Is Canada becoming a Communist state?

[myata]

Another interesting angle of the paternalistic, good elites for the little people narrative of this country is the trash culture, wonder if someone has studied it? The amount of trash in public places in large cities like Toronto, Ottawa is disgusting and sometimes approaches the pattern seen in the third world. People trash mindlessly dropping cups, straws, wrappers in a street, beach, in a natural area and relying on the government to clean up after them. Recycling culture is all but non-existent.

What is it? Are we already degrading mentally and physically needing the government to brestfeed us and clean up after us? Is it going to work, and how, in this century and beyond?

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, myata said:

Another interesting angle of the paternalistic, good elites for the little people narrative of this country is the trash culture, wonder if someone has studied it? The amount of trash in public places in large cities like Toronto, Ottawa is disgusting and sometimes approaches the pattern seen in the third world. People trash mindlessly dropping cups, straws, wrappers in a street, beach, in a natural area and relying on the government to clean up after them. Recycling culture is all but non-existent.

What is it? Are we already degrading mentally and physically needing the government to brestfeed us and clean up after us? Is it going to work, and how, in this century and beyond?

that seems like more Ameircanization

I grew up in Toronto the Good, Glenn Gould's Toronto

it was fastidiously clean, Americans were stunned by how clean it was in Toronto

but when I go downtown now, it is more like Manhattan

[Dougie93]

the thing is, even at the time, Toronto aspired to be like Manhattan

being Toronto the Good, being fastidious, that was boring

Toronto actually seems happier now that it is just like New York City

[myata]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that seems like more Ameircanization

I grew up in Toronto the Good, Glenn Gould's Toronto

it was fastidiously clean, Americans were stunned by how clean it was in Toronto

but when I go downtown now, it is more like Manhattan

That's fine, but was it clean because it was people's culture and tradition back then (and it can change too) or due to government efforts what perhaps were more efficient in a smaller city with fewer people?

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, myata said:

That's fine, but was it clean because it was people's culture and tradition back then (and it can change too) or due to government efforts what perhaps were more efficient in a smaller city with fewer people?

it was the culture

it was the Victorian Canadian culture of 19th century Toronto

and Torontonians didn't like it anymore, I didn't even like it, I was like everybody else in Toronto then

we looked across the border to New York City and wanted to be like that

and so mission accomplished, Toronto got to where it wanted to be, filthy & free in the American big leagues

[Dougie93]

it's like Glenn Gould's Toronto the Good at its zenith in the 1970's

it was quaint

we had reached the point of outgrowing that

we didn't want to be quaint

we wanted to be in the big leagues, we wanted to be exciting

it's like the TIFF

that was a mickey mouse operation at first, embarrassingly so

you might get a couple American celebrities to show up in the early days, but it wasn't big news

the TIFF now is a global event, all the celebrities of the world show up and party in Toronto

that is what Toronto desperately wanted to be, Hollywood North

Edited May 30, 2021 by Dougie93

[myata]

20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it was the culture

it was the Victorian Canadian culture of 19th century Toronto

and Torontonians didn't like it anymore, I didn't even like it, I was like everybody else in Toronto then

we looked across the border to New York City and wanted to be like that

and so mission accomplished, Toronto got to where it wanted to be, filthy & free in the American big leagues

I read an article about Finnish youth feeling tired and disillusioned by teaching of strong and successful history of the country in the 20th century and that was a real and not a small thing, to defend independence from neighboring Russia and build one of the most prosperous countries in Europe pretty much from scratch. Even if the national theme and narrative is real and earned there's no assurances it would last in generations.

In Canada though it may have been like swapping one foreign, made by others tradition for another, Victorian for American, no big deal.

Edited May 30, 2021 by myata

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, myata said:

 

In Canada though it may have been like swapping one foreign, made by others tradition for another, Victorian for American, no big deal.

no big deal for me, I'm a dual citizen, so America is not mine enemy

America is Canada's enemy tho, so trying to keep the Americans out incites Canadians to do themselves harm

the Canadians are not like the Finns, the Canadians are like the Russians

the Canadians are like the Russians with America at the gates, Trudeau is Canadian Putin

[Dougie93]

it's like Canada cannot have nuclear weapons of its own within the American hegenomy

because who would Canada be pointing those at ?

not China, not Russia, Canada would only need nuclear weapons to deter the Americans

this is why the Americans prevented Canada from buying nuclear submarines to patrol the arctic

nuclear submarines are nuclear weapons, and Canada's only real enemy in the arctic, is America

the Ameircans knew those Canadian submarines would be tracking American submarines, so America put a stop to it

they just sent a letter to Ottawa and said we don't want you to do this, and Ottawa obeyed them

[Dougie93]

see, growing up with my American father as an American -Canadian was no big deal

because I didn't live in Canada

I lived in Toronto

Toronto was a nation unto itself

the rest of Canada might as well not have existed, it was just background noise

Toronto looked to America, Toronto wanted to be American

Toronto is just like me, or Aubrey Drake Graham

Canadian mother, American father

 

[Dougie93]

even the things which we were proud of as Torontonians were not actually Canadian things

we were cosmopolitan, international, multicultural, we were everything except Canadian

Toronto is the Post National State

the problem now is simply that Toronto has staged a coup de'tat in effect

subjugating the rest of Canada under Toronto's cosmopolitan jackboots

and its tearing the Confederation apart, because the Toronto rules just don't apply to the rest of Canada

[blackbird]

The Liberal government is pushing through a bill C10 which will seriously curtail freedom of speech or expression of Canadians online.  This is a step toward making Canada a Communist state.

[Dougie93]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

The Liberal government is pushing through a bill C10 which will seriously curtail freedom of speech or expression of Canadians online.  This is a step toward making Canada a Communist state.

the return of the Young Hegelians

most people don't realize that Marxism was cultural before it was economic

the original dialectic was to smash to the cultural contradictions of society

Marx, as just one of the Young Hegelians, applying the dialectic to economics only after the fact

in the Industrial Age this made sense, but not in the Information Age

in the Information Age,  Marxism has gone back to its cultural roots

the inherently weak Liberal Post National State simply can't take the pounding of the dialectic

thus the Liberal elites are becoming desperate to the point of resorting to totalitarian thought policing

Edited June 7, 2021 by Dougie93

[blackbird]

How Pastor Artur Pawlowski was treated when he was arrested in Calgary for his church defying a Covid order is beyond belief.  Watch this video where he describes his experience in custody.  He describes Canada as a hybrid Communist-Fascist state.

FlashPoint Clip: Pastor ARRESTED in Canada! Featuring Pastor Artur Pawlowski - Bing video

 

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

  He describes Canada as a hybrid Communist-Fascist state.

in Russia,  they are celled the National Bolshevik Party, the NazBols

National Socialist Stalinist's in effect

Fascist Communist hybrid

North Korean "Juche" would be another example

[dialamah]

13 hours ago, blackbird said:

How Pastor Artur Pawlowski was treated when he was arrested in Calgary for his church defying a Covid order is beyond belief.  Watch this video where he describes his experience in custody.  He describes Canada as a hybrid Communist-Fascist state.

FlashPoint Clip: Pastor ARRESTED in Canada! Featuring Pastor Artur Pawlowski - Bing video

 

Maybe he should have obeyed the law, then he wouldn't have to whine when he got arrested.  Not to mention, this idiot has no clue what it means to live in a "communist-fascist" state - he just thinks he's some special snowflake who shouldn't have to obey the law.  Canada is the best place in the world for people like him: he gets to break the law with absolutely minimal consequence.  Try to pull this kind of BS in a place like China, he'd come to understand what government oppression really is.  

[Yzermandius19]

41 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Maybe he should have obeyed the law, then he wouldn't have to whine when he got arrested.  Not to mention, this idiot has no clue what it means to live in a "communist-fascist" state - he just thinks he's some special snowflake who shouldn't have to obey the law.  Canada is the best place in the world for people like him: he gets to break the law with absolutely minimal consequence.  Try to pull this kind of BS in a place like China, he'd come to understand what government oppression really is.  

he was born in communist Poland and grew up there

he knows exactly what it is like to live in a communist state

and he is calling Canada out on being such a state

 

he was arrested for disobeying a law

restricting his religious freedoms on spurious grounds

just as might have happened to him in communist Poland

while you defend Canada for treating him in such a manner

on whataboutism grounds that China is more oppressive

so he should just suck it up

 

do not project

you're not having a clue

what is like to live in a communist state

on him

Edited June 9, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

Maybe he should have obeyed the law, then he wouldn't have to whine when he got arrested.  Not to mention, this idiot has no clue what it means to live in a "communist-fascist" state - he just thinks he's some special snowflake who shouldn't have to obey the law.  Canada is the best place in the world for people like him: he gets to break the law with absolutely minimal consequence.  Try to pull this kind of BS in a place like China, he'd come to understand what government oppression really is.  

Maybe you should watch the video and find out how he was treated in a jail that treated him like the Gestapo would.  You think it's fine to put someone in a cold filthy cell with urine on the floor and be forced to lay on it for 24 or 48 hours and where they refused to allow you to speak or call your lawyer.  You have no clue how barbaric this is.  You can't claim you are are defending health measures if you treat a prisoner like that.  We know the hate you have for Christians is the real reason you made that comment. 

[OftenWrong]

45 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Maybe you should watch the video and find out how he was treated in a jail that treated him like the Gestapo would.

Thanks for posting it.

[Michael Hardner]

46 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Maybe you should watch the video and find out how he was treated in a jail that treated him like the Gestapo would.  You think it's fine to put someone in a cold filthy cell with urine on the floor and be forced to lay on it for 24 or 48 hours and where they refused to allow you to speak or call your lawyer.  You have no clue how barbaric this is.  You can't claim you are are defending health measures if you treat a prisoner like that.  We know the hate you have for Christians is the real reason you made that comment. 

You mean treat him like other prisoners ?

What kind of Christian DEMANDS to be treated better than a common criminal ?

This is the state of Christianity today...

[Yzermandius19]

44 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You mean treat him like other prisoners ?

What kind of Christian DEMANDS to be treated better than a common criminal ?

This is the state of Christianity today...

pretty sure he's not asking to be the only one when treated better by Commie Canada

or asking that only Christians be treated better

but you will grasp at any straw, especially a strawman, to demonize Christians

while claiming others want Muslim families murdered for mere criticism

 

if I said what you said about a Muslim

you would accuse me of approving of the murder of Muslim families

your hypocritical double standard is obvious for all to see

when you criticize a Christian or Christianity, it's just reasonable criticism

when someone you disagree with criticizes a Muslim or Islam, they somehow support Muslim families being murdered

you clearly think it's perfectly acceptable to criticize Christianity but not Islam, and Christians but not Muslims

and this response has nothing to do with the validity of the criticism being levied at either group, and just whether the critic agrees with your demonization of those who disagree with you on the subject of religion

if they take issue with your demonizations of others, then they are hateful and evil

if they openly agree with your demonizations of others, only then is their criticism of Islam or Muslims approved of by you

Edited June 9, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[OftenWrong]

3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

just whether the critic agrees with your demonization of those who disagree with you on the subject of religion

if they take issue with your demonizations of others, then they are hateful and evil

if they openly agree with your demonizations of others, only then is their criticism of Islam or Muslims approved of by you

My question is, do his feet touch the ground when he walks?

[blackbird]

More evidence Canada is becoming a Marxist state.

Diane Francis: Trudeau's immigration scheme is just another way to redistribute Canada's wealth (msn.com)

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

More evidence Canada is becoming a Marxist state.

Diane Francis: Trudeau's immigration scheme is just another way to redistribute Canada's wealth (msn.com)

Her argument is terrible: 

"To analyze the benefits of immigration, it’s important to look at the GDP per capita figures. This metric makes it obvious that Canadian immigration has served mostly to cut the pie into smaller pieces for everybody: Canada’s GDP ranks ninth in size, but its GDP per capita is only 18th, less than the U.S. GDP per capita at fifth place, or Australia’s at 9th place."

She doesn't explain how immigration purportedly changes this ratio or tried to explain how.  Furthermore, GDP per capita doesn't show distribution or wealth disparity.  The GINI index is often used to measure that, and Canada's index is pretty constant.

https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/gini-index-wb-data.html

 

This board used to host good discussion on economic topics, and now it hosts Trudeau haters who drool about Canada being Communist, and quote political columns as evidence.

 

 

[blackbird]

On 6/11/2021 at 3:04 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Her argument is terrible: 

"To analyze the benefits of immigration, it’s important to look at the GDP per capita figures. This metric makes it obvious that Canadian immigration has served mostly to cut the pie into smaller pieces for everybody: Canada’s GDP ranks ninth in size, but its GDP per capita is only 18th, less than the U.S. GDP per capita at fifth place, or Australia’s at 9th place."

She doesn't explain how immigration purportedly changes this ratio or tried to explain how.  Furthermore, GDP per capita doesn't show distribution or wealth disparity.  The GINI index is often used to measure that, and Canada's index is pretty constant.

https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/gini-index-wb-data.html

 

This board used to host good discussion on economic topics, and now it hosts Trudeau haters who drool about Canada being Communist, and quote political columns as evidence.

 

 

 

 

There is plenty of evidence that Liberals have been sucking up to China for years and slipping into authoritarianism here too.  Most of our goods in the stores comes from China.  Read a few books and learn how Canada is slowly falling under the grip of Communist China.  300,000 Chinese people in Hong Kong hold Canadian citizenship.  Rich people in China know their money is not safe in the Communist state as the party could seize it at any time.  So what do they do to protect it?   They come to Canada for a few years so they can get citizenship, transfer their money into companies and real estate in Canada (lots in Vancouver area) and then many move back to Hong Kong.   I don't even think they have to come to Canada or become citizens to invest their money in real estate and companies in Canada.  Vast amounts of money has been laundered through casinos in BC for years while the BC government knew what was going on and turned a blind eye to it.  We have been watching the Global TV news from the Cullen Commission hearings about this nightly for months.  Where did all this money come from?

 I know of a school teacher in Canada who taught a class of Chinese students in China online from his home in Canada to speak English or French.  Canada has schools in China where the well-to-do send their kids.  They learn English (and possibly French) and other subjects as long as they also follow the CCP curriculum of subjects taught in China. We are becoming a province of China.  How's this going to work in the new world controlled by China with a cold war going on between the west and China?  How will this sit with our allies such as NATO and the Five Eyes with Canada providing an open door to China's control of the west?  What about Huawei 5G which Canada still has not made a decision on?

Meanwhile Canada is so far under the influence and control of China that the Liberal government cannot lift a finger to criticize the human rights violations of a million Uyghurs in China and abstained from voting to condemn the genocide.  The Liberals bent over backwards to keep dealing with China even after the Coronavirus came out of China.  They tried to arrange to get our vaccines from China, sent our PPEs to China, and in doing so, delayed the negotiation and procurement of vaccines from other countries.   Even when the opposition questions Trudeau about the Winnipeg virology lab transferring deadly viruses to China and the RCMP involvement, Trudeau calls it an anti-Asian hate question, when in fact it is a national security matter.  Trudeau is absolutely clueless about what is going on with China.

 What is there to like about liberal rule in Canada?  They are selling Canada out to foreign powers, particularly China and globalist powers like the U.N.

Edited June 12, 2021 by blackbird