Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why didn’t the Conservatives bring down the government if it’s so bad?  

This is planet Earth and the rings around Saturn are not candy floss.

[Goddess]

15 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why didn’t the Conservatives bring down the government if it’s so bad?  

Why didn't the Liberals work with the other parties to create a budget that made sense?

It's been explained here over and over, but I'll try one more time because I know you ride the short bus.

None of the parties want an election right now because it's not clear who would win.  If we went to election now, there's a chance the Libs would win again and perhaps with a majority.  That means 4 more years of Canada circling the toilet bowl and being run by incompetents.  

I do believe it was the LIBERALS who wanted an election, to secure 4 more years of gorging at the trough of tax-payer money for themselves.  that's why they refused to work with or consult with the other parties on the budget.  they presented a 💩sandwich for a budget, hoping the other parties would take the bait and trigger an election.

Now they have to work with a 💩sandwich for a budget, which almost every financial, business and industry guru says is a 💩sandwich.

I think the idea is to give them the next year to fail, for the Carney cheerleaders to see they've been conned and then maybe....election time.

One more year of continued incompetence is preferable to 4 more years of it.

Edited November 19, 2025 by Goddess

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Is it at all surprising that the child who thinks winning elections, not competent governing of a country, is the sign of political "winning"....... also thinks making political promises is the same as "achievement"?

Occasionally you run into people that have such poor self-esteem that there's personal sense of worth and value becomes transferred to another entity. They emotionally invest in their sports team of choice, or in a video game character that they play, or their political team, etc etc. And they associate theirsential own value with that other entities value.

Essentially @ExFlyer thinks of himself as a good person only as long as the liberal party is doing well. If the liberal party fails he thinks he's failed. He also obviously believes other people are the same. If the Carney messes up it's exflyer's mess up too. 

This isn't entirely uncommon in adolescent kids. it's a difficult time of emotional instability for them and they may not have that sense of self worth most of us do. So they latch on to something like this. 

[TreeBeard]

25 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Why didn't the Liberals work with the other parties to create a budget that made sense?

With the Conservatives scheming to help the Liberals, the either did enough in the budget to appease Conservatives.  Or the Liberals didn’t have to work with anyone because the Conservatives were going to make sure it passed by hiding some MPs behind curtains.  

 

29 minutes ago, Goddess said:

None of the parties want an election right now

You sort of nailed it on the head here.  The Conservatives are afraid they’d lose, so get that budget passed at all costs.  But they’re afraid to say this, so they have to try and be sneaky supporters.  
 

 

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

The Conservatives are afraid they’d lose, so get that budget passed at all costs.  But they’re afraid to say this, so they have to try and be sneaky supporters.  

While there is some truth to this, you've put your own spin on it.

Nobody supports this budget.  No other parties, no financial, business or industry gurus.

It's a 💩sandwich and we all have to eat it until Liberal empty-heads who are more concerned with Andrew Sheer than what is actually in the budget, wake up.

I think more and more of us are aware and resigned to the fact that's not going to happen any time soon.  The gov't paid for media will make sure Liberal cheerleaders keep sleeping.  It's going to have to get a LOT worse in Canada before low-intelligence voters figure out what's really going on.

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Occasionally you run into people that have such poor self-esteem that there's personal sense of worth and value becomes transferred to another entity. They emotionally invest in their sports team of choice, or in a video game character that they play, or their political team, etc etc. And they associate theirsential own value with that other entities value.

I think Gad Saad talks about this in his books.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

While there is some truth to this, you've put your own spin on it.

Nobody supports this budget.  No other parties, no financial, business or industry gurus.

It's a 💩sandwich and we all have to eat it until Liberal empty-heads who are more concerned with Andrew Sheer than what is actually in the budget, wake up.

I think more and more of us are aware and resigned to the fact that's not going to happen any time soon.  The gov't paid for media will make sure Liberal cheerleaders keep sleeping.  It's going to have to get a LOT worse in Canada before low-intelligence voters figure out what's really going on.

It's already being said on the talk show circuit that the vote wasn't a vote of support for the budget, it was a vote in favor of not going to an election that Canadians didn't want  

It may not be commonly known but 6 months is kind of a magic number when it comes to parliament. It is held in most commonwealth countries that within about 6 months of the last election it is unreasonable to believe that the public would have had time to review and change their mind from the position they took in the last election and that elections should be avoided strenuously during that length of time.

We're right on the edge of that, canadians definitely don't want an election, and the parties aren't ready to fight an election which means they're not going to be able to present a reasonable honest series of options to Canadians to choose from.

It kind of sucks. But if carney had introduced his budget when he was supposed to nobody would have been willing to go to an election then either. So he gets one for free.

But you can bet all of the parties will be gunning for him in the next one. This time he pretended he was trump and it was his way or the highway but next time if he tries that he's going to get slaughtered

[TreeBeard]

15 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Nobody supports this budget.  No other parties

Not true.  The Conservatives made sure it passed.   They didn’t want to be seen supporting it, so they were sneaky in making sure it passed.  
 

 

Edited November 19, 2025 by TreeBeard

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

within about 6 months of the last election it is unreasonable to believe that the public would have had time to review and change their mind from the position they took in the last election

The time between when Carney was installed as PM and the election was very short - not enough time for Canadians to figure out or research who he really was.  Not that Liberal cheerleaders would care much anyways.  Like I always say, Carney could rape a 9 year old on stage and they'd still vote for him.

Trudeau policies have nearly wiped out the middle class in Canada.

All that's left are those Lib empty-heads who live in their asset bubbles and think everything is great.  Canada is broke.  Liberal gov't will be coming for them next.  Liberals have been eyeing pensions, capital gains, home equity, increasing taxes on everything, any assets Canadians still have.....once they come for those.....

Then they might wake up.  Maybe.

Or they'll just continue to blame it all on Harper, Trump, Pollievre, Harry Potter.  Whatever.  They're so deep in delusion, and as you pointed out, their entire identity is so wrapped up in being a Liberal supporter that they may never see daylight.

Edited November 19, 2025 by Goddess

[Legato]

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Not true.  The Conservatives made sure it passed.   They didn’t want to be seen supporting it, so they were sneaky in making sure it passed.  
 

 

and yet nobody supports this budget.

The Liberal will have to live with it.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The time between when Carney was installed as PM and the election was very short - not enough time for Canadians to figure out or research who he really was.  Not that Liberal cheerleaders would care much anyways.  Like I always say, Carney could rape a 9 year old on stage and they'd still vote for him.

It was very short, but it is supposed by the system that people will take that into account when they vote and that could work for him or against him. But if they had made that assessment and made that decision only a few months earlier and we're being asked to make it again it's unlikely they would change their mind.

And I don't think carney can eat a live baby. At the very beginning nobody would have believed it if he did eat a live baby, they would have said it was fake news and voted anyway. They were very easily manipulated that way.

But people felt that way about Trudeau, and he went from a majority to a minority, to a minority again to being run out of office because he was so unpopular the liberal party might have been wiped out.

It takes time but even the liberals have to admit it when the country starts to burn. I don't know they're going to wait that long with carney.

Right now as we speak today men and women are going to the supermarket and realizing they're having a tough time feeding their family. They're looking at for sale signs on homes and realizing they'll never be able to afford one. They're turning in their 100th resume for jobs and not getting a call back.

Liberals will let the liberals get away with anything, right up till they're starving. And then they get serious

[Legato]

Your tax dollars in action.

 

 

 

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Liberals will let the liberals get away with anything, right up till they're starving. And then they get serious

I disagree.

The Liberals will pay the media to say it's Trump's fault, or Harry Potter's fault, or Harper's fault that they're starving.  They will continue to vote Liberal.

The Liberal party will skip the country, pockets full of cash and their supporters will blame Pollievre for being so mean to them that they had to leave.

Edited November 19, 2025 by Goddess

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

It's already been pointed out to you that this was a lie. So I guess the question is if you have to lie and pretend that carney is doing better than he is, what does that say about you? And what does it say about carney  

Canadians don't want an election right now.  It's only been 7 months. 

So they're a bad gov't, but they'll get a chance to fix that between now and the spring.  I suspect at that point once we're close to a year they won't get such a break. 

Yup...all lies when you LOSE LOL

Carney is blowing PP out of the water. 

PP Le Pew hid his people to help the libs pass their budget..... seems it was PP Le Pew that didn't want an election LOL

YUp...libs in charge and PP Le PP ain't LOL

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Not true.  The Conservatives made sure it passed.   They didn’t want to be seen supporting it, so they were sneaky in making sure it passed.  
 

 

Passing it and supporting it or not the same thing. It is possible to say I do not support this budget but I do not believe this is a good time to go to an election so we're going to allow it to live without voting for it

If you support a budget you vote for it. If you're voting against it or 99% of your people are then you're not in favor of the boat budget

[ExFlyer]

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

Your tax dollars in action.

 

 

 

At least he came home ot vote not liek the 2 LOSERS that hid behind the cirtains LOL

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I disagree.

The Liberals will pay the media to say it's Trump's fault, or Harry Potter's fault, or Harper's fault that they're starving.  They will continue to vote Liberal.

 

Historically that's not true. When they get hungry enough they don't give a crap anymore they just want someone to fix it and if they don't believe in the current label government's ability to fix it then they will vote for someone else.

Obviously there's a core handful who simply will never ever ever vote anything other than liberal even if it means that they and their children have to die. But a good solid hunk of the liberals and the NDP will abandon their parties if they feel that they are in Desperate Straits and the liberals have not been able to help.

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The Liberal party will skip the country, pockets full of cash and their supporters will blame Pollievre for being so mean to them that they had to leave.

Well they're going to skip the country with their pockets full of cash, that's for certain. Trudeau did. But so far liberals have not blamed poilievre for Trudeau. 

The only reason they voted for carney is because he was brand new and they were convinced he represented a brand new government that might be able to help them.

5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup...all lies when you LOSE LOL

 

Except I didn't lose. And it's still Lies.

If you were really winning, why wouldn't the truth be good enough for you? Why do you feel you need to lie if you're actually winning?

The fact is you're admitting you know that carney is not winning right now. He's sinking and it's getting worse and they will come a point when he just free falls. And that point is going to come a lot sooner than it did with Trudeau

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Passing it and supporting it or not the same thing.

The Liberal supporter mind is fascinating, yes?

Winning election, not good governance = Success

Passing a budget = Full support of it

11 years of Liberal incompetence leading to falling living standards, mountains of debt failure of all systems = all Harper's fault

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Historically that's not true. When they get hungry enough they don't give a crap anymore they just want someone to fix it and if they don't believe in the current label government's ability to fix it then they will vote for someone else.

I guess we'll see, because this is definitely going to happen.

But I have completely lost faith in the average Canadian.

We're a country of short bus riders, importing millions more short bus riders every year, willingly forking over every penny we have so the gov't trough-gorgers can order $100,000 in airline food on every trip and give themselves gigantic raises semi-annually and blaming it all on the guy who left a surplus 11 years ago and guided us as safely as was possible through the 2008-2009 global financial crisis.

No.  We're not that smart.

[Legato]

14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

At least he came home ot vote not liek the 2 LOSERS that hid behind the cirtains LOL

Why keep showing pics of bigfoot?

[Goddess]

😂 LOL 😂 

Tell us you're a 12-year-old boy without telling us you're a 12-year-old boy.

Here, let me make your day, little one.  You've been trying to get my attention all morning:

FART

BURP

POOP

**giggle, giggle**

So, so funny.

Edited November 19, 2025 by Goddess

[Legato]

Just now, Goddess said:

😂 LOL 😂 

Tell us you're a 12-year-old boy without telling us you're a 12-year-old boy.

Here, let me make your day, little one:

FART

BURP

POOP

**giggle, giggle**

So, so funny.

Well you have to admire the naivety from the bloodspot champion, at least it's constant. I wonder how much the Carney pays it to genuflect at the Liberal altar.

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, Legato said:

Well you have to admire the naivety from the bloodspot champion, at least it's constant. I wonder how much the Carney pays it to genuflect at the Liberal altar.

I think it's just a little boy who is desperate for attention from parental figures.  It's why he's latched on to Fox and I.  I used to see it all the time when I was raising my kids.  There's always one kid in every group that needs the attention of EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, so they keep doing and saying the same thing over and over and over - "Look at meeeee!  Look at meeee!  Watch me do a karate kick!  Are you watching?  Look at meeeee!"

It's cute for about 5 minutes, then it starts to get old.  And sad.

 

Edited November 19, 2025 by Goddess

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, Legato said:

the bloodspot champion

I don't know what this is about - I missed it.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I don't know what this is about - I missed it.

He's referring to the little down arrows.  

[Goddess]

Just now, CdnFox said:

He's referring to the little down arrows.  

Ahhh.  Thanks.