WestCanMan Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 Leftists are increasingly more and more against the US Gov't, against police, against ICE, against funding the DHS, against the current war, parroting Iranian propaganda, calling the war "illegal", and robo is even calling the US Gov't terrorists now. Robo's not even a fringe leftie - he's basically a mainstream guy from that side - so he's a fairly accurate barometer of the modern left4rd zeitgeist. Now, it's hard to tell if the robo-cult are taking the ayatollah's side because they hate Trump, or if they just don't see the ayatollah's regime as bad people. One thing's for certain though, the assertion that "Iran didn't pose an imminent threat to the US" is false because: they attacked hundreds of US bases in the ME while Biden was behind the Recumbent Desk they were amassing an enormous stockpile of better and better drones and missiles all the time we've seen even their current tech-lvl missiles break through US and Israeli defences now the cost between "Iran making cheap flying bombs" and "the US/Israel making detection and interception systems" capable take them out mid-flight puts Iran ahead by millions of dollars per interception. How far are they from making their missiles harder to detect, after the rockets are done? And from making missiles with enough range to hit the US using technology that they got from NoKo? And from building nukes? Can anyone really guarantee that they're not able to make them, or that NoKo or Pakistan wouldn't just give them nukes? Fact: Iranian proxies attacked US bases in the ME hundreds of times while Biden was president, and Biden didn't do anything in retaliation. So, from Trump's POV, if he did nothing now, and the friend of the ayatollah in the DNC won the next election or two, Iran could have been growing the nuclear program, upgrading their missile technology, and building drones until 2033 or 2037 without any interruptions. Just think about the capability that Iran has now, and what they could amass between now and 2033 or 2037, after one or two ayatollah-friendly Dem presidencies... Trump's decision to attack Iran was perfect. It is one of the smartest things that Trump ever did as president, and he has had a LOT of success as president. Anyways, my questions for lefties are: are you favouring the US or Iran right now? Is it like 100-0, 40-60, etc...? do you agree with robo, that the Americans are the terrorists now? for the ones that favour Iran: are you cheering for substantial American casualties, or just economic hardship and an overall loss, where the ayatollah's regime carries on and the US loses face? for the ones that favour America: are you hoping to see regime change, or just squeaking out a bare-bones win, where the ayatollah's regime carries on and Iranian citizens continue to live in a modern-day dark age? We are really at a time where we don't know which side most leftists are on, and clearly some are on the other side now. Can you tell us what "the best-case scenario" looks like, after this military phase has ended? I will answer for myself right now, but I don't speak for all conservatives: I want a total win for the US and for the Iranian people. Regime change, the whole works. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nationalist Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 We would like to see the same result but...I dont think the reasoning we've been fed is...the entire truth...or accurate. People tend to belittle the BRICS pact. I would suggest BRICS be taken very seriously. I would also suggest that disrupting BRICS is one important goal for the US. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: I want a total win for the US and for the Iranian people. Regime change, the whole works. So last time there was a "total win" for the CIA's regime change, they installed the corrupt and brutal Shah who was overthrown by popular revolution in 1979, and the Ayatollahs' took CONTROL. What you want NOW, is what led to the current regime. Duh Quote
User Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 13 minutes ago, robosmith said: So last time there was a "total win" for the CIA's regime change, they installed the corrupt and brutal Shah who was overthrown by popular revolution in 1979, and the Ayatollahs' took CONTROL. What you want NOW, is what led to the current regime. Duh So... you think the current regime which is even more corrupt and brutal than the Shah is better? Quote
Legato Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 41 minutes ago, robosmith said: So last time there was a "total win" for the CIA's regime change, they installed the corrupt and brutal Shah who was overthrown by popular revolution in 1979, and the Ayatollahs' took CONTROL. What you want NOW, is what led to the current regime. Duh 1 Quote
herbie Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 Leftist Support for the Ayatollah Some people let their imagination overwhelm their brain. Or they too stupid to know they're politically ignorant. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Legato said: ^Stupid memes = intellectual bankruptcy. Quote
ironstone Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 Leftist are a strange bunch. They are usually hard-core when it comes to forcing their 'values' on us, but they become quite meek when Islam enters into the conversation. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Leftists are increasingly more and more against the US Gov't, against police, against ICE, against funding the DHS, against the current war, parroting Iranian propaganda, calling the war "illegal", and robo is even calling the US Gov't terrorists now. Robo's not even a fringe leftie - he's basically a mainstream guy from that side - so he's a fairly accurate barometer of the modern left4rd zeitgeist. Now, it's hard to tell if the robo-cult are taking the ayatollah's side because they hate Trump, or if they just don't see the ayatollah's regime as bad people. One thing's for certain though, the assertion that "Iran didn't pose an imminent threat to the US" is false because: they attacked hundreds of US bases in the ME while Biden was behind the Recumbent Desk they were amassing an enormous stockpile of better and better drones and missiles all the time we've seen even their current tech-lvl missiles break through US and Israeli defences now the cost between "Iran making cheap flying bombs" and "the US/Israel making detection and interception systems" capable take them out mid-flight puts Iran ahead by millions of dollars per interception. How far are they from making their missiles harder to detect, after the rockets are done? And from making missiles with enough range to hit the US using technology that they got from NoKo? And from building nukes? Can anyone really guarantee that they're not able to make them, or that NoKo or Pakistan wouldn't just give them nukes? Fact: Iranian proxies attacked US bases in the ME hundreds of times while Biden was president, and Biden didn't do anything in retaliation. So, from Trump's POV, if he did nothing now, and the friend of the ayatollah in the DNC won the next election or two, Iran could have been growing the nuclear program, upgrading their missile technology, and building drones until 2033 or 2037 without any interruptions. Just think about the capability that Iran has now, and what they could amass between now and 2033 or 2037, after one or two ayatollah-friendly Dem presidencies... Trump's decision to attack Iran was perfect. It is one of the smartest things that Trump ever did as president, and he has had a LOT of success as president. Anyways, my questions for lefties are: are you favouring the US or Iran right now? Is it like 100-0, 40-60, etc...? do you agree with robo, that the Americans are the terrorists now? for the ones that favour Iran: are you cheering for substantial American casualties, or just economic hardship and an overall loss, where the ayatollah's regime carries on and the US loses face? for the ones that favour America: are you hoping to see regime change, or just squeaking out a bare-bones win, where the ayatollah's regime carries on and Iranian citizens continue to live in a modern-day dark age? We are really at a time where we don't know which side most leftists are on, and clearly some are on the other side now. Can you tell us what "the best-case scenario" looks like, after this military phase has ended? I will answer for myself right now, but I don't speak for all conservatives: I want a total win for the US and for the Iranian people. Regime change, the whole works. I don't think they know what they're for or against. I think that they base their ideology and their personal identity on hatred and bigotry. Trump is bad. We hate trump. We hate people who like trump. Trump is mean to the Ayatollah. Therefore we like the Ayatollah and we hate what trump is doing. I don't think the algorithm gets any more complex than that for them Look at eyeball, he spent like a year insisting that anyone who was serious about solving the middle east problems would take out Iran because they were the source of all of the problems and funding. Now that trump is actually doing that he's big mad that it's happening and doesn't want to even admit he suggested it in the first place 🤣🤣🤣🤣 1 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Venandi Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) 38 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I don't think they know what they're for or against. I think that they base their ideology and their personal identity on hatred and bigotry. Agreed. I see it as a lack of exposure and experience in the region. Few who have spent time there , lived there in fear, or served in a myriad of missions in the region are aligned with progressive ideology... I happen to know lots of them, and I don't know any who are. One of the things that grieves me a bit is that the voices of moderate, reasonable refugees from these areas goes unheard and unheeded. Their lived experience should be thoughtfully considered, but by and large that experience is ignored. You would think that with the current focus on immigration that wouldn't be the case, but perversely, we see police officers delivering coffee to some of the worst, most polarized and potentially violent critters imaginable... and progressive voices are united in support of it. There's also a curious preoccupation with history in play, I don't discount the lessons of history but we still have to deal with the here and now. These are the sort of "after the fact" observations that only a time machine can correct... and they have no clue (as do any of us) how those time travel modifications might have played out once unintended consequences played their part. 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Trump's decision to attack Iran was perfect. It is one of the smartest things that Trump ever did as president I'm not a huge Trump fan but I think you're right. The timing was right, the objective was right, and the planning for this (to me) clearly started after his inauguration. Many here see it as a knee-jerk reaction and it wasn't. I find the idea that the administration "forgot" about the strategic implications of the Straits of Hormuz an enjoyable diversion over morning coffee... at first I thought it was joke. Only after I determined it wasn't did it actually become one. Edited March 13 by Venandi 1 Quote
West Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 The Ayatolla ordered the murder of 50,000 people who openly protested their regime. And Democrats believe that hes the victim here. Pathetic Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 White liberal women are the dumbest people on earth. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Legato Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 6 hours ago, robosmith said: ^Stupid memes = intellectual bankruptcy. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: he's mad that it's happening and doesn't want to even admit he suggested it in the first place 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The removal of the search feature here is the leftists' best friend. 8 hours ago, Legato said: Stealin' it! 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, robosmith said: ^Stupid QFT Quote ^Stupid memes = intellectual bankruptcy. Says the "stupid cites spambot". Edited March 14 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Hodad Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 (edited) 12 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Leftists are increasingly more and more against the US Gov't, against police, against ICE, against funding the DHS, against the current war, parroting Iranian propaganda, calling the war "illegal", and robo is even calling the US Gov't terrorists now. Robo's not even a fringe leftie - he's basically a mainstream guy from that side - so he's a fairly accurate barometer of the modern left4rd zeitgeist. Now, it's hard to tell if the robo-cult are taking the ayatollah's side because they hate Trump, or if they just don't see the ayatollah's regime as bad people. One thing's for certain though, the assertion that "Iran didn't pose an imminent threat to the US" is false because: they attacked hundreds of US bases in the ME while Biden was behind the Recumbent Desk they were amassing an enormous stockpile of better and better drones and missiles all the time we've seen even their current tech-lvl missiles break through US and Israeli defences now the cost between "Iran making cheap flying bombs" and "the US/Israel making detection and interception systems" capable take them out mid-flight puts Iran ahead by millions of dollars per interception. How far are they from making their missiles harder to detect, after the rockets are done? And from making missiles with enough range to hit the US using technology that they got from NoKo? And from building nukes? Can anyone really guarantee that they're not able to make them, or that NoKo or Pakistan wouldn't just give them nukes? Fact: Iranian proxies attacked US bases in the ME hundreds of times while Biden was president, and Biden didn't do anything in retaliation. So, from Trump's POV, if he did nothing now, and the friend of the ayatollah in the DNC won the next election or two, Iran could have been growing the nuclear program, upgrading their missile technology, and building drones until 2033 or 2037 without any interruptions. Just think about the capability that Iran has now, and what they could amass between now and 2033 or 2037, after one or two ayatollah-friendly Dem presidencies... Trump's decision to attack Iran was perfect. It is one of the smartest things that Trump ever did as president, and he has had a LOT of success as president. Anyways, my questions for lefties are: are you favouring the US or Iran right now? Is it like 100-0, 40-60, etc...? do you agree with robo, that the Americans are the terrorists now? for the ones that favour Iran: are you cheering for substantial American casualties, or just economic hardship and an overall loss, where the ayatollah's regime carries on and the US loses face? for the ones that favour America: are you hoping to see regime change, or just squeaking out a bare-bones win, where the ayatollah's regime carries on and Iranian citizens continue to live in a modern-day dark age? We are really at a time where we don't know which side most leftists are on, and clearly some are on the other side now. Can you tell us what "the best-case scenario" looks like, after this military phase has ended? I will answer for myself right now, but I don't speak for all conservatives: I want a total win for the US and for the Iranian people. Regime change, the whole works. I'd imagine that a lot of poor cashiers and servers make the mistake of asking you "How are you today?" And get a rambling 45 minute diatribe for their trouble. Edited March 14 by Hodad 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 4 hours ago, West said: The Ayatolla ordered the murder of 50,000 people who openly protested their regime. And Democrats believe that hes the victim here. Pathetic No one else but citizen2015 here is claiming 50K died and neither of you have ANY evidence for that figure. HYPERBOLE FTL! Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 3 hours ago, Legato said: Frankly your memes are NOT dealing with reality; they're just things you wish were true. Quote
robosmith Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: QFT Says the "stupid cites spambot". Your failure to understand the complex arguments made does not make a cite stupid. LMAO Quote
Legato Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 9 hours ago, robosmith said: Frankly your memes are NOT dealing with reality; they're just things you wish were true. Women in the Middle East face a complex mix of systemic discrimination, including male guardianship laws, and ongoing, slow progress toward rights. While some countries have reformed personal status laws, many women struggle with legal inequalities in marriage, divorce, and inheritance, alongside high rates of gender-based violence and limited labor force participation. That's the reality, not your CNN reality. You just wish they were not true to bolster your TDS. Quote
West Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 https://globalnews.ca/news/11647309/iran-protests-death-toll-mounts-regime-forces/ Robo is okay with the regime shooting people. Quote
eyeball Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: Look at eyeball, he spent like a year insisting that anyone who was serious about solving the middle east problems would take out Iran because they were the source of all of the problems and funding. Now that trump is actually doing that he's big mad that it's happening and doesn't want to even admit he suggested it in the first place 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I suggested it should have been the first thing they did, not as an afterthought almost 2.5 years later. In any case if Iran has been taken out and the mission is accomplished, why is gas $2 a litre this morning? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
gatomontes99 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 54 minutes ago, eyeball said: I suggested it should have been the first thing they did, not as an afterthought almost 2.5 years later. In any case if Iran has been taken out and the mission is accomplished, why is gas $2 a litre this morning? It is not an after thought. It is a series of tactical moves that have weakened China and Russia. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 11 hours ago, Hodad said: I'd imagine that a lot of poor cashiers and servers make the mistake of asking you "How are you today?" And get a rambling 45 minute diatribe for their trouble. Why do the lefties here spend so much of their time having weird fantasies about the right and how they spend their day? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I suggested it should have been the first thing they did, Nope. Absolute lie. You went on for ages and ages about how anyone who's serious should take out iran as they're the REAL bad guy in the area. Otherwise it's just 'mowing the grass'. 1 hour ago, eyeball said: n any case if Iran has been taken out and the mission is accomplished, why is gas $2 a litre this morning? Nobody said iran had been taken out and the mission was accomplished. That would be you yet again creating a fake argument nobody made to argue against because you lost the argument we were having. Trump has said militarily they've pretty much crushed them, but nobody at all has suggested the war is over or that there isn't a lot more to do, never mind 'mission accomplished'. This is what you wanted. This is literally what you said HAD to happen if there was ever going to be peace in the area. But now that it's TRUMP doing it, the very thing you called for again and again is somehow 'bad' You're a perfect example of what i was talking about. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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