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No, I think it’s stupid. You people are misogynists. If a woman’s fat you call her fat if she’s physically fit you call her a man. Meanwhile, you’re all a bunch of pudgy balding jerks and you make yourselves feel superior by insulting people and attacking people’s gender, religion, sex orientation and race. None of that makes our society better; all the things you people do make our society worse, while you pretend to be patriots and you dress up in your stupid camp larp costumes pretending to be army guys. Hint: Being born white or straight does not make you superior to other people in any way, and no matter what you do, the minorities will soon outnumber the white people and you’ll be in the minority.

I gotta ask. After the fcking DISASTER Hillary became (even as she was perhaps the most detestable First Lady of all time) do you REALLY think the Democrat Party has become so LAME in its presidential contenders that they would even consider THIS as presidential timbre?

I pointed out this base rate fallacy of his on the 2nd day or so of his crusade months ago. It really couldn't be simpler but horses and water as they say.

Your inability to comprehend and honestly discuss basic information has not changed all of these months (and FFS, learn the definition of the word "several") but for folks playing along at home ^^^ that post is bunch of pure, distilled crap. Statistical malpractice with deadly results. It's been pointed out to him many, many times that any measure of vaccine efficacy should control for age/risk. Despite this being pointed out, he consistently attempts to do the exact opposite, comparing the oldest and highest risk group that have been multi-vaxxed against the youngest and lowest risk group: the unvaxxed. Even if one *doesn't* control for age/risk comparing the standard vax crowd against the unvaxxed is 2x+ less likely to die. That's in the plain data. Again, without controlling for age at all. And when one does have the full data, the difference is even more dramatic. The PHAC data source that he, himself, cites EXPLICITLY contradict him: "Between August 29, 2022 and September 25, 2022, unvaccinated cases were 3 times more likely to be hospitalized and 5 times more likely to die from their illness, compared to cases with a completed primary vaccine series." They could not say it any plainer or more directly. I don't know that I've ever seen a more selfish and dangerous case of cherry picking. I believe this is because he has spent months and hundreds of posts spreading deadly misinformation and correcting course is too embarrassing. He'll deny, deny, deny until he dies--possibly from COVID. His ego is simply far more valuable to him than the lives of his countrymen.

You can talk all you want, but the data you are presenting is incomplete and you can’t use it to draw the conclusions you’re making. The epidemiologists who have analyzed all available data have concluded, in that report which you’re quoting from, that vaccination reduces risk of death.

Hiring a person to chase down culprits of your delusions isn't common sense

Sure seems lefty media is hyping up the racism thing and putting her front and center these days

@Infidel Dog IIRC, Statistia is actually sourcing data from the PHAC site at timed intervals, so you're looking at the same data, though perhaps off by an update cycle from time to time. Here's the chart from PHAC (you just select cases deceased in figure 4. And yes, the groups at highest risk are vaccinating at the highest rates.

Ah, the simple pleasure of making cruel and unfunny "jokes" at the expense of others. Whatever happened to the good ol' days when one could bully to the contentment of one's tiny, shriveled heart. Now society is so "woke" it's not even acceptable to tease a fat girl until she commits suicide. "Libbies" have ruined all the fun.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but you seem to be suggesting that tossing an additional 10% of Black children onto the streets with no education, no prospects and no hope will have the effect of reducing crime. That's pretty crazy, IMO. Most people are looking for ways to keep kids off the streets.

Pretty much where you stated unequivocally that vaccinating people who were not at risk skews and manipulates the data to serve a political purpose... this is a fact This requires data skewers and manipulators as well as their political bosses to plan, coordinate and then execute the said skewing and manipulating. How many dozens upon dozens and hundreds do you think would be needed nationally and thousands internationally to accomplish this? This of course is also on top of the thousands and perhaps millions of other people involved with other tasks having to do with the ummm plan or well, what exactly do you call it anyway? Scamdemic or something cute? Point being, there's so many places and directions from which whistle-blowers bearing troves of evidence should be leaking through that the sheer volume of it would cause Edward Snowden and Julian Assange to blush.

Yes, that is what they think - a worldwide conspiracy involving virtually all health care workers, gov and media to mislead us about Covid and vaccinations for "reasons".

Those of us who watch and read the news get it shoved in our face.

It is, if you're a simpleton. And we got a whole lot of those.

Ahhh.... So you believe it's a conspiracy and the USDOH is in on it and lying.

At no point did i say they were part of the military, i explain how the government uses the coast guard activities to boast our military expenditures up to meet the 2 % mark, They the liberal government says those activities are military in nature so they can discount how much they spend on our military... I did not say that the liberals said that the guys you support... I did say they are part of our nations Security apparatus, CG, RCMP, Border services, immigration, CSIS, DND. argue your point with the liberal government...

The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys

It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys

Wrong... Age, comorbidities, BMI etc are much more of a factor... A twenty five year old unvaxxed is at less risk than an 80 year old vaxxed

Something going unnoticed is almost all of the unvaccinated that do get sick now come out of it and now they're walking around with natural immunity which is soooo much better than anything the clot shot therapeutic is offering. The vaccinated need to check out the hashtag # Died Suddenly.

That's what you want. Stop projecting. As Ari said, Ukrainian suffering ends when the Russians leave their country and stop shooting at them. If you weren't getting your news from Iran and other such brilliant sources, you'd have better perspective on the whole situation.

You know that Colonel Klink from California is going to run, (and he is arguably the WORST governor in the history of that cursed state.) Probably Kamala the Ugandan Giant. I wouldn't put it past Beatoff ORourk to run again.

You are correct. The people in the large vaccinated circle were not at risk of serious illness… because they were vaccinated.

The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part confuses you?

Yes sir.. and have a Master's as well. I survived the indoctrination camps!!!

Well, the Michelle as Mike meme is kind of funny. Good for a smile anyway. Especially when you consider the context of where it comes from. Ever hear the urban legend of gay Barry hanging around in Chicago steam rooms and such. I don't take all that stuff seriously but the sheer brazen invention of it does make me smile. You know, kind of like those arguments you have with yourself. They make me smile too. Your most current one where I'm encouraging people to change their votes over this stuff you imagine I'm saying about the Michelle as Mike meme gave me a chuckle. I thought you said she won't run. So why do you now seem to be worried I might influence somebody vote against her?

He/She got in via affirmative action most likely

YOU mentioned "Mike." AND Fox which was a purveyor of the FALSE reference to Michael Obama. You are entirely disingenuous, as usual. So despite your reference to Fox you expect us to believe you didn't hear that there? LMAO No, I don't believe she will run. Next time you want a discussion, don't start your thread with a very INSULTING "meme." ?

And you know you could put a stop to this, but you don't. Why is that exactly?

So are posts like this. You know how much time and attention I pay to black history month? None.

All those people you despise are better humans than Nazis. And you are a Nazi. A person who denies the Holocaust or who says Hitler didn’t cause it is a NAZI. Enjoy the label. You have chosen evil.

A few points: 1. FoxNews is the most reliable news source on the planet. People who do not watch it (or visit the website) are not as informed as those who do. And referring to USA as a fact check is just imbecilic. USA is just another left wing opinion rag. 2. I thought it was pretty tacky the way some conservatives went after Moochelle, questioning her sexuality. She's just a First Lady. Yeah, she ran her mouth four eight years as if she were important, but ALL First Ladies have that opportunity, although it's fair to note that Laura Bush and Nancy Reagan were very classy First Ladies who stayed out of the spotlight. 3. Kinda hard to imagine Moochelle running for public office. She's not as well educated as Hillary and she doesn't appear to have the burning ambition for public life, outside of left wing media fawning over her wardrobe and appearance. In some ways, we're lucky that she'll just fade into obscurity, spending all those tax dollars at Martha's Vineyard, while campaigning valiantly to keep the colored folk from Central America out.

When Michael first suggested he was a conservative, I reminded him of that link about human caused climate change, which pretty much revokes his secret conservative decoder ring. Since then, he continually calls me a troll. Some people are so childish.

No, you can't prove any such thing. The data strictly and explicitly contradicts your claim. Vaccinated individuals are hospitalized at dramatically lower rates and die at dramatically lower rates. You can't hand-wave away that data by pointing to the total deaths, as if that is some meaningful measure of efficacy. If the vaccine weren't saving those lives the total deaths would be higher still And yes, I think that most people, aside from you, do know what a vaccine is. Remember how much time you spent pretending the flu vaccine isn't a vaccine? Didn't learn from that apparently. Your version of "statistics" is *exactly* like claiming that seatbelts don't prevent deaths because more people die in traffic accidents every single year. To make that kind of crazy claim you have to deliberately blind yourself to the lives that are being saved on a per-incident basis. The only reason anyone would ignore the demonstrable efficacy is because it's inconvenient to the political points you're promoting. There are people out there wondering if they should take the vaccine. If they took it, they'd be about 5x less likely to die if infected with COVID. Obviously a huge advantage, but you tell them not to do it because of some useless total death number. Your misinformation is lethal.

You can talk all you want, but you're glorifying the data of people who told us that "the jab prevents infection", and "you don't have to worry about covid if you're jabbed". They're the people who told us that the jab is safe, and that's a huge lie. They told us that kids need the jab, that's also a huge lie. Those guys lost their place at the adult table a long time ago by virtue of the fact that they are known to be liars. Furthermore, their theories don't make room for a world where covid deaths are higher after the vax rollout than they were before, especially when 86% of covid deaths are among the vaxed. Have healthier people started dying of covid now? No, they have not. Healthy people die of "dying suddenly" (after vaxing). FYI if the vax was highly successful, or even successful, then vaxing 85% of the population would have resulted in a decrease in covid deaths. Ask any epidemiologist or virologist: "What would happen to the weekly covid death toll if we vaxed 85% of the population?" They all know the answer, and it would not be: "Deaths would go up." Then say: "If deaths did go up, what percent of the deaths do you think would be from the unvaccinated? Would it just be equal to their percentage of the population?" They'd say: "Most of the deaths would be among the unvaccinated." And don't forget, the threshold for "success" isn't a slight reduction in negative outcomes. That's because the reason for force-vaxing healthy young people and vaxing children is to prevent the spread. We went full vax-fascist here because the vax was supposed to stop the spread (or at least slow it). The fact that so many vaxed people are getting covid, and getting it bad enough to die from it, proves conclusively that the vax absolutely does not slow the spread. And if the jab isn't slowing the spread, then why should people who don't need it, take it? Van mandates were a full fascist flop. Period. And it's not unreasonable to think that the jab caused Pressly's death, this thread is stupid. I'll be replying to your comments, should there be any, in a more aptly named thread.

BS. Your dad was a SARtech. You're a barista with a man-bun who only works about 25 hrs/week.

Lol...well Sally, that political hack just put pecilneck in his place. Out to pasture.

And many here thought your head was up Justin's . . . . . oh well, carry on.

While I can't deny the impulse to think that people too stupid to vax are also too stupid to test, this is observably and obviously false. Otherwise we wouldn't have data on outcomes among the unvaxxed. And it doesn't change the fact that all things being equal, vaccinated people with COVID are many times less likely to be hospitalized and many times less likely to die than unvaccinated people with COVID.

Should've hired Mr John A. White, eh? Maybe Andrew "Dice" Clay as Minister of Women's affairs? Hell that's as bad as Trudeau appointing an actual environmentalist to head the Ministry of the Environment instead of a retired Oil Sands exec, right? Oh wait, anything logical is lefty lunacy these days. Guess I'll have to join you and stick my own head up my ass so far I can't hear myself screaming denials.

True enough. I guess we need a West coast navy to stop Columbian drug cartels from smuggling all that marijuana into BC?

My God you're an embarrassment to the military @ExFlyer I really wish you'd change your username to TorontoStarChild or TrudeauLuv, something that makes more sense. I can guarantee that 95% of military people hate you anyways. TBH, I think that you're probably the son or daughter of someone who served, and your backstory is their life because you live in a basement somewhere.

You lost any credibility when you fell into this sort of hysterical nonsense. You seem to think this sort of over-emotional hyperbole is convincing. "Trudeau sounds like HITLER" "CBC is FILTH" "The leftwing LOOONS" etc etc...I've no doubt you think this is compelling communication. What the rest of us are seeing is this: Go get a job.

I've posted this stuff nicely a million times here. 100% of my replies from non-conservatives are made up of 49% sandbox insults and 51% false Faucian narratives. Thanks for looking at it.

The temporary COVID measures are gone. Just like everyone, other than hysterical conspiracy nuts, said they’d be. No one is allowed to set up camp and shut down a city…. do you think protestors in the USA have freedom to shut down cities? He says dumb things all the time.

Well I've been arguing in favor of nuclear for 10+ years, rather than wasting our money on inefficient wind/solar tech that cannot be stored or scaled at today's tech levels. One problem with this particular part of the debate, however, is that it's mostly a provincial issue.

We should feel awful for the Ukrainian soldiers that are been thrown into that meat grinder for nothing but for the military industrial complex to make billions. What's amazing about this tank situation is that some people actually think 15 bloody tanks are going to make any difference. It's just that Ukrainians don't even know how to drive or service them!

Eh, I think you're focused on the wrong thing here. The real observation and question is why do so many spiteful a-holes also describe themselves as patriots? ETA: I'm just gonna skip ahead to the answer. It's because they see America as a place for straight, white men (and occasionally properly subservient women) and anything outside of that paradigm is unAmerican. They are the original embodiment identity politics and they are so goddamn fragile they need to lash out even at simple candy mascots if the roster includes more women or an anxious guy, or whatever. Some conservatives are just that afraid of change.

Exactly, why would you care? So why the stupid question?

You actually found an insult that you won’t use? Well, aren’t you just the most reasonable fellow?