Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[Legato]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

  He had to go begging to lizzie may to get his budget through

 

Yup, a half empty bottle of gin was all it took.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Shady said:

This is what you and your ilk have done to the country.  How is this good for Canada?  

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Legato said:

Yup, a half empty bottle of gin was all it took.

Wow, that's double her going rate

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

So May is stupid for supporting a govt that pays pays barely more than lip service over one that after 2 decades has no climate policy other than to make it worse.
Just who is "stupid"?

And our usual wrong wing tough guy that can't comprhened the difference between disgust and fear carries on some more.

Looks like you were out trying to drink with E May and Omar Khadr.

[Army Guy]

I find it very strange , that the reason this budget passed was nobody meaning oppositions parties,  wanted to go to the polls....or so they say....2 conservatives said they had problems voting online....and would later have their votes counted in chambers just when they knew they had enough votes to ensure it did not PASS and the NDP who voted last knew how many was needed to pass the budget and gave just the right amount to look good for their voters....all because they are  not ready to go to the polls...it seem the only ones wanting or ready was the liberals....who were confident it would fail or they hoped it would to go for that majority.....Politics...maybe, theater yes sir every bit of it....Voters fooled as usual

[ExFlyer]

47 minutes ago, Shady said:

This is what you and your ilk have done to the country.  How is this good for Canada?  
 

 

 

 

Hmmm OK...

Since being elected on April 28th, PM Carney and his government have hit the ground running turning promises into action both at home and on the world stage.

Here’s a look at what they’ve accomplished so far, and what’s coming next:


 Domestic Wins

 One Canada Act Passed
– Reduces interprovincial trade barriers and improves cooperation among provinces and territories.
– Early agreements signed with Ontario, BC, and Atlantic premiers.

 Middle-Class Tax Relief & Affordability
– Introduced tax cuts for middle-income Canadians.
– Announced measures to tackle housing costs and food insecurity.

 Housing Action
– Fast-tracked funding agreements with provinces and cities to accelerate affordable builds.
– Launched a national task force to modernize building codes and speed up permits.

 Carbon Tax Repeal & New Climate Approach
– Repealed the federal carbon tax on consumers.
– Introduced a pragmatic framework to stay on track with climate goals.

 Criminal Justice & Public Safety
– Advanced Bill C-5 to strengthen bail rules and penalties for repeat violent offenders.
– Increased funding for community policing and safety partnerships.

 Team Canada Collaboration
– Convened the First Ministers Meeting to foster provincial collaboration.
– Premier Ford and others have openly supported Carney’s approach.


 Global & Trade Leadership

 G7 Summit Leadership
– Brokered agreements on AI governance and global wildfire prevention.
– Secured $4.3B in defense and reconstruction aid for Ukraine.
– Reaffirmed Canada’s NATO defense spending target by end of 2025.

 Canada–UK Trade Working Group
– Deepening trade, AI, and critical minerals cooperation with the UK.

 Reset with India
– Restored full diplomatic relations and launched working groups on trade and student mobility.

 Canada–EU Summit
– Signed an updated Strategic Partnership Agreement to expand cooperation on supply chains, digital trade, and security.

 Strengthened Australia Ties
– Joint commitments on clean energy, Indo-Pacific security, and agriculture trade.

 Historic Greenland Agreement
– Bilateral deal on Arctic sovereignty, renewable energy, and port development reinforcing Canada’s leadership in the North.

 NATO Summit
– Committed additional Arctic defense funding and enhanced Ukraine support.

 US–Canada Trade Deal
– In negotiations to modernize NAFTA/USMCA.


 Economic & Fiscal Strategy

 Attracted new EU and UK investments in critical minerals and advanced manufacturing.

 Encouraged foreign investors to buy Canadian bonds as a hedge against US unpredictability.

 Committed to balancing fiscal responsibility with growth, no plans to gut services to meet targets.


 What’s Next This Summer & Fall

 Final US–Canada trade deal expected by August.

 New Arctic sovereignty and defense investments.

 Legislation to streamline immigration and tighten border security.

 National Housing Acceleration Program rollout.

 Fall budget unveiling investments, tax cuts, and efficiency measures.


 Bottom Line
It’s been just over two months, and this government has already delivered:

 Core platform promises—tax relief, carbon tax repeal, housing action

 Major international wins—restored alliances, secured funding, strengthened security

 A clear path forward to make Canada more resilient and less dependent on any one trading partner

More work ahead but these results speak for themselves. 


 

[CdnFox]

Just now, Army Guy said:

I find it very strange , that the reason this budget passed was nobody meaning oppositions parties,  wanted to go to the polls....or so they say....2 conservatives said they had problems voting online....and would later have their votes counted in chambers just when they knew they had enough votes to ensure it did not PASS and the NDP who voted last knew how many was needed to pass the budget and gave just the right amount to look good for their voters....all because they are  not ready to go to the polls...it seem the only ones wanting or ready was the liberals....who were confident it would fail or they hoped it would to go for that majority.....Politics...maybe, theater yes sir every bit of it....Voters fooled as usual

I don't think the liberals wanted to go to the polls. I think they just knew that the other parties wouldn't yet. And they did back down on a couple of things and gave the NDP a couple of bones and gave Elizabeth me enough to get through the vote

The bottom line is if an election is called the public will decide someone is at fault. It is not crystal clear who they would pick on although the liberals are definitely a possibility. Whoever gets blamed will likely suffer at the polls badly without knowing who that would be all the parties are somewhat nervous

And for the NDP they still owe over 200 million from the last election, I don't think we can blame them considering they don't even have a leader

And I think they all believe it sets the stage for the next confidence vote. In the spring they're supposed to either be a new budget or an economic update. I think it's a liberals are still disappointing all parties by that point and haven't had a deal the people can live with and the NDP has a new leader the liberals may find it a little harder.

But the one thing that literally every single poster and pundit agreed on is that Canadians don't really want to go to the polls again right now so you can't really blame all of the parties for giving them r what they want

[ExFlyer]

38 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Well there you go, see you can be honest when you try really hard  

All right we accept your new admission of defeat

Not in gov't.  A win is a majority.  They failed to get that. 

So basically it's just like winning a game in the series... you're going to have to do better than just that to get a win   He had to go begging to lizzie may to get his budget through

Well that's a lie isn't it. Carney was the one who wanted it. It's his job to make sure that enough of the other parties support him to get his budget passed. That's the way this works.

Initially he refused to even meet with them, so this was him and him alone. Can't blame the conservatives or anybody else for it

HA HA HA

Another post with nothing to say.

Nope, he didn't need lizzie...3 of PP's people didn't vote giving him the win without needing lizzie LOL

You LOSE, Carney WINS...

HA HA HA

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Hmmm OK...

Since being elected on April 28th, PM Carney and his government have hit the ground running turning promises into action both at home and on the world stage.

 

 

Nope.

His promise: An end to interprovincial trade barriers.

Achievement? Nothing. Trade barriers are worse than they've ever been

His promise: The stimulate building new homes faster than ever in our history

Achievement: 0. We're building homes that are rate lower than normal

His promise: a deal with trump that Canada can live with

Achievement: Less than zero. Not only do we not have a deal we have more tariffs than when he took office by far and our economy is suffering

His promise: We would build at a lightning pace never seen for generations

His achievement: Nada. There have been no new projects announced, and the only projects he's talked about is ones that were already progressing or had already started on their own.

His promise: He would balance the operational budget within a few years

Achievement: Big fat lie. The Parliamentary budget officer has proven that he cooked the books and will follow 100 billion dollars short of his goals and that he excluded things from the operational budget that every other country includes

 

Carney has failed to cross the board. Since taking office he's achieved nothing. In fact he's made some things worse.

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

HA HA HA

HA HA HA

Thank you for admitting you failed again. But honestly we already knew

[ExFlyer]

44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah he did.  What glue are you sniffing now?  Only two conservatives didn't vote, one out on surgery so she couldn't' be there and the one who quit so he abstained.  Everyone else voted. 

I know math isn't your strong point but read the counts again. 

Nope...Their electronic vote did not count.....they had to be in their seat and they were not.

"Conservatives Andrew Scheer and Scott Reid both voted no but only in the time that is allowed for MPs voted electronically to claim tech problems. They were both in the House, so why were didn’t they vote in person?"

https://www.brianlilley.com/p/no-election-for-now-the-budget-passes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7stpoBRCpcs

 

Whine and cry and spout BS all ya want but the libs won and ...once again...you LOSE!!!!!!

Have a good evening crying in your soup LOL

Edited November 18, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Shady]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Why are you frightened of Poilievre?

He’s frightened of balanced budgets, a strong Canadian dollar, affordable homes, oil and gas pipelines, responsible immigration rates, and higher per capita GDP.  All of which liberals have made much worse while in office.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope...Their electronic vote did not count.....they had to be in their seat and they were not.

"Conservatives Andrew Scheer and Scott Reid both voted no but only in the time that is allowed for MPs voted electronically to claim tech problems. They were both in the House, so why were didn’t they vote in person?"

https://www.brianlilley.com/p/no-election-for-now-the-budget-passes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7stpoBRCpcs

 

Whine and cry and spout BS all ya want but the libs won and ...once again...you LOSE!!!!!!

Ummm.  he did vote in person , it was added late along with one other person who had difficulties voting. 

"Conservative House Leader Andrew Scheer (Regina—Qu’Appelle, Sask.) and Conservative MP Scott Reid (Lanark—Frontenac, Ont.), chair of the national caucus, were initially absent from the House, but arrived late, saying they had technical difficulties with remote voting, and that they were voting “no.”"

Liberals 'live another day' narrowly win budget vote, avoid election - The Hill Times

 

Both their votes were recorded. as you can see from the vote totals

 LOLOL you got caught lying again little guy   

4 minutes ago, Shady said:

He’s frightened of balanced budgets, a strong Canadian dollar, affordable homes, oil and gas pipelines, responsible immigration rates, and higher per capita GDP.  All of which liberals have made much worse while in office.

He's frightened because he's so tribal he doesn't care about anything but the liberals staying in power and he realizes he he has the ability to take that away

[herbie]

Cry, disparage, ridicule, complain all you want.

PP LOST AGAIN.

Better hope they find both a new leader and new strategy. 

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, herbie said:

Cry, disparage, ridicule, complain all you want.

PP LOST AGAIN.

Better hope they find both a new leader and new strategy. 

How did he lose? 

[John Stone]

18 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

If you were watching  budget vote, you might’ve noticed something odd: two Conservative MPs in the House didn’t vote during the roll call, Andrew Scheer and Scott Reid. On the record, that means they abstained.

Only after the motion passed by four votes did they suddenly pop up claiming “technical issues” with their app and asked to register their “no” votes, narrowing the margin to two.

The problem? The technical-issue exception only applies to MPs voting virtually. These two were sitting right there in the chamber.

This wasn’t an accident. It wasn’t confusion. It was the Conservatives quietly dodging a non-confidence vote because they absolutely do not want an election right now.

They’re playing games and hoping Canadians don’t notice.

[ExFlyer]

[Goddess]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

His promise: An end to interprovincial trade barriers.

Achievement? Nothing. Trade barriers are worse than they've ever been

His promise: The stimulate building new homes faster than ever in our history

Achievement: 0. We're building homes that are rate lower than normal

His promise: a deal with trump that Canada can live with

Achievement: Less than zero. Not only do we not have a deal we have more tariffs than when he took office by far and our economy is suffering

His promise: We would build at a lightning pace never seen for generations

His achievement: Nada. There have been no new projects announced, and the only projects he's talked about is ones that were already progressing or had already started on their own.

His promise: He would balance the operational budget within a few years

Achievement: Big fat lie. The Parliamentary budget officer has proven that he cooked the books and will follow 100 billion dollars short of his goals and that he excluded things from the operational budget that every other country includes

Is it at all surprising that the child who thinks winning elections, not competent governing of a country, is the sign of political "winning"....... also thinks making political promises is the same as "achievement"?

[ExFlyer]

17 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I find it very strange , that the reason this budget passed was nobody meaning oppositions parties,  wanted to go to the polls....or so they say....2 conservatives said they had problems voting online....and would later have their votes counted in chambers just when they knew they had enough votes to ensure it did not PASS and the NDP who voted last knew how many was needed to pass the budget and gave just the right amount to look good for their voters....all because they are  not ready to go to the polls...it seem the only ones wanting or ready was the liberals....who were confident it would fail or they hoped it would to go for that majority.....Politics...maybe, theater yes sir every bit of it....Voters fooled as usual

 

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ummm.  he did vote in person , it was added late along with one other person who had difficulties voting. 

"Conservative House Leader Andrew Scheer (Regina—Qu’Appelle, Sask.) and Conservative MP Scott Reid (Lanark—Frontenac, Ont.), chair of the national caucus, were initially absent from the House, but arrived late, saying they had technical difficulties with remote voting, and that they were voting “no.”"

Liberals 'live another day' narrowly win budget vote, avoid election - The Hill Times

 

Both their votes were recorded. as you can see from the vote totals

 LOLOL you got caught lying again little guy   

He's frightened because he's so tribal he doesn't care about anything but the liberals staying in power and he realizes he he has the ability to take that away

[Legato]

18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Are you totally blind they were Mr. & Ms. Bigfoot trying to cadge some gin off the May woman.

 

[Goddess]

All the Liberal paid-for media can talk about is this.

Not one peep about the 💩sandwich of a budget and how it's going to affect Canadians.

Not one peep about how the Libs were called out by financial institutions and business and industry about the "creative accounting" tricks they tried to pull.

Canada is held hostage by a couple of Liberal-strong ridings.  We have to wait until Lib supporters wake up and start thinking.  I don't think that's going to happen until the economy collapses and the lights go out and the Liberal gov't flees with the country with whatever is left in the treasury.  Maybe THEN they will wake up.

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, Legato said:

Are you totally blind they were Mr. & Ms. Bigfoot trying to cadge some gin off the May woman.

 

Hard to admit the complainitives were playing a game Eh???

Sad sad PP Le Pew and crew LOL

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

All the Liberal paid-for media can talk about is this.

Not one peep about the 💩sandwich of a budget and how it's going to affect Canadians.

Not one peep about how the Libs were called out by financial institutions and business and industry about the "creative accounting" tricks they tried to pull.

Canada is held hostage by a couple of Liberal-strong ridings.  We have to wait until Lib supporters wake up and start thinking.  I don't think that's going to happen until the economy collapses and the lights go out and the Liberal gov't flees with the country with whatever is left in the treasury.  Maybe THEN they will wake up.

 

 

 

[Goddess]

Saw this reply from someone on X to "Susan", but it pretty much sums up my feelings:

 

Maybe this will clear it up for you Susan, Although I have made this message crystal clear at least a 100 times in the last 3 years.

For all the id!0ts out there who think I'm some sort of conservative whack job , let me make this crystal clear for you .

I am neither left nor right .

I am a "leave me the f*&k alone" type of guy , and when you get into my business, you're going to get resistance like you have never seen .

Well, it's the Liberal government that has gotten into my business.

When they told me I couldn't go into a restaurant or bar or on a plane or a train … or I couldn't travel at all .

And they didn't stop there .

No. They are coming for everyone's guns .

They are coming for your free speech .

They are throwing billions of your dollars to foreign aid while our food banks are lining up in record numbers .

This is not a left or right thing .

This is a government gone rogue on its citizens.

Currently, the government that is in power is the Liberal government that has been in power for 11 years .

The state of our country has deteriorated faster in that 11-year period than in any other period in the history of Canada .

I'm not a Conservative.

I'm a "this Liberal Party's gotta go" .

And when the Conservatives come in, if they continue with the destruction, I will be on them just as much as I was on the Liberal Party.

Don't group me with any party .

Group me with the people that understand that the Liberal Party has got to go .

If you want to call it voting for the lesser of two evils, fine—call it that .

Whatever floats your boat .

Because I haven't heard any other viable solution that's going to change anything .

I hear of the “independents movement.”

They got 2 seats… 3 seats maybe .

They're not about to do anything .

I hear “let's separate from the Crown.”

Okay—you get right on that. Call me when you've got it done .

I hear “if we all don't vote, the system collapses.”

Quit smoking cr@ck .

The politicians will vote. Even if 400 people vote in the entire country, guess who still wins?

The Liberals .

All you “two wings of the same bird” party people —what solution have you got?

Because I've heard a bunch, and they all sound like a 50-year plan , not something that's going to alleviate the pain in this country right f*&king now .

So keep working on that while the rest of us vote Conservative in every election until the Liberals are gone .

And then all of you deny the fact that the last time the Conservatives were in power, our country was in a lot better shape .

So no—I'm not a f*&king lefty or a righty.

I am a "get this f*&king government out of power"  and hang these motherf*&kers that have done this to our country.

And if you are a PPC supporter—Jeff Evely—what the f^*k is that going to accomplish?

Your party has never won a seat , and they went from 800,000 votes in 2021 (which, by the way, cost the Conservatives the election ) down to 200,000 in the last vote .

You’d be much better off joining the Conservative Party and keeping them honest from the inside —inside a party that can actually win —just like Aaron Gunn did in BC .

That move gave him twice the influence you’ve ever had .

Doesn’t sound like an upward trend that’s going to accomplish anything .

Maybe that's because everybody figured out that when the elections are over, Max f&*ks off to his Florida home and has nothing to do with Canada except trying to help the Liberal Party stay in power to destroy it .

I can confidently say that in the past 5 years I have probably spent as much or more time than anybody digging deep into what's happening in our country.

Every time someone shares something with me, it's like they think I've never seen it before .

I have seen more than just about any freedom fighter in this movement has seen .

I am not a lefty or a righty.

I am just fully aware that this Liberal Party has to go, and I am also fully aware that the Conservative Party is the only party we have a real chance to make that happen with .

Every other thing is a distraction .

Smoke and mirrors .

Trolls and bots .

And really f*&king stupid people .

So the next time you come at me with “what the Conservative Party has done” or “how bad they are because of this or that” , you better come with a f*&king solution —otherwise stay the f*&k off my page .

You’re doing nothing to help the situation but b!tch and moan , and you’re actually counter-productive as hell because you’re bad-mouthing the only real, tangible solution we have that’s right in front of us .

Bring answers or bring silence.

[Goddess]

Carney, the self-proclaimed globalist, is a man who enjoys congratulating himself for having values he can't explain and projects he had nothing to do with, but deeply enjoys pretending they were all "him".  Loves himself, loves the camera, loves you loving him.

Math?

Reality?

The people footing the bill?

He doesn't give a rat's a$$ about any of that.

Every project he's announced is connected to Brookfield Asset Management, he will make hundreds of millions before his term is up.  He's not here for Canadians.  Hell, he hasn't lived here in decades, his family lives in New York and the vast majority (👋waves to eyeball 👋) of his business investments are in the US.  He succeeds if Canada fails.

The budget passed because, in Canada, chaos needs a victory lap.  May drank a bottle of gin and announced Carney is now "Super Carney" who will rescue us from the Global Air Fryer, if we all just believe hard enough.

All the MP's insist Canadians don't want an election, but let's be honest:  For the NDP that's code for "Our credit cards are maxed out and we can't afford lawn signs."  None of them can afford another election.

They want you to focus on Andrew Sheer behind the curtain, while ignoring that

• The debt has doubled in 10 years.
• We're not fixing healthcare, roads or defense, just feeding Bay Street.
• Since 1980, we've paid more than we owe and yet, VOILA!, we still owe more.

It's not "investing in the future" at all.  The budget had to pass because not enough people are feeling it yet.

Those drowning under rent/mortgages, groceries, interest rates have felt it for years now.

Those still floating in asset bubbles and past Liberal nostalgia?  Just hang tight.  Your bill is on its way, like a kidney stone made of credit card debt.  They haven't used your tax dollars for commissioned studies on how to get your home equity or asked CRA to make a count of how many spare bedrooms are in your house for nothing.

Meanwhile, the Brookfield Party of Canada still has the company credit card and they're buying appetizers and racking up $51,000 in booze tabs.  (Lookin' at you, Joly.)

Until their pain catches up to our's, until their loudest supporters start feeling the squeeze the rest of us have been choking on, they'll keep clapping like seals, chanting "historic investments" and ordering the Beef Wellington.  On your tab.  Until they're as broke as the citizens they are lecturing.

I would love to see every MP, all of them, inspecting cans of tomato soup at the Food Bank and muttering "Hmmmm.  2021.  That's still good, right?"

 

[TreeBeard]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

They want you to focus on Andrew Sheer behind the curtain, while ignoring that

Why didn’t the Conservatives bring down the government if it’s so bad?  

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

It's already been pointed out to you that this was a lie. So I guess the question is if you have to lie and pretend that carney is doing better than he is, what does that say about you? And what does it say about carney  

4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why didn’t the Conservatives bring down the government if it’s so bad?  

Canadians don't want an election right now.  It's only been 7 months. 

So they're a bad gov't, but they'll get a chance to fix that between now and the spring.  I suspect at that point once we're close to a year they won't get such a break.