August1991 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) The most wonderful thing in Trump's election is the response of Obama: Obama's staff will help in the change. Indeed, Obama specifically referred to Bush Jnr in how the transition occurred. (In 2008, Bush Jnr helped Obama and Obama said that he would do the same in 2016.) ==== IMHO, it is the peaceful transfer of State power between opponents/non-family members/without death that defines/marks/signals a civilized/democratic society. Civilized/democratic: "Is it possible, without violence/death, to throw the buggers out?" By my measure of a "civilized/democratic society", China is not civilized. Russia is not civilized. Even Britain is not. America, for over two centuries, is civilized and democratic. Around the world, make no mistake, from China to Russia, ordinary people see and understand what is happening. Edited November 10, 2016 by August1991 Quote
sharkman Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 4 hours ago, betsy said: Nail my foot. He's lost it. That guy is in denial, or hallucinating! Yeah, there's a lot of that going around but give it some time, those shallow enough to be consumed with fear need to work through the steps of denial. And the idea that alfa male Trump will delegate parts of his job to nice guy Pence is LOL. Pence, a meek mild Christian, knows he's the VP. In 8 years, he'll be a force though. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, sharkman said: Yeah, there's a lot of that going around but give it some time, those shallow enough to be consumed with fear need to work through the steps of denial. Thank goodness...the doctor is IN. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
August1991 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Something else. I wish that every voter in America had shown a purple finger walking out of the voting station. You vote? You dip your finger into permanent purple ink and you have a purple finger for several days. Let this be the symbol, world symbol, signal, that you have voted: Once. And only once. And maybe secretly; no one else knows your choice. Edited November 10, 2016 by August1991 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 We get these stickers instead of purple middle fingers: Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
August1991 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: We get these stickers instead of purple middle fingers: The stickers (like poppies) are voluntary. I want a purple finger because you can only dip one finger. (No cheating; voting twice.) Unlike a sticker, it's permanent (like a scar/tattoo). Everyone knows that you voted. ===== IMV, we in the civilized West must show/defend our sophisticated way of life. F*ck I hate this software forum.... Quote
OftenWrong Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 9 hours ago, Altai said: Now I declare my support for Trump because I see that everyone I hate supports the other candidate. I always follow my enemies' arrows to find true path. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr. Quote
Altai Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 Now American people from all over the US are helding democracy walks against democracy. LoL this is tragic comic. Democracy is not democracy for some people when it contradicts with their interests. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Hal 9000 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 I think what these protesters fear the most is accountability. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
kactus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Altai said: Now American people from all over the US are helding democracy walks against democracy. LoL this is tragic comic. Democracy is not democracy for some people when it contradicts with their interests. In US and the rest of the western world people can 'hold' democracy walks without getting arrested by the Sultans. Quote
kimmy Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: I think what these protesters fear the most is accountability. Accountability for what? To what? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
marcus Posted November 10, 2016 Author Report Posted November 10, 2016 Just now, Hal 9000 said: I think what these protesters fear the most is accountability. What they fear the most is the caricature that the Hillary leaning mainstream media and The Donald himself created. And of course the unknown, as Donald didn't really have a clear platform besides the 'never ever gonna happen' paid by Mexico wall and the keep a religion out of the U.S. promise. Donald stayed with a simple script and he played the timing well, by focusing on the Americans who have lost their appetite for the same old politician playing in the same old system. Not to mention the large number of Bernie supporters who refused to vote for Hillary just for the sake of beating Trump. At the end of it all, I'm pretty sure Donald won't show any struggle against the system and the main players who have poured lots of money into politics, like the military industrial complex, wall street, pharma, big oil and states such as Saudi and Israel. In return, Donald will not be challenged on the tax breaks and favours that he will get out of this presidency. A small part of me hopes that I'm wrong and that he will suddenly have this desire to leave a positive legacy by pushing policies that benefit the people and to tackle the influence that has possessed many American politicians and of course, to keep U.S. out of international military adventures. At the end of the day, the best thing about this made for TV show is that there is a very good chance that a politicians like Bernie will have a chance to win the next Democratic primaries. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
betsy Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 10 hours ago, sharkman said: Yeah, there's a lot of that going around but give it some time, those shallow enough to be consumed with fear need to work through the steps of denial. And the idea that alfa male Trump will delegate parts of his job to nice guy Pence is LOL. Pence, a meek mild Christian, knows he's the VP. In 8 years, he'll be a force though. I'm waiting for Pence! I think he'll make an excellent successor to Trump. Quote
kactus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 This is not far from truth... Trump's first day at the Oval Office after being elected President. First briefing to the President by CIA, Pentagon, FBI: Trump: We must destroy ISIS immediately. No delays. CIA: We cannot do that, sir. We created them along with Turkey, Saudi, Qatar and others. Trump: The Democrats created them. CIA: We created ISIS, sir. You need them or else you would lose funding from the natural gas lobby. Trump: Stop funding Pakistan. Let India deal with them. CIA: We can't do that. Trump: Why is that? CIA: India will cut Balochistan out of Pak. Trump: I don't care. CIA: India will have peace in Kashmir. They will stop buying our weapons. They will become a superpower. We have to fund Pakistan to keep India busy in Kashmir. Trump: But you have to destroy the Taliban. CIA: Sir, we can't do that. We created the Taliban to keep Russia in check during the 80s. Now they are keeping Pakistan busy and away from their nukes. Trump: We have to destroy terror sponsoring regimes in the Middle East. Let us start with the Saudis. Pentagon: Sir, we can't do that. We created those regimes because we wanted their oil. We can't have democracy there, otherwise their people will get that oil - and we cannot let their people own it. Trump: Then, let us invade Iran. Pentagon: We cannot do that either, sir. Trump: Why not? CIA: We are talking to them, sir. Trump: What? Why? CIA: We want our stealth drone back. If we attack them, Russia will obliterate us as they did to our buddy ISIS in Syria. Besides we need Iran to keep Israel in check. Trump: Then let us invade Iraq again. CIA: Sir, our friends (ISIS) are already occupying 1/3rd of Iraq. Trump: Why not the whole of Iraq? CIA: We need the Shi'ite gov't of Iraq to keep ISIS in check. Trump: I am banning Muslims from entering US. FBI: We can't do that. Trump: Why not? FBI: Then our own population will become fearless. Trump: I am deporting all illegal immigrants to south of the border. Border patrol: You can't do that, sir. Trump: Why not? Border patrol: If they're gone, who will build the wall? Trump: I am banning H1B visas. USCIS: You cannot do that. Trump: Why? Chief of staff: If you do so we'll have to outsource White House operations to Bangalore. Which is in India. Trump (sweating profusely by now): What the hell should I do as President??? CIA: Enjoy the White House, sir! We will take care of the rest!!!! Quote
sharkman Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 Man, the tin foil hat theories are really coming out. Quote
?Impact Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, kactus said: This is not far from truth... Well done, it is certainly a tangled web. Quote
Argus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 6 hours ago, betsy said: I'm waiting for Pence! I think he'll make an excellent successor to Trump. You don't know anything about Pence other than he's opposed to abortion. I think that's basically the only issue you care about, and you'd support Satan if he told you they'd end abortion. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
BC_chick Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 Haha, great post @kactus Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
segnosaur Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 15 hours ago, marcus said: What they fear the most is the caricature that the Hillary leaning mainstream media and The Donald himself created. And of course the unknown, as Donald didn't really have a clear platform besides the 'never ever gonna happen' paid by Mexico wall and the keep a religion out of the U.S. promise. Well, he did make a few other promises... cutting taxes to the wealthy (which will drive up the debt), ending NAFTA (which will harm the economy), and appointing right wing judges to the supreme court (which will ensure that women and minorities will continue to be picked on.) Although the Wall and muslim ban were probably more famous. Quote
eyeball Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 6 hours ago, sharkman said: Man, the tin foil hat theories are really coming out. Actually the theory just won the presidency. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 Justin Trudeau made promises too.....guess he won't be banning entry into Canada for President Trump....will be kissing his butt instead. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 At this rate there is a mass exodus of fellow americans running to their neighbouring country to the North....Never mind Trump.... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Posted November 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, kactus said: At this rate there is a mass exodus of fellow americans running to their neighbouring country to the North....Never mind Trump.... That's OK....thousands more Canadians will be wintering over in Trump's America...just like they always do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted November 11, 2016 Report Posted November 11, 2016 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Justin Trudeau made promises too.....guess he won't be banning entry into Canada for President Trump....will be kissing his butt instead. Trudeau promised that? The moderators allowing you to continue with your sideshow only makes this place more irrelevant. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Posted November 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, Smallc said: The moderators allowing you to continue with your sideshow only makes this place more irrelevant. Thank you....I am sure you realize that a Trump victory provides yet another four years of rich, American material. MLW thrives on American content. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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