paxamericana Posted July 2, 2018 Report Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: This is great....Democrat extremists are now calling for the abolishment of ICE...a huge political mistake if they want to win over moderate voters. Clue: Open Borders is not a winning position in the United States body politic. Yup these anti trump fringe group coming out of the wood work are only pushing moderate voter to trump. Quote
-TSS- Posted July 16, 2018 Report Posted July 16, 2018 Trump today here in Finland to meet Putin. Also the expected Soros-funded protesters have crawled out. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Helsinki vendors are selling hats with "Make Helsinki Great Again" . Edited July 16, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
-TSS- Posted July 16, 2018 Report Posted July 16, 2018 Clinton and Yeltsin also met in Helsinki 21 years ago. That is a suitable interval for the two countries' leaders to meet here. More often than that would be really inconvenient. Quote
-TSS- Posted July 16, 2018 Report Posted July 16, 2018 What a load of blaablaablaa that summit was! And I had to change my daily routines just to avoid getting stuck somewhere because of all the security arrangements! Putin and Trump: Next time you meet go somewhere else, please! 2 Quote
Argus Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 Is it possible Trump's biggest supporter and enabler is wavering because of his kowtowing before Putin? Putin eats Trump's lunch http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/16/putin-eats-trumps-lunch-in-helsinki-this-is-no-way-to-win-against-russia.html Trump should stop praising America's enemies and blaming former presidents http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/16/neil-cavuto-rips-donald-trump-russia-putin-summit-and-election-interference Trump scored on his own goal http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/16/trump-scores-on-his-own-goal.html 2 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
BubberMiley Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 It's a turning point. You can't deny the likelihood of collusion with a straight face anymore. They've essentially put it out there and challenged the GOP to do something about it. I think there may still be enough Republicans who believe in party over country and would cut off their nose if they thought it would cause "liberal tears," but their argument immediate shifted to talking about the Obama Putin hot mic (which talks about election year politics, not any sort of collusion, but whatever). It signals a shift from "no collusion" to a desperate "but what about Obama, maybe he colluded too!" Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 Whatever America does is always a turning point...for Canada. Enjoy the show ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
paxamericana Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: It's a turning point. You can't deny the likelihood of collusion with a straight face anymore. They've essentially put it out there and challenged the GOP to do something about it. I think there may still be enough Republicans who believe in party over country and would cut off their nose if they thought it would cause "liberal tears," but their argument immediate shifted to talking about the Obama Putin hot mic (which talks about election year politics, not any sort of collusion, but whatever). It signals a shift from "no collusion" to a desperate "but what about Obama, maybe he colluded too!" Meh, there's going to be critics and trump knows meeting putin is a huge political gamble. Both GOP and Democrats disapprove of it. But i think the risk is worth it of we can work a deal with russia over the middle east. Quote
Argus Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, paxrom said: Meh, there's going to be critics and trump knows meeting putin is a huge political gamble. Both GOP and Democrats disapprove of it. But i think the risk is worth it of we can work a deal with russia over the middle east. The only deal that seemed to come out of that conference was surrender. Russia will do what they want, in Syria, and elsewhere, including meddling in US politics, without any criticism from Trump, and maybe they'll let the US do a little humanitarian work in the cities they're bombing Hell, even Newt Gingrich is angry. Edited July 17, 2018 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, paxrom said: Meh, there's going to be critics and trump knows meeting putin is a huge political gamble. Both GOP and Democrats disapprove of it. But i think the risk is worth it of we can work a deal with russia over the middle east. Agreed...Trump haters are only freaking out because it is Trump...instead of Bush or Obama. Russia matters.....Trump and Putin matter a lot more than Justin Trudeau and his Heinz ketchup boycott. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, Argus said: The only deal that seemed to come out of that conference was surrender. Russia will do what they want, in Syria, and elsewhere, including meddling in US politics, without any criticism from America, and maybe they'll let the US do a little humanitarian work in the cities they're bombing Hell, even Newt Gingrich is angry. Trump attacked Syrian airfields despite Putin's warnings.....Obama didn't....and Trudeau couldn't because he is a NATO deadbeat. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Rue Posted July 17, 2018 Report Posted July 17, 2018 First of I feel for TSS our forum Finnish contributor and the stench Putin and Trump must have made. Oh well wait for it to rain I guess. Next the crap that came out of Trump's mouth indicates: 1-the Ruskies have compromising dirt on him which I suspect is related to money laundering of Russian mob money through many of the financial networks that financed his shady deals in real estate over the years not to mention those of his transexual spouse Melana (not that there is anything wrong with that) wife spanking and peeing on him which explains the yellow hair; 2-it was a disgraceful act of treason. Trump has managed to make Obama look good on world stage. He has absolutely betrayed the nation sucking up to North Korea and Russia and giving both these animals credibility. He is a disgrace. He has managed to destroy any semblance the US had remaining on the world stage. To see the day when the US President performed oral sex on the Russian leader in public as he did was past contemptable. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 18, 2018 Report Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 8:56 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Agreed...Trump haters are only freaking out because it is Trump...instead of Bush or Obama. Russia matters.....Trump and Putin matter a lot more than Justin Trudeau and his Heinz ketchup boycott. No, many of us had many complaints about Bush and Obama. You'd know that being so obsessed with this board and how Canucks complain about Amurika. Trump is just another POS POTUS like the ones before him. This election, you got the turd sandwich. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 18, 2018 Report Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 8:58 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump attacked Syrian airfields despite Putin's warnings.....Obama didn't....and Trudeau couldn't because he is a NATO deadbeat. Obama got the ball rolling with ISIS to help with all that. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 18, 2018 Report Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 8:56 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump and Putin matter a lot more than Justin Trudeau and his Heinz ketchup boycott. Agreed. Trump could shit his pants repeatedly, have the whole world laugh at America's moronic state of being, and - you're right - the whole mess would still matter more. I think it needs to be pointed out for a few more years, please. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Hudson Jones Posted July 18, 2018 Report Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) On 7/17/2018 at 11:53 AM, Rue said: First of I feel for TSS our forum Finnish contributor and the stench Putin and Trump must have made. Oh well wait for it to rain I guess. Next the crap that came out of Trump's mouth indicates: 1-the Ruskies have compromising dirt on him which I suspect is related to money laundering of Russian mob money through many of the financial networks that financed his shady deals in real estate over the years not to mention those of his transexual spouse Melana (not that there is anything wrong with that) wife spanking and peeing on him which explains the yellow hair; 2-it was a disgraceful act of treason. Trump has managed to make Obama look good on world stage. He has absolutely betrayed the nation sucking up to North Korea and Russia and giving both these animals credibility. Trump continues to suck up just fine to Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson, the Israel First donor! You're just fine with him sucking up to and colluding with these (your) animals, of course. Edited July 18, 2018 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Queenmandy85 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 This thread is approaching 400 pages. I say this, not as a criticism, but an observation. I had little interest in American politics before President Trump. The President has made the subject compelling. 400 pages of this thread says it is not just me. Our American contributers BC and Paxrom have their own reasons for participation, but why are Canadians so consumed with the POTUS? President Trump owes part of his electoral victory to the mainstream mdia. During the primaries and then the election, they framed his campaign success as inevitable. "Who can stop Trump?" Meaning, nobody can. I doubt it was intended but it worked. President Trump is a marketing dream. He is first and formost, an entertainer and he is very good at it. He won't let us take our eyes off him. In fiction, a great author creates tension by making the reader wonder if this time, it is all going to crash...yet it doesn't. President Trump holds our attention the same way and, by doing that, has re-invigorated the mainstream media. President Trump and the media need each other. I am not saying he is a genius. Perhaps he is just intuitive. Is there a difference? Entertainers as a profession, are gaining an increasing amount of influence in American politics as are journalists. The legal profession is no longer a pre-requisite for a career in politics. Just a few post-coffee thoughts. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: This thread is approaching 400 pages. I say this, not as a criticism, but an observation. I had little interest in American politics before President Trump. The President has made the subject compelling. 400 pages of this thread says it is not just me. Our American contributers BC and Paxrom have their own reasons for participation, but why are Canadians so consumed with the POTUS? Please consider that Canada, especially "Anglo" Canada, already had a firm obsession with American politics and culture long before Trump ran for president. I wouldn't be here for over ten years if American content was not so pervasive in forum topics. Canadian media gorges itself on what is happening in the United States, regardless of Trump. 1 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
paxamericana Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: Our American contributers BC and Paxrom have their own reasons for participation Initially I just came to say a friendly hello but BC exposed me to your anti-american fetish. It was too good of an opportunity to pass so I join the darkside calling canadians out for their behavior. But mainly I really want to be a pro-conservative voice to counter democrat liberal globalization agenda that never benefitted the average american "deplorables". Edited July 19, 2018 by paxrom 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, paxrom said: Initially I just came to say a friendly hello but BC exposed me to your anti-american fetish. It was too good of an opportunity to pass so I join the darkside calling canadians out for their behavior. But mainly I really want to be a pro-conservative voice to counter democrat liberal globalization agenda that never benefitted the average american "deplorables". As Robbie Burns wrote, " God give us the gift to see ourselves as others see us." We are fortunate to have yourself and Bush-Cheney holding a mirror up to us. You each elevate my blood pressure at times, but I guess that means I'm still alive. Anti-Americanism is no different than anti Semitism, racism, Islamiphobia or any othe kind of bigotry. Edited July 19, 2018 by Queenmandy85 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
paxamericana Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: As Robbie Burns wrote, " God give us the gift to see ourselves as others see us." Anti-Americanism is no different than anti Semitism, racism, Islamiphobia or any othe kind of bigotry. Yeah but we're not really offended by Anti-American sentiment, we're more amused, if anything BC didn't spend 10 years complaining about anti-american sentiment, he spent 10 years trolling you guys about it. I'm just a late adopter. xP Edited July 19, 2018 by paxrom 1 Quote
eyeball Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, paxrom said: Yeah but we're not really offended by Anti-American sentiment, we're more amused The haughty hubris of exceptionalism - the root cause of the sentiment. It's more like an easy target that you pick off when it pops up than bait. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
paxamericana Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's more like an easy target that you pick off when it pops up than bait. It's a gift that keeps on giving. Anti-American sentiment creates a negative feedback loop to our pleasure. Quote
eyeball Posted July 19, 2018 Report Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, paxrom said: It's a gift that keeps on giving. Anti-American sentiment creates a negative feedback loop to our demise. FIFY Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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