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It's Official, the Trump-Russia Investigation was a Partisan Witch Hunt


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the senate trial should be really interesting... i don't understand why Russublicans and Trump don't get that subpoenaing the likes of Joe and Hunter Biden is a bad idea. i suspect that they will just say fuck you! why wouldn't they? that's what Trumps actors did to the House. Mitch and other people who are actually concerned for the future see a complete breakdown in branch power of the House and then the Senate if they are unable to call on people. someone like Hunter Biden may also just say "i'll go if Mulvaney goes.. and throw in Bolton as well" and Joe says "i'll go if Trump goes" and that would be a disaster for Russublicans.

Republicans try to avoid an impeachment trial civil war

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and, of course, always difficult to explain why it is that Trump and his executives can't get their story right?

Pompeo insists Trump 'made clear' to Lavrov that he won't tolerate Russian meddling

“We haven't even discussed elections,” Lavrov said, later appearing to indicate that he had raised with the president remarks Pompeo made to him earlier in the day about election interference.

“I never talk about what the president says in those private settings, but I can tell you that Foreign Minister Lavrov’s statement is not accurately a reflection of my recollection of that meeting,” Pompeo said Wednesday.

and we all know that Pompeo's "recollection" is as good as anyone elses in this administration! not very good! lol!

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16 hours ago, pinky tuscadero said:

there certainly were people that wanted him out, but definitely not the type a decent person would cast their lot withtrt

LIke the European Union? LIke the entire American government, state department, CIA, and everyone else who dealt with Ukraine?
I'm not interested in some shitty propaganda video. This whole thing is a farce, invented by the scum in the white house to defame Biden through his son. The only people who buy it are the mindless, brainless cult members who worship Trump because they're too stupid and ignorant to understand what he is.

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5 minutes ago, Argus said:

LIke the European Union? LIke the entire American government, state department, CIA, and everyone else who dealt with Ukraine?
I'm not interested in some shitty propaganda video. This whole thing is a farce, invented by the scum in the white house to defame Biden through his son. The only people who buy it are the mindless, brainless cult members who worship Trump because they're too stupid and ignorant to understand what he is.

You seem very emotional in your arguments, I feel bad for you, really.

Biden's son had no qualification to be on the board of an energy company. He had no qualification to get 50k/month on this board. Biden threatened Ukraine, he admitted it in front of cameras.

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42 minutes ago, Argus said:

Ignoring every subpoena received, for one.

I don’t think every subpoena was ignored, but certainly many were.  However, every administration has been in violation of ignoring subpoenas, which is definitely a big problem that congress needs to enforce better.  

This was finally settled almost 8 years after the subpoenas were originally issued to the Obama Administration.  8 years.  There are many other examples as well.

Subpoena fight over operation Fast and Furious documents finally settled

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/09/fast-and-furious-documents-holder-1313120

 

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10 minutes ago, Shady said:

I don’t think every subpoena was ignored, but certainly many were.  However, every administration has been in violation of ignoring subpoenas, which is definitely a big problem that congress needs to enforce better.  

This was finally settled almost 8 years after the subpoenas were originally issued to the Obama Administration.  8 years.  There are many other examples as well.

Subpoena fight over operation Fast and Furious documents finally settled

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/09/fast-and-furious-documents-holder-1313120

 

full agreement.

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1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

You seem very emotional in your arguments, I feel bad for you, really.

Biden's son had no qualification to be on the board of an energy company. He had no qualification to get 50k/month on this board. Biden threatened Ukraine, he admitted it in front of cameras.

I don't give a shit. Biden, as part of official US and EU policy told Ukraine they needed to get corruption under control. And one of the things that required was getting rid of Sergeant Schultz and putting someone who was actually interested in investigating corruption in place. There was no advantage to either of the Bidens in this despite the insinuations of the sleaziest people in Washington.

Trump's daughter and son in law have no qualifications to be in the White House (nor does Trump). That's a lot more important to me than whether Biden's son was hired by some company because of his influence. Trump's sons are negotiating for Chinese funding  for Trump's Malaysia project while his daughter is negotiating with them for trademarks even as Trump is negotiating with them over trade. That's about a thousand times more pertinent to the discussion than anything Biden's son did.

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33 minutes ago, Shady said:

I don’t think every subpoena was ignored, but certainly many were.  However, every administration has been in violation of ignoring subpoenas, which is definitely a big problem that congress needs to enforce better. 

Here's the thing. You can fight a subpoena in court, but you can't ignore it. You can't tell everyone in the administration to ignore all requests for information and testimony from the part of government which is constitutionally mandated to provide oversight of that administration. Personally I think the Democrats should just drop the hammer and arrest all these people. It's been done before. People go to prison for ignoring/refusing congressional subpoenas and they should arrest anyone who does so, starting with Rudy Giuliani.

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On 12/12/2019 at 3:22 PM, Argus said:

Five hundred legal scholars signed a note saying it was.

I wonder how these wannaby American conservatives would react if it emerged that Justin Trudeau had tried to blackmail a foreign government into launching a phony investigation into his conservative opponent in the year before an election.

500 paid off lying scum democratic supporters. The more you write here, the more I am starting to believe that you are totally clueless when it comes to politics.

Trudeau or Teflon Don is immune from any kind of prosecution. We all have seen that happen already. And for his crimes he gets to be the emperor of Canada for another four more years. Teflon Don will always get away with his crimes against the taxpayer's of Canada, while the conservatives will be forced to pay up for their crimes against the taxpayer's of Canada. 

Trump is the man, man. :lol:

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1 hour ago, Argus said:

I don't give a shit. Biden, as part of official US and EU policy told Ukraine they needed to get corruption under control. And one of the things that required was getting rid of Sergeant Schultz and putting someone who was actually interested in investigating corruption in place. There was no advantage to either of the Bidens in this despite the insinuations of the sleaziest people in Washington.

Trump's daughter and son in law have no qualifications to be in the White House (nor does Trump). That's a lot more important to me than whether Biden's son was hired by some company because of his influence. Trump's sons are negotiating for Chinese funding  for Trump's Malaysia project while his daughter is negotiating with them for trademarks even as Trump is negotiating with them over trade. That's about a thousand times more pertinent to the discussion than anything Biden's son did.

Joey boy Biden committed an act of Quid Pro Quo, Trump did not. What channel are you watching on TV? Some pro Biden TV channel? :lol:

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On 12/12/2019 at 1:24 PM, eyeball said:

Here's another good assessment of where Canada's regard for our idiot neighbors is coming from and especially why.  

 

 

BY CHRIS SELLEY
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: DEC 5, 2019

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-donald-trump-is-right-about-deadbeat-canada-but-no-one-here-cares/amp

Are there any Canadians out there that really do give a chit about Canada anymore? I know that Trump could careless about Canada. Trump says, just pay your friggin bills Trudeau and shut the hell up. Geez, such political incorrectness talk coming from an American President. I love it! Bash Trudeau some more, Mr. President. Gawd only knows that he deserves all that you can heav-ho on him. 

Maybe if Trudeau would stop going to the Canadians taxpayer's ATM bank machine all the time, and taking out millions of our tax dollars every day, and giving it all away to refugees and to third world countries in foreign aid, Canada could pay it's bills on time.  Canada will always be seen as a deadbeat country to Trump because that is what it has become now. An insignificant socialist country. ;)

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45 minutes ago, taxme said:

Joey boy Biden committed an act of Quid Pro Quo, Trump did not. What channel are you watching on TV? Some pro Biden TV channel? :lol:

again, again, again... if Joey needs to be investigated then so be it. but let the proper authorities decide if and when... its not for any political official to be deciding that they need those investigations announced in front of cameras now or you don't get weapons that will save your peoples lives.

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4 minutes ago, godzilla said:

again, again, again... if Joey needs to be investigated then so be it. but let the proper authorities decide if and when... its not for any political official to be deciding that they need those investigations announced in front of cameras now or you don't get weapons that will save your peoples lives.

Democrats are corrupt, Joe Biden is Corrupt, the democratic party is totally corrupt. That says it all. ;)

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i think this is a great article if you think that Trump destroying the powers of the House and Senate are a joke. the fact that the American people voted a majority in the House to protect themselves from tyranny is about to become meaningless. Trump supporters have already made it clear on this forum that there is _nothing_ that Trump can do that would cause them to abandon him because he will simply say that he didn't do it.

Trump tears up the Clinton impeachment playbook

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19 minutes ago, taxme said:

Democrats are corrupt, Joe Biden is Corrupt, the democratic party is totally corrupt. That says it all. ;)

ok, so they're corrupt. but the American people voted them an overwhelming majority in the House. that's democracy.

and now, the system that has kept Americans free from tyranny is about to implode at the hands of a tyrant. Trump is exploring exactly how much power and control he can have without any oversight from the other "equal" branches.

and, on topic, he is doubling down on his need to prove that it was the Ukraine that interfered in the 2016 election and not Russia. and no one has any plausible explanation why that is so important to him. there is no explanation other than he is a Russian spy. because it doesn't matter to anyone except the Russians.

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5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

OK, but it still matters a lot more than the Canadian political shit-show.

matter to who? Trump is making a joke of the US political system. and American voters are the laughing stock because their system of three "equal" branches is a joke. Trump made it a joke.

its not the politics that matters... but that the world has one more power/money hungry tyrant to contend with. at Canadas border.

as Canadians we need to nuke up.

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4 minutes ago, godzilla said:

matter to who? Trump is making a joke of the US political system. and American voters are the laughing stock because their system of three "equal" branches is a joke. Trump made it a joke.

its not the politics that matters... but that the world has one more power/money hungry tyrant to contend with.

 

The world doesn't care as much if Canada elects a tyrant....American domestic and foreign policy matters a lot more, no matter who wins.

The world has plenty of tyrants...why can't the Americans have one....again ?

 

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