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I think this just about sums it up. Everything after that is just symptomatic of TDS.

TBH, the US will protect us, even if it's just because they don't want someone else's army on the 49th. We just shouldn't take advantage of them like that though. It's like they're our daddy and we refuse to grow up.

Concessions on both sides are typical of negotiations, and generally not referred to as folding. 'another all "p**ss & wind" semi-politician' - uninformed and bias comment knowing we have no idea of the discussion details or what the final deal will look like.

What do you think the best strategy would have been, knowing the guy across the table has a better hand and knowing thousands of Canadian jobs need resolution to a trade deal to move forward?

Standard height door...

White liberals hate themselves. They're filled with guilt. They compare themselves to perfection rather than every other civilization ever. They want nothing short of the destruction of Western civilization. White liberals mean well, but are among the least-wise humans to ever exist. They're hopelessly self-destruction. They can't stomach the tough and sometimes brutal decisions it takes to survive in the natural world we live in. Their ideas are utopian and idealistic, they don't live in the realm of reality. And they certainly don't bother to think about the longterm consequences of the idea they implement. The path to evil is paved with good intentions.

You seem to have a problem with farmers earning enough to make a living without government subsidies or using undocumented labour.

You must be talking about Poilievre whose whole election pitch was "Canada is broken, the apocalypse is nigh!" He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist.

Does anyone fail to see the irony of celebrating the founding of a nation that our 'elites' disparage on a daily basis? A nation founded by people our academics curse and sneer at, and peopled by those our schools utterly ignore in favour of genuflecting toward natives? Take pride in Canada! Why? Isn't Canada an illegitimate, genocidal, colonial, racist, oppressive, so-called country on stolen land? How many of the Canada Day celebrations will start out with a groveling mea culpa that it's being held on the land that rightly belongs to someone else? This isn't how ordinary Canadians ever felt, but to the elites, its mandatory, and they're doing their best to teach our young the same absurd ideological beliefs they suffer under. Canada's tradition of sweeping its British roots under the rug | National Post

This will probably end fairly well. This won't stoke the fires of racism at all I would say 🙄🙄🙄 I'm aware that the left is this stupid, but how???

Results of the popular vote tell a different story . . .

Awww, that's better. Glad to be your comrade again LOL Although, being a comrade to a mini LOSER is nothing to brag about

STFU comrade Stalin. 🤮

My comment about Carney having to deal with a child has nothing to do with seeing our "country go down a drain". He's dealing with a someone who acts like a petulant child... that's obvious. I'm not going down the vaxx road but 100% agree that Trudeau was a failure. Would I have voted for him if in fact he chose not to resign...not a freaking chance. Would I have voted for PP...no I wouldn't have. Disagree that Canada isn't putting up a fight. We just had an election 2 months ago and the Canadian people have spoken...they want the liberals to stay in power with Carney running the show. Where that gets us....who knows, but I'm rooting for him.

Of course his staff would call it that LOL Trump and his hangars on have to have a "victory". Fortunately...like so much of their celebrating is often debunked a week or 2 later... like the obliterated Iranian nuclear sites I guess what upsets me the most is our side not debunking Trumps 1diotic claims. Then again, I can see us being quiet lest we pi$$ him off too often LOL

Too bad your TWEET is NOT evidence that any law was broken. Also SHAMEFUL that the DoJ is LEAKING the existence of an FBI investigation to TAR a politician in violation of what WAS DoJ policy against using the power of government to LIBEL ANYONE BEFORE an INDICTMENT. Of course, there are NO BOUNDARIES in the Trump admin based on JUSTICE nor ILLEGALLY USING THE DoJ for POLITICS.

Better question is what the hell does EV's have to do with - Liberal Housing Minister hid $11M real estate portfolio from ethics commissioner (which is the topic) You are seriously annoying.... I've told you what I think about ICE vehicles and EV's, and there has been nothing hidden by Robertson. Next....

Not a great one. Should have been done as part of the negotiations. Would've been nice to say so the whole world saw "We'll drop the DST if you drop Softwood Lumber Duties" and at least parried their threats.

Like you missed this last comment here: And here: Instead, you want to spend the next couple of days making inane comments on how angry you think posters are...

Ya sure...you mean like Iran try to hide theirs.... Look Canadians have shown for decades they don't take their own security serious "read that again"save all the military people the time and effort they put into daily routine...don't act like your given up something when you really don't care Sure nuke them all....you should read more about nuclear weapons find out their effects, climate change will be the least of your worries... You don't know what threats our country faces on a daily basis...but thats because like most Canadians you have your head in a hole...

I'm just asking questions, comrade. Don't you want to explain why your dumbass wandered into this thread?

Tax them even more!!!!

We do. Well... the first part anyway. The second part isn't working out the way the left was hoping

'uninformed and bias comment knowing we have no idea of the discussion details or what the final deal will look like'.

So you are still running from your ignorant comments on guns...

Appease the bully and get it done after the trade negotiations are sealed. Too easy and makes sense. A business decision.

Dude, we have a fascist gov't. Once the Libs get their desired level of control of social media, 1-party rule officially begins.

The DST was a terrible policy anyways. It was a tax that would have been ultimately paid by Canadians, as companies like Netflix were just going to raise its Canadian subscription fees.

He had to fold, the was no other choice. The Carney is turning out to be just another all "p**ss & wind" semi-politician.

And his response was completely predictable. Just as his response to Canada immediately folding in the face of his bluster is completely predictable. He'll now demand more.

Damn you're hopeless.... exactly what point do I need to address. Auto makers are evolving to electrification or that I think it's a good idea.

Nice theory, but we all know how grants are awarded. And it has nothing to do with talent or ability or creating a 'thriving arts scene'. It's who you know and suck up to. It's a very incestuous relationship among artists/writers/musicians who form cliques within and outside government, rotating in and out, approving of each other's works while disparaging those they don't like. How many great writers or artists have emerged from this in the last twenty or thirty years? We don't fund youth sports to get pro athletes. We fund them because it's in the national interest to encourage youth to be physically active. How is it in the national interest to produce artists virtually no one will ever hear of, writers almost no one will ever read, TV shows almost no one will ever watch?

I think it was the wise thing to do. The petulant child across the table has a better hand and more money in his pocket. Whether he was bluffing or not Canada needs resolution to a deal quicker than the US does. Give the child a win to build him up. Dollars were minimal in the grand scheme of things, but agree this will resurface at some point. Until then, need to get this behind us for clarity in the industries that affect a lot of Canadian workers.

So your simple little mind can't see the connection between man-made pollutants and climate change. You must be happy Trump wants to increase coal use and shut down renewables. Seems like you only lift your knuckles off the ground to cover your ears and eyes. Cover your mouth instead so you won't sound so ridiculous. Just another reason Canadians rejected you and your ilk.

That’s some selective story telling by Lilley who is shameless propagandist. You’ll recall TRUMP paused and walked back tariffs on us first, and did so multiple times. But you are also missing this:: Canada retaliates against U.S. steel imports after Trump terminates trade talks. The office of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. But late Friday, Canada retaliated against the U.S. by imposing a quota on some steel imports and a 50% surcharge for imports that exceed the quota. Canada's finance minister said the government was acting to protect its industry from "unjust U.S. tariffs." Canada's government said it "remains prepared to take additional steps as needed." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna215608 That’s not because of Trump that’s to keep PP and the conservatives onside. And our immigration policy is still pretty different from Trump’s. He is doing a lot of very right wing things to keep their support, even things conservatives couldn’t get away with. Carney has been very clear that the solution is to pivot our economy away from the US. He’s repeatedly pointed to the fact that Trump is unstable and his word is worthless, you manage him as best you can, but the solution is to diversify away from the US. And that’s what he’s been doing with great success, Canada and Europe have now formed the “No Homers Club” with USA shut out As a correction Carney didn’t say open up the free trade agreement now, he said he wants to begin a new comprehensive trade and security framework and that’s what they’re discussing now. The CUSMA renegotiation would then be shaped by that framework On the 51st state Trump’s comments have changed since Carney took office by the way. Trump went from calling the PM governor and saying he was going to use economic force to force Canada to join the US to simply saying he thinks it would be a good idea for Canadians to choose joining USA for themselves. Carney had explicitly said nobody can control Trump’s mouth least of all Trump so we need to move past that and not be distracted. What exactly do you think PP would have done differently?

Yes, patronage by royalty and lords. You don’t get it. First the point is not for government to only support specific works of art that it has assessed as being commercial successful. Its purpose is to support the arts generally to create a thriving arts scene, from which successful artists will emerge. Your argument is like saying government should not fund youth sports it should only fund specific kids who are definitely going to become pro athletes. But that’s not how you get pro athletes. You get pro athletes by funding sports generally, knowing that 99% of the kids will never go pro but a small minority will. Second even artists who aren’t commercially successful on their own without government subsidies contribute to the arts, for example they might inspire other more successful artists.

Just a correction: the “quota money” doesn’t go to the government. Farmers buy quotas from other farmers. And the provincial dairy boards are not “government” they’re dairy farmers elected by fellow dairy farmers, basically a self-regulating body. I don’t think there’s a difference in how milk tastes, just know that US milk can have artificial hormones in it. The only reason it costs less in USA is because the federal and state governments heavily subsidize farmers. The government gives them “price guarantees” so if the price goes below a certain amount the government pays them the difference. A variety of government departments from defence to education and more also have mandates to buy up and stockpile surplus dairy products. So America doesn’t do it better. Also American farmers dump milk far more often than in Canada, precisely because supply is not centrally managed and subsidies encourage overproduction. In Canada dumping is a last resort and usually due to some temporary disruption like a processing facility being unexpectedly offline. In the Canadian system everything is coordinated from producer to processor to retailer to minimize mismatches One other difference with USA is their dairy tends to come from very massive megafarms doing huge business exporting dairy products all around the world whereas Canada still tends to be primarily family farms All countries have some sort of protection or regulation for things like dairy and eggs.m because of their nature. While most other industries can shut down a factory when consumer demand or prices drop, cows are basically milk factories that can’t be shut down. The milk is coming out of that cow one way or another whether you want to sell it or not. And milk spoils quickly so can’t really be stored if sales are slow this week. Cows are milked 2-3 times a day and the milk has to be on the grocery store shelf a couple days after that. It seems that anywhere that doesn’t use supply management uses government subsidies instead, with the exception of New Zealand, which exports 95% of the milk it produces….that doesn’t seem any better.

Well I remember a sense of pride growing when we gt our own flag and Expo67. Quiet patriotism, not the flag licking hands over your heart chants and idol worship BS.

Not really everything goes over it.

I’ve never been good at indulging spoiled children and their tantrums.

How much do you wish to pay for your freedom and a free country?

Yeah, except you were not making some passing comment as if it could also be Dems... you were outright making this some Trump / MAGA issue. This was you: "The MAGAs simply want to impose their ideology and remake us in their image and Trump wants to serve his tech bro clients " It was not a comment open to simply adding on, well OK, Dems too. You were just outright wrong. No, I am just used to your silly games, no point in going past that first comment. You don't get to talk about all I can focus on when you ran away from your other dishonest position about right-wing vs left-wing violence.

Just ignore him. That isn’t negotiation, it’s just a bully trying to intimidate. Don’t play his game.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion, if i had given up i would not be posting my concerns here at all, or having this discussion with you......And from this side of the fence, the vast majority of Canadians have sat down in their corners to busy to be distract by any issue of our security apparatus...when it is they, that have let it slide into being a sh1t show...but your response is almost typical of any Canadian response, refuse to take any responsibility, and instead deflect and point fingers at someone else...pointing at the very heart of the issue the military it self... Canadian public have been sitting down with their hands over their mouths for decades...when soldiers were visiting food banks, when soldiers were homeless, when members were operating equipment their grandfathers operated, when Members were dying in combat because our equipment was shit, THEY were silent...instead what they did do was got behind our culture was toxic, DEI took hold of promotions and appointments, LGBTQ issues aslo were forced on them , to the point we put tampons into men's washrooms...pink hair, scruffy beards, men dressing like women, women dressing up as men, pronouns were now part of life...cancellations or false accusations were rampant this is what the Canadian public demanded and what we have today....they have turned a once proud warrior culture into a bag of hammers.... Just once in my life time i would like to see government / Canadians take some pride in something involved in our security apparatus...I've spent my entire career 35 years going to the world's sh#t holes enforcing our foreign policy....going to funerals of the bravest Canadian i know, most of their deaths directly tied to sh1tty equipment...writing my MP's and begging for new modern equipment, talking to any government official who came over for a photo op and telling them the same thing....being told by our government i could not talk to the public while in uniform...i spent my entire second tour Afghanistan on this very forum telling Canadians as much as i could as to what was going on...after being told it could end my career...So much for sitting down in a chair and doing nothing...before i finish i'd like to know what you have down, it must have dwarfed my contributions as you seem to look down on them with some sort of disdain...... I'm not posting here to argue with you, nor belittle you in some way...i'm posting here because i've seen the results of our military struggling for funding, for decades upon decades...and the results for the most part is flagged draped caskets filled with kids that bought into the myth that Canada will have our backs...when we needed them.... For decades i prayed , wished, hoped Canadian would one day stand up and say enough is enough....and while today most Canadians agree that our military needs some infusion of cash....the problem is much deeper than that, almost all of our equipment needs to be replaced, our infrastructure is crumbling at our feet, and Canadians can't for the life of them figure out why military people are leaving in droves... And here you are right now somehow inferring that this is my fault...and it is the military that has failed you....i don't think so...we have been here all the time, Canadians need to grow a set and either shut down our military, and give our sovereignty to someone else , or STFU and do what is needed to defend ourselves...

The only one that is racist here is you. You assumed that rich neighborhoods are white. Now why would you do that? Is it because you believe black people cant be rich?

The royal patronage is the equivalent of government subsidies today amd happens in every culture. The thing about supporting the arts is that government is not meant to pick and choose specific pieces or styles of art, they’re meant fund “the arts” broadly and generally with rhe goal of creating a vibrant arts scene, nothing more. Vibrant art scenes almost by definition are going to result in some controversial or unconventional art.

Liberal Housing Minister hid $11M real estate portfolio from ethics commissioner Isn't this a crime? I guess we'll see the evidence when charges are laid and the Minister is in court. Any idea when that'll be?