WestCanMan Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I know. Yet there is no rational explanation for the actions taken in relation to reported nature of the threat. Nothing makes sense. It is not health care these people are in the business of. The only thing that does make sense, is the conspiracy. Sure, we're not dealing with sanity/reality, but there are more realistic reasons for a 'conspiracy' imo: 1) big pharma bucks going to politicians, media moguls and Drs alike, 2) octogenarian media corporation owners who want to force-vax the peons to provide themselves with a wall of herd immunity, 3) genuine & idiotic paranoia about a man-made biological warfare agent, 4) secret knowledge about the long-term effects of a biological warfare agent, 5) a trial run for mRNA vaccines against a future biological warfare agent, etc. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
QuebecOverCanada Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Posted December 10, 2021 19 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Mr. Trudeau has made comments on several occasions intended to vilify or demonize the unvaccinated. "The folks out there shouting — the anti-vaxxers — they're wrong." Trudeau said during his election campaign stop in Sudbury. "They are putting at risk their own kids, and they're putting at risk our kids as well." His speech emphasizes ideas like "anger", "consequences". This is something that I wasn't aware of. He's even dumber and dangerous than I thought. Very divisive. Quote
cougar Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Goddess said: It's rare to see an article in MSM about a vaccine death or injury, but they are real, and not rare. This goes to informed consent, IMO. (And also according to the Nuremburg Code.) My gut tells me that when governments and Big Pharma are covering up and not acknowledging deaths and injuries, then there is no informed consent and it is an International human rights violation to force, coerce and manipulate an entire population to get jabbed with experimental vaccines. And as you saw me demonstrate on Page 14 here, you are not allowed to even post a benign comment in the CBC's comments section expressing your distrust in vaccinations and booster shots. It gets instantly removed. This happens because the basic right of expression is not protected by any Canadian law. You can file a discrimination complaint with the BC Human Rights Tribunal here, but nothing related to your right to search for the truth, and preventing others being misled by powerful broadcasting companies. Mind you, if you file a discrimination complaint in which you report discrimination based on vaccination status, it will likely not go anywhere to begin with, either. So none of our BASIC RIGHTS are protected in Canada. It is all BS on paper, that we can use to "show China" how bad they are while we do about the same. Did it to the first nations, did it to the slaves, did it to the poor, did it to wildlife and continue to do it shamelessly. Edited December 10, 2021 by cougar 1 Quote
cougar Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you already had covid and you aren't scared of it then why did you get the vax? I don't know or know of anyone who was sorely beset by covid but I know/know of a few people who have been seriously harmed by the vaccines. I know of people who have been harmed by the vaccines, particularly ones who already went through COVID and recovered. But who am I to know what exactly harmed those people. At this pointy everything is very grey. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, Goddess said: FDA Advisory Meeting, Sept 17, 2021 Watch from the 4.20 mark OMG that's bland. It's just intros until the 30 min mark, and the audio cuts out so much that it's painful to watch. What were the key points that you took away from that? I have to go on the road for a bit and I won't get a chance to watch much of that tonight. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
OftenWrong Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: OMG that's bland. It's just intros until the 30 min mark, and the audio cuts out so much that it's painful to watch. What were the key points that you took away from that? I have to go on the road for a bit and I won't get a chance to watch much of that tonight. I believe she meant 4 hours 20 minutes. Things get rather interesting there. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Goddess said: That's just normal. He's talking about all children in general. Why would I not care about other children, they all share the same future. Edited December 10, 2021 by Aristides Quote
WestCanMan Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, Aristides said: Why would I not care about other children, they all share the same future. If you 'care' then why don't you spend some time and think about whether the vaccine is really a realistic option for children? All you do is say things like "Everyone should vax. Even kids should vax. My granddaughter vaxed and she thinks that you're a wussy for not vaxing." Are you teaching your grandchild to just obey propaganda without question? Is that such a great idea? How can you have such a strong opinion without offering any rationale whatsoever for your hostile opinions? "I watched Global and they said to vaccinate, so vaccinate godammit, or die! We don't need anyone that's too dumb to just do what they're told!" Tell me Aristedes, did you even look at the Statista page that I linked for you? Do you understand that only 11 kids under 12 died of covid in the last two years? Do you understand that it's a light flu season in that regard? Do you understand that only 8 kids between 12 and 19 died of covid in the last two years? Are you aware that the harm that the pseudovax is doing to children? What are we accomplishing by vaccinating children, aside from harming them? Is it worth the risk of vaccinating healthy children when at-risk adults can get your beloved vaccine themselves? Do you have any intelligent answers or do you just want to keep on saying the same stupid things that you always do? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 @Aristides Here are a few vax adverse reactions for you to look at, including the story of Mattie de Garay, a 12 yr old who volunteered for the covid trials and was paralyzed, maybe permanently. https://www.fox6now.com/news/senator-johnson-families-speak-covid-vaccine-adverse-reactions Was the risk worth it in her case? WTF kind of people think that risking more reactions like hers is worth it? The vax was never going to protect her because she was too young and healthy to be a victim of covid. It would only protect people like you. Why should we risk another Mattie de Garay or Jacob Clynick just to keep you safe when you already have the vaccine? Speak up ffs Aristedes. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Goddess said: Indeed. FDA Advisory Meeting, Sept 17, 2021 Watch from the 4.20 mark I watched a bit of it from 4:20 on. I had to quit after the first speaker but I'll watch some more. Thanks for posting that. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Army Guy Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Goddess said: Indeed. FDA Advisory Meeting, Sept 17, 2021 Watch from the 4.20 mark I wonder what our country is going to do now, that the US have had their eyes opened...i hope they act soon alot of parents are running out and getting their kids vaccinated... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you 'care' then why don't you spend some time and think about whether the vaccine is really a realistic option for children? All you do is say things like "Everyone should vax. Even kids should vax. My granddaughter vaxed and she thinks that you're a wussy for not vaxing." Are you teaching your grandchild to just obey propaganda without question? Is that such a great idea? How can you have such a strong opinion without offering any rationale whatsoever for your hostile opinions? "I watched Global and they said to vaccinate, so vaccinate godammit, or die! We don't need anyone that's too dumb to just do what they're told!" Tell me Aristedes, did you even look at the Statista page that I linked for you? Do you understand that only 11 kids under 12 died of covid in the last two years? Do you understand that it's a light flu season in that regard? Do you understand that only 8 kids between 12 and 19 died of covid in the last two years? Are you aware that the harm that the pseudovax is doing to children? What are we accomplishing by vaccinating children, aside from harming them? Is it worth the risk of vaccinating healthy children when at-risk adults can get your beloved vaccine themselves? Do you have any intelligent answers or do you just want to keep on saying the same stupid things that you always do? I've never said everyone should vax. I've also never said anyone shouldn't vax. You can't say the same. I haven't said anything to my grand children about getting vaxxed. My wife and I decided a long time ago that we wouldn't interfere with how our kids brought up their children. I'm not talking to children here, although sometimes it feels like it. Edited December 11, 2021 by Aristides Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you already had covid and you aren't scared of it then why did you get the vax? I don't know or know of anyone who was sorely beset by covid but I know/know of a few people who have been seriously harmed by the vaccines. I just got it to keep my job held out until they forced my hand Edited December 11, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Aristides said: I've never said everyone should vax. then why do you support the vax mandates? Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, taxme said: I like to play the horses and go to the casinos now and then to try and win some money. But for some strange reason I always seem to end up coming out of the casino with no money left in my wallet. It seems like if it were not for me losing all of my money at the casino the casino employees would not have a job. Should I feel happy or sad about that? If you have any tips on how to make money gambling, I sure would like you to donate some of your gambling and making money expertise. I have a lot of lost gambling money to try and get back. ? the vast majority of those who gamble are long term losers I am a rare exception indeed tip number one don't try to win your money back chasing loses leads to bad bets lack of patience and discipline are a big reason why most people lose don't let swings in momentum change the way you bet tip number two stick to what you are good at for example I'm only a proven long term winner betting on MMA particularly live betting MMA when I try to bet other sports I either barely win, break even or lose long term so I stopped betting them and save that money for MMA bets instead ROI FTW tip number three don't bet for fun, bet to win bet with your head, not your heart take the emotion out of it as much as possible it's not personal, just business another big reason why most lose long term, they bet for the sake of betting they bet for fun or bet on who they want to win instead of looking for a poorly set line to exploit tip number four only bet if the line isn't set properly you're looking for value don't even bet on who you think is going to win be a shark circling waiting for the odds makers to give you value if there is no value, the best bet, is no bet for example if I think someone is likely to win 66% of time but the linesmaker sets the line at -250 betting on the likely winner loses you money in the long run, even if you win that bet in the short term or say there is a coin flip but they give you +200 even if you lose more coin flips than you win you're gonna to come out ahead it's all about value tip number five focus on the process, not the outcome focus on the long term, not the short term if you are placing good bets consistently, you will win more long term you can place bad bets that win and place good bets that lose I would rather place a good bet that loses, than a bad bet that wins because while that results in a short term loss in the long run things will work themselves out focus on what you can control I can't control the outcome but I can control the process process, process, process this attitude also makes it easier to handle losses mentally and avoid going on tilt tip number six scale the size of your bets relative to your bankroll the bigger the bankroll the larger the bet and vice versa for sports betting I never bet more than 20% of my bankroll, even on a lock and I usually don't bet more than 5% or 10% the vast majority of my bets never put all your eggs in one basket diversification ftw Edited December 11, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
cougar Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 New COVID article on CBC. Our poster Alice tested the waters and achieved the expected result. While we are paying those cretins they hire idiots to remove legitimate content , just so their propaganda goes ahead unimpeded. 4 Quote
myata Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Every single rationalization of coerced or mandatory vaccination I have seen so far, Germany, UK, USA this country refers to prevalence of severe cases in non vaccinated population. Without commenting on validity of these claims, sadly, after only two years we do not have an impartial trusted source and mechanism to provide this crucial information to the society accurately and honestly; this is unprecedented. There's no discussion what these vaccines do and do not; side effects comparative to benefits none. A gain for the system explains and justifies anything. Never before, to my knowledge, problems of the system were relegated, automatically without a trace of a serious discussion to the public in the form blanket and uniform mandate, and we need to add now, indefinitely because who is discussing an exit path and strategy? I cannot think of one such example, yet we are doing automatically without even invoking consciousness. System has problems -> there's an easy solution (for the system) -> we have to make it mandatory for the population. If unchecked same pattern can be applied to a host of issues and problems. It can become the default style of approaching any problems. Would we still call it "a democracy"? Edited December 11, 2021 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 9 hours ago, cougar said: While we are paying those cretins they hire idiots to remove legitimate content , just so their propaganda goes ahead unimpeded. WWII period began around 1938. By year five most Germans were sick and disillusioned of the incessant propaganda drumming. Based on history we have about three years to go. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
PIK Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 I hear people talk about health issues as a reason to not vax. I know a few. But how many people in old age homes that some probably have every health issue going are fine today after receiving the vax? How many people in this thread almost died from it? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Aristides Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, PIK said: I hear people talk about health issues as a reason to not vax. I know a few. But how many people in old age homes that some probably have every health issue going are fine today after receiving the vax? How many people in this thread almost died from it? Everyone I know has been vaccinated and none have had side effects that lasted longer than two days. 1 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, PIK said: I hear people talk about health issues as a reason to not vax. I know a few. But how many people in old age homes that some probably have every health issue going are fine today after receiving the vax? How many people in this thread almost died from it? I work in a retirement residence so I've anecdotally seen a pretty large sample size most were totally fine several had minor bad reactions one was hospitalized twice by it none of them died from it Quote
Infidel Dog Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, Aristides said: Everyone I know has been vaccinated and none have had side effects that lasted longer than two days. Well, you know me and my adverse reaction lasted 2 months. So, I guess you can't tell that story again. Sorry about that. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 I know a few people that have had covid. They all lived. Quote
myata Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 I know personally several people who had it. One was a severe case, in the hospital (in the 40s healthy but extra weight). Some only knew because of a test later. All recovered. This does not look like what we hear, and I prefer to trust my eyes. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
-TSS- Posted December 11, 2021 Report Posted December 11, 2021 Bars, concerts, foreign holidays etc. That is kind of understandable as they are not human rights by any standard but grocery stores? Get the jab or starve? Honestly? Quote
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