User Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: Sounds like at least one of the guns is illegal. Simple fact, it doesn't matter. If it's not guns they'll use knives if it's not yeah I'm still use a car if it's not a car they'll use fire etc etc. Worrying about the tool is the least productive and least intelligent way to address this imaginable. When somebody comes to the conclusion that they want people dead they're going to find a tool one way or another. People have been doing that since Cain and Abel Folks on the left like Beaver, never quite get around to reconciling how they think people are soooooooo dangerous they shouldn’t have access to guns, but that they should still be free to roam the streets. I mean, I guess it makes sense when all they do is care about the guns, as if stabbing people to death, running them down with a box truck, or pushing them into an oncoming train… are all just perfectly fine ways of killing people. Guns bad! Is about as fa as their ability to reason goes. 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Wonder if Juno News will report that this shooter and their family lived in a household with s gun collection despite the perp’s lengthy psychiatric history and multiple police interactions and that the shooter had once had a firearm license. At then end of the day the one thing all these shooters have in common is easy access to household guns. 1 Quote
Goddess Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: Gender dysphoria is a very serious mental health condition and it's more complicated than some people today like to think. So what happens right now is if somebody expresses feelings of gender dysphoria the medical community simply says oh no problem we'll put you in a skirt and your problems are solved, there you're a girl now. I'll give you a few shots and grab my scissors and you won't be a man anymore no problem. Unless you have kids in school, I don't think most people realize how much transgenderism is being pushed in schools. My girlfriend of 30 years has a 13 year old granddaughter and she's very concerned because trans (and experimenting with being trans) is being presented as both healthy & cool . And it's messing up her granddaughter. For the last few years she's been wondering "Am I gay? Am I bi? Am I a boy? Am I a girl?" And the schools are encouraging them to "Try it all out! It's fun!" The obsession over it all is making her, her mom and her grama crazy. Why can't kids just be kids? Why burden a 10 year old with these kinds of questions? 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: you can still work a gun pretty well wearing a skirt There's some frustration online that the public was told to be on the lookout for "a brown haired woman wearing a dress", not a man in drag. As a female, the first thing I thought was, "If I was going to heavily arm myself, kill my family, go shoot up a school and then kill myself, I wouldn't wear a dress for the event." Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 15 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Wonder if Juno News will report that this shooter and their family lived in a household with s gun collection despite the perp’s lengthy psychiatric history and multiple police interactions and that the shooter had once had a firearm license. The news is reporting that he was 17 years old. You have to be 18 in Canada to have a firearms license. Also reported that the family's guns were removed by police at some point, I'm guessing because of multiple times the police were called to the residence for mental health issues, as stated by the police. For some reason, the guns were returned. This is a policing failure and a parenting failure. The police should not have returned them and the family, who knew about the young man's mental distress, should not have taken them back or secured them properly in a gun safe. They could have requested a gun range hold them for them. How was he able to access them? Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
herbie Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Goddess said: This is a policing failure and a parenting failure. The police should not have returned them and the family, who knew about the young man's mental distress, should not have taken them back or secured them properly in a gun safe. No kidding! Knowing a mntally unstable person in the house was present, it was a bad idea. But they had to return them so there's an obvious loophole in the law that must be addressed. Nevertheless, the adults must be accountable for the kid's access to those guns. 1 Quote
User Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, herbie said: No kidding! Knowing a mntally unstable person in the house was present, it was a bad idea. But they had to return them so there's an obvious loophole in the law that must be addressed. Nevertheless, the adults must be accountable for the kid's access to those guns. Sounds like they are already accountable as they were the first to die, at least 2 family members that is. However... would it have been better if they were stabbed to death in their sleep? If you think this person was so dangerous, why was he not in a care facility? Quote
Goddess Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 A group of young people who were harmed by trans ideology asked to speak at the committee hearing on Canada's conversion therapy bill (now law). They were denied. But you can read their brief, here: DetransCanada-e.pdf 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, User said: If you think this person was so dangerous, why was he not in a care facility? What care facility? What few exist are already full. This is a legacy of 50 years or more of deinstitutionalization with little to no effort put into establishing the networks of community care that was promised would be better. I suspect now funding will be directed back towards warehousing psychiatric patients in the sort of inhumane facilities that prompted authorities to adopt deinstitutionalization in the first place. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 minute ago, eyeball said: What care facility? What few exist are already full. This is a legacy of 50 years or more of deinstitutionalization with little to no effort put into establishing the networks of community care that was promised would be better. I suspect now funding will be directed back towards warehousing psychiatric patients in the sort of inhumane facilities that prompted authorities to adopt deinstitutionalization in the first place. OMG, what police force? Who is going to confiscate the guns? How will we ever do anything?!?!?!! Go play your stupid game somewhere else. Quote
eyeball Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, User said: OMG, what police force? Who is going to confiscate the guns? How will we ever do anything?!?!?!! Go play your stupid game somewhere else. Like your non sequiturs and strawmen? Okay, what are the rules, Queensbury, bare knuckles or are Gangs of New York more to your liking? Like you people say, who needs guns...they're just not personal enough. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 4 hours ago, User said: Folks on the left like Beaver, never quite get around to reconciling how they think people are soooooooo dangerous they shouldn’t have access to guns, but that they should still be free to roam the streets. I mean, I guess it makes sense when all they do is care about the guns, as if stabbing people to death, running them down with a box truck, or pushing them into an oncoming train… are all just perfectly fine ways of killing people. Guns bad! Is about as fa as their ability to reason goes. Yup. These headlines didn't even interest him Vancouver police deal with second stabbing in past week | Vancouver Sun Teen killed and seven injured in mass stabbing in Canada There's stabbing deaths and killings with all sorts of weapons almost daily these days. But only guns matter. Fun fact, haven't checked it in a few years but gun and knife killings in Canada usually run about neck and neck. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
WestCanMan Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/11/2026 at 8:53 AM, BeaverFever said: Social media is a cesspool of fake news ^^Collusion-boy^^ never learns. "leftard" social media sites are a cesspool of fake news. That's because they're controlled by TNI, Al Jazeera, etc. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Legato Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yup. These headlines didn't even interest him Vancouver police deal with second stabbing in past week | Vancouver Sun Teen killed and seven injured in mass stabbing in Canada There's stabbing deaths and killings with all sorts of weapons almost daily these days. But only guns matter. Fun fact, haven't checked it in a few years but gun and knife killings in Canada usually run about neck and neck. 1 Quote
suds Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 7 hours ago, CDN1 said: Spare me, this bullshit. White men also commit suicide at much higher rates (makeup nearly 70% of all suicides), but this hasn't stopped liberals from collectively scapegoating and discriminating against them across institutions. I'm so sorry. Do you feel discriminated against? Are the wiberals being mean to poor widdle you? Poor thing. Maybe you should get some counseling. Or better yet, why don't you just get off you fu*king arse and change your life. Every means is at your disposal. Or maybe you can just p*ss off with your bullshit. Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) If this mentally unstable person didn’t have access to these guns, does this happen? Would they have chosen another means of killing? Maybe. Would it have been as efficiently lethal as guns? Likely not. Edited February 12 by TreeBeard 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 12 Author Report Posted February 12 43 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: If this mentally unstable person didn’t have access to these guns, does this happen? Yes. We see it all the time. He runs over children with a car, or he stabs them with a knife. Or he lights them on fire Once a person has decided they want to kill, they're going to find a way to kill. They generally pick the most dramatic means possible and right now that tends to be firearms if you have them. But if you don't you find another way 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: If this mentally unstable person didn’t have access to these guns, does this happen? Would they have chosen another means of killing? Maybe. Would it have been as efficiently lethal as guns? Likely not. Like I said, you guys don't care how many are killed, as long as it is not by guns. If they only stabbed a few people to death, oh well. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 6 hours ago, Goddess said: For the last few years she's been wondering "Am I gay? Am I bi? Am I a boy? Am I a girl?" And the schools are encouraging them to "Try it all out! It's fun!" The teachers are all trying to win the woke olympics, and they don't care if they have to hurt children to do it. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
CDN1 Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, suds said: I'm so sorry. Do you feel discriminated against? Are the wiberals being mean to poor widdle you? Poor thing. Maybe you should get some counseling. Or better yet, why don't you just get off you fu*king arse and change your life. Every means is at your disposal. Or maybe you can just p*ss off with your bullshit. Lol. Double down on the hypocrisy there, ya phony ass f'n cuck. Edited February 13 by CDN1 1 Quote
herbie Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 5 hours ago, herbie said: the adults must be accountable for the kid's access to those guns. She was held accountable with the cost of her life. A locked cabinet with the key in her pocket would've spared hers and all the other lives. NOT a responsible gun owner in ant way, shape or form. Mine were always locked up, even when my boy was 21 he couldn't take a gun without me giving him permission and the key. 3 Quote
I am Groot Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 On 2/11/2026 at 2:25 PM, BeaverFever said: The statistics show that immigrants commit crimes at lower rate than the general population, not that emotional rage-farmers like yourself base your opinions on facts. Ah, yes, the 'statistics'. Funny thing about those 'statistics'. We don't keep track of 'immigrants' and what crime they commit once their three years are up, and they get citizenship. We also don't keep very good track of them, even when they're still permanent residents and commit crimes. Especially as judges work so hard to keep the sentences low so they don't wind up getting in trouble with Border Services. https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart/specialized-operations-command/detective-operations/investigative-services/homicide/most-wanted/ Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
BeaverFever Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 22 hours ago, User said: Why do you want to limit access to firearms for someone having psychiatric episodes? The threat they pose to society doesn't stop if they do not have a gun. I did not say we should involuntarily commit people so the firearms can stay in the home; I said we should do so because they are considered a threat to society. You clearly do not know much about firearms, as you can also keep them locked and secured. And to the earlier point... if these people are a threat to society, what does having them move out do? A crazy person with a gun is a higher risk than crazy person without a gun, that’s just obvious. Because involuntarily institutionalizing someone is a violation of their basic rights the risk is WEIGHED based on the individual Like ALL risk assessments on any subject area, it considers both LIKELIHOOD and SEVERITY of potential adverse outcomes So Crazy people who are deemed at risk of harming themselves or others are involuntarily hospitalized. Those who are not deemed at risk are not, but that doesn’t mean there is 100% certain they will never be a risk under any circumstances and the assessment is completely foolproof and we are totally comfortable putting a gun on their hand In this shooter’s case it turns out police actually did confiscate the legally owned guns from the home but the gun owner successfully petitioned for them to be returned. The shooter also had a guns and hunting themed Youtube channel, which the family actively promoted on social media 29 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Ah, yes, the 'statistics'. Funny thing about those 'statistics'. We don't keep track of 'immigrants' and what crime they commit once their three years are up, and they get citizenship. We also don't keep very good track of them, even when they're still permanent residents and commit crimes. Especially as judges work so hard to keep the sentences low so they don't wind up getting in trouble with Border Services. https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart/specialized-operations-command/detective-operations/investigative-services/homicide/most-wanted/ What evidence so you have that any of those people are immigrants? Quote
eyeball Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The teachers are all trying to win the woke olympics, 16 minutes ago, I am Groot said: We don't keep track of 'immigrants'... ...Especially as judges work so hard to keep the sentences low... I guess we can add woke, immigrants plus catch and release justice to the list of grievances Tumbler Ridge has triggered. I guess it's probably like this in forums everywhere right wingers commiserate. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 3 hours ago, herbie said: Quote 8 hours ago, herbie said: the adults must be accountable for the kid's access to those guns. She was held accountable with the cost of her life. A locked cabinet with the key in her pocket would've spared hers and all the other lives. NOT a responsible gun owner in ant way, shape or form. Mine were always locked up, even when my boy was 21 he couldn't take a gun without me giving him permission and the key. Dude, quoting yourself and responding to yourself is a little weird 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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