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I don't believe conspiracy theories. I believe the science. I've been following the science since this began and it hasn't been wrong. Not once. For instance, right from the beginning - the science said these jabs would not stop transmission. Conspiracy theorists said they would. The science said these jabs would not be safe. Conspiracy theorists said they were 100% safe. That was straight from Albert Bourla's mouth - CEO of Pfizer. I posted his tweet saying it. The science said vaccinated people would experience waning immunity very quickly. Conspiracy theorists said, 2 jabs and you're good. No, wait - 3 jabs. Oooopsy-doodle, we meant 4. Okay, 5. Probably more. Like for the rest of your life. The science said vaccinated people would experience recurring bouts of covid because the jabs are leaky and non-sterilizing. Conspiracy theorists said if you got jabbed, "The virus STOPS at you." The science said the jabs would cause heart attacks and myocarditis. Conspiracy theorists try to cover up the heart attacks and myocarditis. The science said healthy children had no risk of covid. Conspiracy theorists said children need to get jabbed. The science said the elderly and obese were at risk. Conspiracy theorists said we were ALL at grave risk. The science said lockdowns would be ineffective and ruin lives. Conspiracy theorists said lockdowns were great. The science said masks were ineffective and would ruin children's development and education. Conspiracy theorists said masks would have no effect on children. I also believe in common sense. Common sense tells me to question an experimental medical procedure, using a method that had not been perfected, manufactured by companies with billion dollar fines for medical fraud and forced on everyone by holding their careers and livelihoods and civil liberties hostage. Maybe if you trusted in science more, you wouldn't have followed the conspiracy theorists.

I attached the rolling "death by vaccination status" stats from Aug and Sept of 2022 to this post. If you compare the totals from the 2 months, you can see that there were 1,082 new covid deaths, and only 155 of them were among the unvaccinated. That's 14.3%. The % of covid deaths among the unvaxed is basically identical to the % of unvaccinated Canadians who are unvaxed. The Aug and Sept charts are attached, plus a Sept Chart with the Aug numbers on it, and the accompanying math to show where the 14.3% stat from. I also attached the timeline of all the covid deaths in Canada, plus a color-coded one to help people compare the number of deaths in the summer seasons and flu seasons of the 3 years we've had covid around. The small light-blue boxes show how many covid deaths occurred during the original outbreak year, and in the 2021 summer which started out with zero dbl-vxed and ended with 50% dbl-vaxed Canadians, and the 2022 summer season when 85% of us were either dbl-, triple-, or quadruple-vaxed. You can clearly see that summer of 2022 had the most covid deaths, by far. If the jab was actually a vaccine that would not be the case, at all. The light pink areas are to highlight the flu seasons. Data for the fall of 2022 isn't in yet, so I blanked out that area of the chart in each year. You can clearly see that the number of covid deaths didn't go down in 2022, despite forcing millions of Canadians to vaccinate. In short, 85% of our deaths now are coming from the multi-vaxed, which makes it seems as though it's not really working all that well. The overall number of deaths hasn't decreased either, it has actually gone up quite a bit, which is the main indicator of whether or not the vax campaign was a success. Regardless of what anyone says, these numbers absolutely prove that forcing people to take the jabs was unsuccessful, and discriminating against the unvaxed didn't save a single life. Vax-Naziism was always unjustified, now we know it was an abysmal failure.

We should really quit the climate change conferences. The third world is demanding billions of dollars compensation from the western developed nations such as Canada because they blame us for the climate. Canada is falling for it, admitting it's our fault, and committing hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money to the third world to fight or compensate for climate change. These climate change conferences are nothing but a scam of the west and an arm of the U.N. We should withdraw from the Marxist U.N. and save Canadians from this extortion.

You mean the same backwards dictatorships and 3 rd world crap holes who handed NATO politicians their asses in the last conflict, ya those guys. Dressing up in drag in a lot of Muslim countries will get you stoned dead... Justin brings whatever baggage he has everywhere he goes. And your right they really don't give a S*** what we think, because our international reputation is licking boots it is what we are good at, and maybe it is just these things that have attributed to all that reputation. For you it is no big deal but overseas these things do play a part in how your perceived and how other deal with you. Don't tell me you have never judged someone by what they have done or didn't do i mean you and i have made judgements here on this forum without even meeting these people, why do you think politicians are different. Perhaps my opinion is out of date as you suggest, but in my line of work i have had to deal with all kinds of people on domestic operations such as floods, ice storms, Olympic security, not all of them were happy, and also in foreign countries that were either hostile or friendly, all took some diplomatic skills to handle, it was not all shoot them and carry on. So yes, everything you have done, or did, how you dress, your physical demeaner, how you behave, what your body language is like, all plays a role on how any interaction is going to play out. Would you say Justins good hair and socks played a role in gaining women's votes. Thats what the media is saying. So, I'll ask again what benefit Justin is going to get out of this interaction, and what are the negatives, even here in Canada there is going to be a negative factor to this, not all agree with this choice. Putins fall from grace is more due to his militaries senior's commanders, corruption, incompetence, that have fooled everyone across the globe into thinking the Russian war machine was this huge bear waiting to maul anything it came into contact with. funding for equipment and training have been funneled somewhere else. Made crystal clear in Ukraine, special troops like airborne, airmobile, had very little training past the basics and resulted in most of these units being wiped out in a few days after the invasion. Life means nothing in the Russian military, money and corruption run everything, they don't even collect their dead, and in some cases shot the wounded, or leave them to die ... Putin is one of the last of the old school, don't underestimate the man, nuking the world is always an option, he knows the cost of failure being taken out into the woods and shoot in the back of the head.

And this to me is a problem bigger than the pandemic itself ! The wrongs this country and government committed against its citizens - putting them against one another, discriminating against them, limiting their freedoms, freezing up their bank accounts, arresting them, putting them out on the street, starving them by refusing them EI benefits! We have to go after them, so this type of thing never happens again!

Canada’s emissions are set to rise as millions of new residents continue to come. Carbon taxes are just a feel good advertisement from the government elites who aren’t impacted by the resultant higher cost of living.

There's nothing conspiratorial about basic arithmetic, TreeBeard. You're just knocking down chess pieces and shitting on the board again. If you think my math is off somewhere then surely you're smart enough to catch it. If it's not then maybe it's time to think about what the simple math tells you. The death statistics from an entire country of 38M people are worth more than the educated guesses of a billion epidemiologists. Stop just quoting them ffs, and start asking them some pointed questions, like: "Why aren't weekly death totals down after we gave 85% of the population a vaccine that theoretically decreases their chance of a negative outcome by 80%? Shouldn't weekly deaths be down to approximately 32% of what they were before?". Trust me on that: they should be down to 32% of what they were, not "equal". Equal is for tinfoil hats. Hopefully we didn't force people out of their jobs just for refusing to wear tinfoil hats with serious side-effects.

Except for all the times you misquoted or misinterpreted the data, elevated the odd dissenter (or outright charlatan) to the eminent authority on vaccine science and completely disregarded everything the greater scientific and medical community at large said in favor of "DoInG yoUR oWN REsEArcH" at home on your laptop. ?

And how much of that money is going to be used to fight climate change except in the sense of filling Swiss bank accounts so the leaders of those countries can go north to a cooler climate when the weather gets too hot?

Retired general's speech slamming Canada's climate change policies, cancel culture and weak leaders applauded by officers Ret. Lt.-Gen. Michel Maisonneuvee made his speech as he accepted the Vimy Award, which honoured him for his life-long contributions in defence, at an Ottawa gala Serving senior Canadian military officers gave a standing ovation to a speech by a retired general who criticized everything from the removal of historical statues and apologies to victims to government climate change policies. Retired Lt.-Gen. Michel Maisonneuve, accepting a top defence award Nov. 9 in Ottawa, also took a swipe at leaders who he claimed divide rather than unite. While not specifically naming Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or Hillary Clinton, Maisonneuve said “can you imagine a military leader labelling half of his command as deplorables, fringe radicals and less-thans and then expect them to fight as one?” https://nationalpost.com/news/national/defence-watch/speech-slamming-canadas-climate-change-policies-cancel-culture-and-weak-leaders-applauded-by-canadian-forces-officers/wcm/f9ff4f6a-2ac8-4efd-b828-cd186ecad1bd

Liar. You're not interested in helping people at all. You're sitting on information that could save millions of lives and billions of dollars yet you refuse to put that information into the hands of people who could use it to make a difference. You're a sociopath.

Put any dictator there. Hitler, Putin, blah over centuries and millennia some of us will never learn

Remember that time "no symptoms" was listed as a symptom, and people believed they were sick with no symptoms? That was the funniest. My other favourite was "sock lines" around your ankles cause heart attacks. Not the vaccine, though. Sock lines. ?

While the brainwashed puppets are all going on about the need to give vaccine to little kids, several countries including the UK have cancelled giving the vaccine to children. Read 'em and weep. https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/major-nation-bans-covid-vaccine-for-children-under-12/ https://fee.org/articles/england-refuses-to-offer-covid-shots-to-kids-under-12-while-us-cities-mandate-them-who-s-right/ https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-09-sweden-covid-jabs-teenagers.html

“The vast majority of people injured or killed in motor vehicle accidents are NOT drunk drivers, therefore there’s no evidence that drunk driving is dangerous. IT’S ALL JUST A BIG CONSPIRACYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!”

Neat…. More COVID conspiracies. Leave it to @Goddess…. You’re not as good at it.

They are Also fine with denying someone an organ transplant over a vaccine

1) that’s only 2 people 2) McConnell raises funds for Democrats? Got a link? 3) Even if the above claims are true they’re the exception rather than the rule. For over a decade the Republicans have been extreme toxic partisans, openly denouncing even the basic concept of bipartisanship and voting against measures they previously supported simply because a Dem is currently proposing it. Over a decade ago McConnell and Republican speaker John Boehner held a public joint press conference announcing they refuse to cooperate with the Obama administration on any issue and stated that the sole reason for that was to help ensure Obama would be a 1-term president.

Without Trump, there is no Republican Party. They have no other figures as powerful with as strong a message. And with another Democrat, there won't be an America. This place will be Venezuela with a multi trillion dollar national debt. What America should be saying to Republicans is GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND PUSH THE MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN THEME AND QUIT TRYING TO BE FRIENDS WITH THE DEMONAZIS. Trump is the best president of the 21st Century. He belongs in that office. Get over yourselves, Romneys.

This is what happens when debating conspiracy nuts…. Everything turns to the conspiracies. It reminds me of the anecdote of playing chess with a pigeon…. It flaps its wings, knocks the pieces all over the place, shits on the board and then struts around as if it won the game.

I like the power and concision of a good meme.

As Jimmy might say: "Look at all those Ukrainians trying to hail a cab at a soccer match."

You might enjoy this...funny...at times.

I thought it was a good question. I mean...you do appear to be inclined towards communism...

Interesting. Thanks for the update. I know that Dr. Suzuki has advocated for lower immigration for the reasons you have laid out.

If you read them then you’ll know I was probably more of a green activist than anyone on here. I lobbied governments and published articles, wrote the first Greenbelt Boundary Proposal for the GTA, and I have the letters and newspaper clippings to prove it, including from a number of MP’s, MPP’s, commissioners, mayors, and bureaucrats. I’ve invested in solar and know a bit about alternative energy sources. What I’ve learned is that green energy in its current form produces small amounts of energy, but there are great opportunities for integrating them into our building code for heating, cooling, and energy production (deep water cooling, geothermal, solar roof systems, slow poke mini reactors, etc.). There are also ways to build smart communities that are more walkable and transit viable. Victorian mill towns did this better than we do with their multiple train connections and complete communities (Saltaire is a great example). Hydro is great but there are environmental impacts with concrete production (which produces emissions) and on ecosystems. Same goes for nuclear. Yet we need large generating stations to have a viable manufacturing and energy sector. In fact this is about national security. You can’t completely avoid emissions and environmental impacts. Subways and trains lower emissions in the long term but require tremendous concrete production up front. The same goes for food production. Blunt instruments like making farmers lower production and inflicting carbon taxes on the supply chain drives up food prices. Carbon taxes drive up the costs of goods full stop. That causes more poverty and less education. Guess what? People who are less educated generally have bigger families (carbon footprints). My role is to point out the hypocrisy of our small minded and economically damaging climate policies. All of our “climate action” will be overshadowed by high immigration, which is what our current government relies on to grow the economy. The Liberals also like to make recent immigrants feel beholden to them and stoke fear about political opponents. They try to win votes because their true motivation is self-preservation, not ending climate change or ending racial inequality. The woke-green rhetoric is “Look I’m a good person” BS. Much of it is overblown Marxist drivel that, if fully enacted, would drive our meritocracy and industry into the ground. The cost of living is already punishingly high. Home prices can’t come down much with demand continuing to rise under current immigration plans. I won’t even get into the healthcare discussion. If you actually want a prosperous and free society, don’t support policies that undermine both. This country has been going downhill since the Liberals took office, especially since their last mandate. They aren’t even liberal. It’s radical leftist amateur hour.

You do? And your wife puts up with it? Strong woman you've got there.

Lots of people have suggested doing nothing about climate change and accepting the result. I guess we're learning about the kinds of people who p*** on the toilet seat on this thread....

2022 (at 85% vaxed) is a pretty bad year according to your chart. Our initial exposure to C19 in 2020 was the only other thing that stands out.

There’s no liability for a crime that didn’t exist, or are we doing retroactive crime again, persecuting people for doing things that weren’t considered crimes when they did them? Honestly the arrogance. Michael take your pickpockets with you to a colony of activist dupes so you can shake each other down for various causes that matter to you. I mean no one will actually produce anything there or have any money, but there are precedents for cannibalism.

What information am I supposedly withholding eyeball? Weekly Covid deaths never changed at all after we vaccinated 85% of our population, and the vaxed crowd have the exact share of deaths that their percentage of the population would expect if they all took HCQ or ivermectin (assuming that those cheap, off-patent drugs do nothing). Just pretend it's a Trump vax, and Trump was out ballyhooing about the yuuge success of it: Trump: "I'm telling you eyeball, that covid deaths are way down since we got the beeeautiful vaccine. Look how the weekly death total charts just plummeted after the rollout! They may look identical in 2022, or even a bit higher, but that's an optical illusion that people experience when they need another booster. There's nothing like this vaccine I tell you. Some people say it's the most beautiful vaccine ever. They can't even believe how shiny the bottle is. You couldn't put a cheap vaccine in that shiny bottle, it would look really really bad. So now only 85% of the covid deaths are among the vaccinated. That means that 15% of the covid deaths are coming from the rest of the population, when they only make up 15% of the population. You do the math. It's beautiful and it's yuuuge. The vaccine is a yuuuge success and I think that covid is over now, because of the beautiful vacciiiiine and its massive success. vak SEEEEN! Sounds so beautiful. Enjoy, eyeball, I still love you even though you think I'm a bloated, crass, misogynistic, racist imbecile with no friends." And just remember, my whole point isn't to say that "the vaccines are useless". Maybe there's some evidence out there that I'm not seeing that shows a benefit. Maybe they do help. All I'm saying is: "THERE'S DEFINITELY NOT THE KIND OF SUCCESS HERE THAT JUSTIFIES FORCING PEOPLE TO TAKE THE JAB IF THEY DON'T WANT IT!" There's also not enough evidence to say that the puny side-effects, like myocarditis and changes to the female reproductive system, are trivial by comparison. You can believe for yourself and for your family and that's your right. But telling me that "IT'S WORKING AND WHEN PEOPLE DON'T TAKE IT THEY PUT THE REST OF US AT RISK!" is like pissing in my face and telling me it's raining.

I can use the stats for this entire country to account for age, because the total number of weekly covid deaths hasn't gone down at all since we vaccinated the vast majority of our elderly. The avg age of covid deaths wasn't forced down either when we protected the elderly with what you call a 'vax'. Deaths among 70+ were at 82.5% on Dec 10 2021 and they're at 82.2% now. "Protecting the elderly" never happened. If protecting the elderly with the vax had forced the average age of deaths down, or if the % of deaths among the vaxed vs unvaxed was different, or if the total number of deaths per week dropped when we protected our most vulnerable, I'd say that they might be onto something, but none of that happened. Apparently nothing happened that wouldn't have happened if they all wore tinfoil hats instead of vaxing. Covid deaths just kept plugging along, absolutely as normal, our media just stopped reporting on the deaths and started reporting on the success of the vaccines. Do you feel like the media acts like the vaccines were performing extremely well? Can you find a death chart somewhere that shows the vaccines performing extremely well? Or one that justifies forcing young people to take it? We vaccinated millions of people under 50 and by all accounts, covid deaths are up in that demographic now. There were 19 deaths among the 0-20 crown by Dec 10 2021, now there are 66. That's 19 in the first 9 months when it was a novel virus with no vax, and 47 in the next 11 months with the no-longer-novel virus and the "vaccine". I'll leave you to pick your own reasons why our media isn't reporting on the fact that deaths didn't go down at all, or the fact that 85.7% of our deaths are among the multi-vaxed, which is in lock step with their % of the population.

Are you for real? Michael please don’t be such a complete sucker. Climate change may or may not lead to a crisis. I mean it will eventually as it has in the past. A super volcano or meteor could end us a lot sooner than climate change. We don’t know the human impact on climate change. Our world population will be flattening soon and our energy technology is improving. Throwing tax money at “fighting climate change” is pissing in the wind. Giving money to developing countries to compensate them is next level stupidity on the scale of making reparations to the Loyalists for the land they left behind to in the US. PT Barnum would have a field day with this naivety. “There’s one born every minute.” This is all about leveraging power to China and Russia who have lesser climate obligations and are selling oil and infrastructure to the world, making money like bandits. What a joke. Honestly Alberta and Saskatchewan should sue the Feds over the destruction of our resource sector and energy security. Canadian citizens should vote this government out of existence for its punishing carbon taxes and government overreach.

It depends whether you are one of the suckers that believe in man-made climate change, which you are. You would give Canadians hard-earned money away to the rest of the world to fight against the climate. Maybe write your own cheques and leave the rest of us alone.

I gotta admit, you've perfected "strutting like a pigeon" instead of addressing facts. Meanwhile, I'll just reflect on 2019, when we could all afford to drive our cars, pay our mortgages, heat our houses, buy groceries and stuff like that... Oh, and before fascism. I guess that's a big one.

Anybody not 100% behind NATO's efforts to start WW3 would fall into that group, I'd imagine.

Wait a minute. Numbers don't lie. I remember a time, not so long ago, when you were howling, "believe the science!". Well...science has determined that the jab was incapable of stopping The Rona from spreading and that it is not an effective vaccine. In fact, scientific examination is now showing the jab does more harm than good. With that in mind, I'd like to impart my personal experience for you to ponder. I have always had a very reliable immune system. I don't remember ever having the flu and I generally 'might' get a case of the sniffles, but it never causes me any more than a day or two of discomfort. But I was told, if I didn't get jabbed...twice...I would not be allowed to return to the office. My wife and kids were all in the same predicament. So...we all got double-jabbed. Last September, I came down with a nasty chest cold. Odd, but OK...a chest cold. The thing is, I still have it. And what's worse, I gave it to one of my sons, my daughter and her boyfriend and my wife. It wanes and then returns and wanes and returns...but doesn't seem to completely go away. This is very strange for me and my family. My prognosis? Something has weakened our immune systems such that a generally insignificant chest cold, is now difficult for our immune systems to fight off completely. Gee...I wonder what that could have been. I will not take any more of that death sirum. Nor will my family. I expect it'll take a few years for our immune systems to return to normal. That's my hope, anyway. In the meantime... I'd sort o' like to lay my mudhooks on the POS who arranged this little vaccination death-dance. Oh and as for Dr. Fauci...and that insufferable Dr. Tam... You two might be well advised to ride off into the sunset...right about... NOW!

George W Bush, 2001-2008 Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr, 1980-1992 (instead of Drones, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Latin American drug cartels and paramilitary death squads) George W Bush George W Bush Putin is responsible, with Trump/MAGA appeasement and open encouragement Also are you going to pretend that Bush didn’t invade Iraq for no good reason creating a decade-long war that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians including thousands of US troops and inspired terrorist attacks all around the globe and les to the creation of ISIS? Putin, China and COViD just plain false. This is where you take things people said about peaceful protests and claim they were talking about the riots, we’ve been here before and don’t need to rehash it

Pfizer, Moderna launch trials to track long term risks of vaccines (msn.com) Does it seem to anyone else that they should have done this work BEFORE forcing everyone to vaccinate multiple times?

You are barbaric.. your ilk are disgusting

Lol.. you are a joke.. less than 1% of people who get covid die of covid but yes let's make a dumb argument like the one you just made

Is God going to increase or decrease the price of gas? We need to know.

I find memes really lazy.

Kinda hard to get a red wave in states that do not enforce election laws. Fetterman the retard already had the illegal votes before the debate.

And I say whenever these playboy politicians use their emergency powers flippantly it has serious consequences. It weakens our democracy. Those who weaken our democracy should be ostracized and called traitors. Ok, so that's a little dramatic and not gonna happen. But it still should. Better yet, we need to raise the bar on implementing emergency powers. We don't want some prettyboy who got in power to use them every time they get an anxiety attack.

Haven't you guys learned that this government is all about the look, the style, the promise, and not so much on the actual doing? The doing isn't necessary if you mouth the right words and look concerned or stern, or whatever it is you've practiced in the mirror. Especially given what a complacent press we have.

Oh, I agree that every state (including Florida) has a certain number of stupid people. We just don't have as many as blue states, and our voting proves that. Only a total MORE ON voted for Stroke Fetterman over a DOCTOR.

"Your honour, I can't make my case without using these words" Ricky to the Judge, Trailer Park Boys

You have landed a good point here, as most of the planet are materially better off. However I do want to point out that Thatcher and real conservatives like Nixon have always been more concerned about the environment than the new populist types.