is there a difference, really should there be why? Where will it get us, in this century? Could the mindless blissful ride last indefinitely?

WTF??? LOL

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, myata said:

Dunno to laugh or to cry hearing about the "inquiry".

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Prevent abuses of virtually unlimited power by entrenched governments or chitchat about them belatedly? Is there a difference, really should there be why? Where will it get us, in this century?

If enough Canadians were talking about it then the topic would be too large to ignore. It didn't get much traction though.

Aside from Bill Maher I don't think that there was a diehard leftist in either country that acknowledged Trudeau's hatemongering or any of the fascist actions of our his gov't.

Most leftists do everything they can to ignore/deny/denounce this topic. I guess you could say that basically anyone who blindly follows covid fear porn and vax propaganda saw the fascist actions of our gov't as heroic. 

 

[Goddess]

The following correspondence between the Trucker convoy and Mayor Watson shows the level of cooperation that was happening between the convoy and authorities.

The agreement was reached and made public February 13 to deescalate pressure on Ottawa residents. Trucks were moving pursuant to the agreement with Mayor Watson.

Less then 24 hours later Trudeau enacted the Emergencies Act.

@Michael Hardner  Note that King is not listed as a captain of the convoy or any other correspondence.

 

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

The following correspondence between the Trucker convoy and Mayor Watson shows the level of cooperation that was happening between the convoy and authorities.

The agreement was reached and made public February 13 to deescalate pressure on Ottawa residents. Trucks were moving pursuant to the agreement with Mayor Watson.

 

 

 

 

Yeah but....they did not comply with the mayors requests and hence, faced the wrath of authority.

While Lich's response was also a letter of intent, it was as much political pandering as the Mayors letter.

In the end, nothing happened from the protesters side. Very few, if any, vehicles moved, certainly not to the limits the Mayor asked for.

Only when the EMA was enacted and police presence increased and the protesters understood they were serious and what was going to happen did they move, and many at that time did.

In Ottawa, both tv networks were walking around filming live as the events unfolded. The abuse that the reporters and cameramen were taking was an embarrassment for the protesters.  Live filming as opposed to random facebook snippets.

But hey, this is all old stale news and mostly forgotten except for the few that cannot get past their excitement of the 15 minutes of fame (and their groupies).

"On the night before Justin Trudeau took the historic step of invoking the Emergencies Act during last February's Freedom Convoy occupation of Ottawa, the prime minister's national security and intelligence adviser told cabinet there was "potential for a breakthrough," court documents reveal."

"...referring to negotiations led "principally" by the City of Ottawa that were "ultimately unsuccessful" after being "disavowed" by many associated with the convoy."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/cabinet-told-of-possible-breakthrough-with-protesters-night-before-emergencies-act-was-invoked/ar-AA10zHwE?ocid=EMMX&cvid=c14be5b3a85c4bd198fa1ea8c400faa9

Gotta bring this up again because you are being forgotten? LOL

Edited August 13, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Zeitgeist]

Why do you defend and justify clear totalitarian government behaviour?  The protest was being de-escalated without the EA.  The Act was a proud assertion of power that trounced constitutional rights.   It was part of a continuing pattern of arbitrary draconian behaviour from the government. We watched closely.  The overreach continues with the maintenance of ArriveCAN, a slap in the face to Canadian border town businesses.  The Americans know our government is up to no good.  The signs are everywhere in Buffalo: “Entering Canada Requires ArriveCan.”   Don’t own a cell phone?  Too elderly or unable to operate technology?, Don’t try to enter Canada.   That includes Canadians.

Our government is ridiculous.  It oppresses people unnecessarily through over the top mandates and made protesting them illegal, including the freezing of bank accounts, doxxing of people, Trudeau’s public humiliation of protesters as “racist”, “misogynist” with “unacceptable views”.

Trudeau asked the Hitlerian question, “Do we make a space for these people?”   We saw the beatings behind the scenes and the intimidation of businesses that tried to stay open by police who were ordered to shut them down and remove people.  Ottawa looked like Warsaw after a crackdown against lhe protesters of communist dictatorship.

We saw what happened and the continued attempts to whitewash government actions.  

Edited August 13, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[ExFlyer]

19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Why do you defend and justify clear totalitarian government behaviour?  The protest was being de-escalated without the EA.  ....s.  The Americans know our government is up to no good.  ......

Our government is ridiculous.  I....”.

Trudeau asked the Hitlerian question, “Do we make a space for these people?”   ....

We saw what happened and the continued attempts to whitewash government actions.  

I do not defend.

I dispel the falsehoods, innuendo and partisanship perpetuated by some folks here.

The mayor attempted to de-escalate but, as the article I linked and as I witnessed, that did not happen, regardless of the letter from Lich.

A person posted letters and I dispelled the assumptions they made as I was here, in Ottawa, when this all occurred..

Our government is ridiculous, according to you and a few other dissidents here on this forum but, believe it or not, you are not the majority in Canada. Every government in every country in the world has dissenters and people that disagree with the ruling party. That is democracy. The way to change it is to vote them out by the majority of the population. 3 times Trudeau has won, like it or not. (personally I believe he won because of the failure of Scheer and O'Foole and who knows who is next)

Comparing any government to Hitler is a last resort of losers. Cannot provide evidence of actual law breaking and wrong doing so therefor resorting calling out for  Hitler (as oppose to Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi r even Mussolini).

I also linked an article written today. Like it or not, they do not see it your (and a few others here) way.

[Zeitgeist]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I do not defend.

I dispel the falsehoods, innuendo and partisanship perpetuated by some folks here.

The mayor attempted to de-escalate but, as the article I linked and as I witnessed, that did not happen, regardless of the letter from Lich.

A person posted letters and I dispelled the assumptions they made as I was here, in Ottawa, when this all occurred..

Our government is ridiculous, according to you and a few other dissidents here on this forum but, believe it or not, you are not the majority in Canada. Every government in every country in the world has dissenters and people that disagree with the ruling party. That is democracy. The way to change it is to vote them out by the majority of the population. 3 times Trudeau has won, like it or not. (personally I believe he won because of the failure of Scheer and O'Foole and who knows who is next)

Comparing any government to Hitler is a last resort of losers. Cannot provide evidence of actual law breaking and wrong doing so therefor resorting calling out for  Hitler (as oppose to Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi r even Mussolini).

I also linked an article written today. Like it or not, they do not see it your (and a few others here) way.

Democrat Bill Maher said he sounded like Hitler.  Musk posted a meme of Hitler’s picture with the caption, “Don’t compare me to Trudeau.  I didn’t use the banks.”

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Democrat Bill Maher said he sounded like Hitler.  Musk posted a meme of Hitler’s picture with the caption, “Don’t compare me to Trudeau.  I didn’t use the banks.”

Who is Bill Mahar? An American tv comedian?  Making comments for laughs? Who is Musk? What American pundits think of Canadian politics (or politics anywhere else in the world) is not only immaterial, it has no validity and is worthless. Quoting them is, once again. reaching far out.

Point here is that so many here are living and believing innuendo, rumours, hearsay, feelings, emotion and when pressed for actual facts, chapter and verse, all  the responses come back crickets.

I think Trudeau is an ass. I think he believes he has power when in fact it is the NDP that give it to him (this time). First tome the conservatives gave it to him, second time the conservative failures gave him the PMship too and same with this time but, NDP hold the cards.

I think conservatives are losers because they keep electing fools and idiots as leaders. Regardless what many may think, personality plays a big part in being a leader and hate to say this but, Trudeau and his personality win over the past 3 conservative leaders.

Edited August 13, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Zeitgeist]

15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Who is Bill Mahar? An American tv comedian?  Making comments for laughs? Who is Musk? What American pundits think of Canadian politics (or politics anywhere else in the world) is not only immaterial, it has no validity and is worthless. Quoting them is, once again. reaching far out.

Point here is that so many here are living and believing innuendo, rumours, hearsay, feelings, emotion and when pressed for actual facts, chapter and verse, all  the responses come back crickets.

I think Trudeau is an ass. I think he believes he has power when in fact it is the NDP that give it to him (this time). First tome the conservatives gave it to him, second time the conservative failures gave him the PMship too and same with this time but, NDP hold the cards.

I think conservatives are losers because they keep electing fools and idiots as leaders. Regardless what many may think, personality plays a big part in being a leader and hate to say this but, Trudeau and his personality win over the past 3 conservative leaders.

Maher is a massive influencer.  Real Time can literally change public opinion and does because of the calibre of guests.  Even Trump recognizes that.  Musk is today’s Edison.  Formidable people.  

Edited August 13, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[DogOnPorch]

24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Democrat Bill Maher said he sounded like Hitler.  Musk posted a meme of Hitler’s picture with the caption, “Don’t compare me to Trudeau.  I didn’t use the banks.”

 

Many folks...not just American pundits as your esteemed opponent minimizes...think Trudeau sounded like Hitler with his "do we tolerate the unvaccinate taking up space" comments. Trudeau is perhaps the most hated man on the planet and he has some worthy competition out there.

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Many folks...not just American pundits as your esteemed opponent minimizes...think Trudeau sounded like Hitler with his "do we tolerate the unvaccinate taking up space" comments. Trudeau is perhaps the most hated man on the planet and he has some worthy competition out there.

My only question is whether he understands what he did and why he’s so poorly regarded now.  It’s sad but that’s the job he took.  

[ExFlyer]

10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Maher is a massive influencer.  Real Time can literally change public opinion and does because of the calibre of guests.  Even Trump recognizes that.  Musk is today’s Edison.  Formidable people.  

In the US,

If he has influence over you here in Canada that is really a sad comment of certain Canadians.

Of course Trump would pay attention to American comedians, they are speaking to the American public.

I still don't know who Musk is.

Edited August 13, 2022 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

My only question is whether he understands what he did and why he’s so poorly regarded now.  It’s sad but that’s the job he took.  

I am quite sure he knows what he did,. Thing is most Canadians think he did OK.

"Two days before the Emergencies Act was invoked last February to quell anti-government convoy protests, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau warned ministers that international partners were concerned Canada wasn’t able to control the situation."

https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/international-partners-had-concern-about-canadas-ability-to-handle-convoy-protests-5693349?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=AutoPilot

Edited August 13, 2022 by ExFlyer

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

My only question is whether he understands what he did and why he’s so poorly regarded now.  It’s sad but that’s the job he took.  

 

I'd suggest the man's well being and safety would be jeopardized if he walked alone into a church congregation. That hated.  

Edited August 13, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[ExFlyer]

7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I'd suggest the man's well being and safety would be jeopardized if he walked alone into a church congregation. That hated.  

The  far right do not like Trudeau, that is for sure.

 

"the attacks launched on him by two far-right members of the European Parliament (MEPs, of which the body has 705 representatives in total) that somehow managed to capture the headlines and steal the show. "

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/03/29/opinion/europe-worst-people-hate-justin-trudeau-why-story

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The  far right do not like Trudeau, that is for sure.

 

"the attacks launched on him by two far-right members of the European Parliament (MEPs, of which the body has 705 representatives in total) that somehow managed to capture the headlines and steal the show. "

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/03/29/opinion/europe-worst-people-hate-justin-trudeau-why-story

To you the far right is anybody not Stalin.

[ExFlyer]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

To you the far right is anybody not Stalin.

Why insult. I am quoting a news article??

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'd suggest the man's well being and safety would be jeopardized if he walked alone into a church congregation. That hated.  

 I can't speak for any church congregation of course

by I am called by Christ to love thine enemies

certainly Jesus would hurl these money changers from the Temple

but it was not their physical safety which was imperilled in the face of Him

but rather their immortal souls

Jesus after all was only armed with with a "scourge of small cords"

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Why insult. I am quoting a news article??

 

You seem worthy as you're going to declare anybody you disagree with as 'far right'. Am I far right? How about sharkman?

[DogOnPorch]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

 I can't speak for any church congregation of course

by I am called by Christ to love thine enemies

certainly Jesus would hurl these money changers from the Temple

but it was not their physical safety which was imperilled in the face of Him

but rather their immortal souls

Jesus after all was only armed with with a "scourge of small cords"

 

 

As a generally non-religious type, I can't help but notice that the Christians are being persecuted in Canada. I can't imagine they're enjoying having their pastors arrested and churches burned down. In my BC city, the churches had to have 24/7 security for months. The burning seems to died down for the moment. But the persecution still remains.

If it was ANY other faith, there'd be media outrage. But it's Christianity...so...the media supports the persecution.

Edited August 13, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[Dougie93]

26 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

As a generally non-religious type, I can't help but notice that the Christians are being persecuted in Canada.

at his trial, Jesus of Nazareth was offered the chance to recant his claim to the throne of Judea

Pontius Pilatus, as Governor,  hoped to stave off any further escalation in the Judean revolt

against the Imperator Tiberius, Pontifex Maximus, Whore of Babylon

yet of course, the Creator, tho in human form, could kneel to no man

so Christ was taken to Golgotha, executed for treason against the Princeps Civitatus upon Calvary Hill

 thus God Himself knew the pain of being human

so He could relate to His 14 billion year creation

faith & science are not in conflict

see in this graph, the collapse of the pagan slave empire in the wake of the Crucifixion

YHWH is math, not a name, an equation 

a solution, logical, rational, cogent

Edited August 13, 2022 by Dougie93