Charlie Kirk shot!

[User]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You would think a gun guy would know that.

You would think someone capable of reading would know that was never a point of contention that a gun guy didn't know. 

 

[Army Guy]

On 9/10/2025 at 8:11 PM, gatomontes99 said:

Why was it hate? Because you didnt agree with it? 

everything is hate when the left does not agree with it...

[robosmith]

35 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

The left is motivated by hate. You’re going to have to come to terms with that. It’s not about the oppressed, it’s about hate of the rich, hate of the successful. Hate of conservatives. Hate of God.

YOU are DEFENDING Trump's violation of the Constitution in MULTIPLE WAYS.

But what else can we expect from YOU MAGA CULT. 🤮

8 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

everything is hate when the left does not agree with it...

Everything is a LIE when YOU generalize like ^this.

[WestCanMan]

58 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

This is already done.

Yup.

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What if the video is an AI fake?

Anyone who gets caught deep-faking a video to try to get someone convicted of a violent crime is looking at years in a real prison. Only the Dems and ABC tv can get away with doctoring video to incriminate people.

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A lot of the Democratic states have gone to no-bail bail now, like Canada has. Ie, nobody puts up any money or guarantees. They sign a promise and they get released.

That could work, as long as running is automatic prison time. 

[CouchPotato]

 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Hate of the uncontrollable.. 

The left hates anyone who won't do what the left wants and follow the left ideology. LIke guns? you deserve death. Don't want to pay reparations? You should be shot.  Work for an insurance company i chose to buy insurance from but don't like? Get murdered in the street dog.

They are the modern day communists. Violence and hatred to anyone who  doesn't bend the knee. 

What a load of absolute opposite of reality bullshit. The people inundating politicians with death threats are largely from the right. The violent militia groups are all right wing. The neo nazi and kk groups endorse Trump and Republicans. The people calling for Trudeau to be “lynched for treason” are obviously not liberals. The people plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer and the people who stormed the Capitol with the intent of abducting and/or executing Democrats were Republican.  They’re all welcomed at Trump rallies 

 

Let me remind you Kirk was famous for hateful statements like citing when he said the bible verse calling for gay people to be put to death was “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters”

Edited September 12, 2025 by BeaverFever

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The pic you saw was better than the one i had then, but to be honest he probably just thought it was 'camo' to get through the crowd   

He didn't seem to intend to be caught. ANd of course we don't' know if that's actually the guy yet

 

That's a good point. Looks l've might've been giving the pos too much credit. lol

[paxamericana]

22 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

 

Invoking violence and hatred against those we disagree with and normalizing it as acceptable is how democracy dies. These people have no idea how dangerous they are teetering on the path to their own destruction. Public debate is so we can have open dialogue with one another over issue we don’t all agree on ;precisely so we can avoid the violence that would follow if there is no open dialogue. 

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

 

You know, NONE of those examples mean ANYTHING legally when they're NOT followed up on by actually BREAKING THE LAW like Jan 6th WAS. You know that, right?

[West]

The left hammered Donnie by lying about him calling neo Nazis fine people. Yet here they are "both sides-ing" the Charlie Kirk shooting. 

There's no fine people who shoot over someone's views 

[paxamericana]

18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

What a load of absolute opposite of reality bullshit. The people inundating politicians with death threats are largely from the right. The violent militia groups are all right wing. The neo nazi and kk groups endorse Trump and Republicans. The people calling for Trudeau to be “lynched for treason” are obviously not liberals. The people plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer and the people who stormed the Capitol with the intent of abducting and/or executing Democrats were Republican.  They’re all welcomed at Trump rallies 

I think you’re conflating the American ideals against government tyranny and actual violence against people who we disagree with at a public debate. Those are two very different things. 
 

P.s, the 2020 election was stollen.

Edited September 12, 2025 by paxamericana

[gatomontes99]

Disgusting

 

 

[Aristides]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/charlie-kirk-shooting-donald-trump-political-violence-1.7631080

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2z9z4m22ro

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/conservative-political-activist-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-university-20250911-p5mu3s.html

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/572873/analysis-the-ugly-aftermath-of-charlie-kirk-s-assassination-it-didn-t-used-to-be-like-thisd

What the world sees. This topic confirms it.

Edited September 12, 2025 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

What a load of absolute opposite of reality bullshit.

It is 100 percent the truth. 

Hell bud, even the moderate left has been talking about it for a year or so. 

The left HATES anything it cant' control.  Conservatives tend to ignore crap they can't control as long as it doesn't affect them or their children, even if they don't like it.  But the left? They WILL NOT tolerate ANY dissention towards a group they DO like and WILL tolerate it towards groups they don't. 

Remember when the liberals refused to sign a simple letter condemning antisemitism? I do. Beacuase it was like last week. 

13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The people inundating politicians with death threats are largely from the right.

The people killing them and trying to kill them have been on the left.

14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The neo nazi and kk groups endorse Trump and Republicans.

The Palestine terror groups and anti jew groups supports the dems. 

14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The people calling for Trudeau to be “lynched for treason” are obviously not liberals.

The liberals cheered loudest when trump almost died. 

15 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The people plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer and the people who stormed the Capitol with the intent of abducting and/or executing Democrats were Republican.

The people who burned cities, killed and injured hundreds and cost billions in damages were democrats. 

 

And the killings recently have all been loonie lefties.  Two attempts at trump, this guy, shooting up a church, another shooting ... a few and its getting hard to remember them all.  

And that's just the most violent examples. And they're all pretty recent. 

The left is driven by hatred and bigotry and is intolerant of ANY view other than it's own. 

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/charlie-kirk-shooting-donald-trump-political-violence-1.7631080

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/conservative-political-activist-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-university-20250911-p5mu3s.html

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/572873/analysis-the-ugly-aftermath-of-charlie-kirk-s-assassination-it-didn-t-used-to-be-like-thisd

What the world sees. This topic confirms it.

The World sees the left trying to cover itself after yet another one of its supporters goes nuts and kills an innocent man?

I think you might be right there

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Disgusting

 

 

Here ya go @BeaverFever.  tell me all about the 'peaceful' left. These guys and ones just like him are everywhere. 

[Aristides]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It is 100 percent the truth. 

Hell bud, even the moderate left has been talking about it for a year or so. 

The left HATES anything it cant' control.  Conservatives tend to ignore crap they can't control as long as it doesn't affect them or their children, even if they don't like it.  But the left? They WILL NOT tolerate ANY dissention towards a group they DO like and WILL tolerate it towards groups they don't. 

Remember when the liberals refused to sign a simple letter condemning antisemitism? I do. Beacuase it was like last week. 

The people killing them and trying to kill them have been on the left.

The Palestine terror groups and anti jew groups supports the dems. 

The liberals cheered loudest when trump almost died. 

The people who burned cities, killed and injured hundreds and cost billions in damages were democrats. 

 

And the killings recently have all been loonie lefties.  Two attempts at trump, this guy, shooting up a church, another shooting ... a few and its getting hard to remember them all.  

And that's just the most violent examples. And they're all pretty recent. 

The left is driven by hatred and bigotry and is intolerant of ANY view other than it's own. 

The World sees the left trying to cover itself after yet another one of its supporters goes nuts and kills an innocent man?

I think you might be right there

Like I said, this thread confirms it. You just provide an exclamation mark. 

Where was your outrage when Melissa Hartman and her husband were shot?

[CouchPotato]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Here ya go @BeaverFever.  tell me all about the 'peaceful' left. These guys and ones just like him are everywhere. 

Remember all the people here defending Luigi Mangione or the Tesla arsonists. They have no issue at all with violence from their side.

By they same token, they are all ready to condemn the people like the truckers as terrorists and a national security threat. 

[CouchPotato]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Where was your outrage when Melissa Hartman and her husband were shot?

I don't know if he was outraged or not. I would bet my life on it that CdnFox didn't celebrate on TikTok or trash them afterward, or imply they had it coming.

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

I don't know if he was outraged or not. I would bet my life on it that CdnFox didn't celebrate on TikTok or trash them afterward, or imply they had it coming.

At what point do people say, we can't do this anymore? What will it take for you? 

Or are you on the road to where nothing matters but the complete annihilation of the other side, whoever you imagine them to be?

Melissa Hortment didn't say any of the polarizing things Kirk did. Quite the opposite.

[CouchPotato]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

At what point do people say, we can't do this anymore? What will it take for you? 

Or are you on the road to where nothing matters but the complete annihilation of the other side, whoever you imagine them to be?

Melissa Hortment didn't say any of the polarizing things Kirk did. Quite the opposite.

No one on our side is calling for the complete annihilation of the other side. Charlie Kirk said things he believed in. Polarizing speech is another way for saying he disagreed with the left. That is a right in a democratic society. He wasn't calling for violence. No one here praised the death of Melissa Hortman. If you asked CdnFox to condemn the attack he would do so instantly. Meanwhile up here in Canada we have a Liberal party that can't sign a condemnation of antisemitism tabled by one of their members. 

Edited September 12, 2025 by CouchPotato

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

No one on our side is calling for the complete annihilation of the other side. Charlie Kirk said things he believed in. Polarizing speech is another way for saying he disagreed with the left. That is a right in a democratic society. He wasn't calling for violence. No one here praised the death of Melissa Hortman.

There you go again. Among  other things Kirk was anti trans, thought the Civil Rights act was a mistake and black people were better off under Jim Crowe, said black women didn't have the mental capacity to do responsible jobs and that empathy was bullshit.

Empathy: The ability to identify with or understand another's situation or feelings:

I have sympathy for his family but why would I have any for someone who can't have empathy.

The guy was an assh0le but didn't deserve to die for it. 

Edited September 12, 2025 by Aristides

[gatomontes99]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

There you go again. Among  other things Kirk was anti trans, thought the Civil Rights act was a mistake and black people were better off under Jim Crowe, said black women didn't have the mental capacity to do responsible jobs and that empathy was bullshit.

Empathy: The ability to identify with or understand another's situation or feelings:

The guy was an assh0le but didn't deserve to die for it. 

You can not post the in context version of those stances without disproving yourself.

[CouchPotato]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

There you go again. Among  other things Kirk was anti trans, thought the Civil Rights act was a mistake and black people were better off under Jim Crowe, said black women didn't have the mental capacity to do responsible jobs and that empathy was bullshit.

All taken out of context. It's not that he didn't believe in civil rights but that he disagreed with certain aspects of the act and that he felt it created a permanent bureaucracy. He did say blacks were better off in many ways in the past but not because of things like Jim Crowe. He did not say 'black women' do not have the mental capacity to do responsible jobs, but he did reference a few particular black women he felt did not have the capacity to do their job. And as for the empathy thing he said he did not like the word. He said he preferred the word sympathy. 

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You can not post the in context version of those stances without disproving yourself.

Sure I can. You could to if you bothered to do some research.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/viral-charlie-kirk-quotes

 

 

Edited September 12, 2025 by Aristides

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Sure I can. You could to if you bothered to do some research.

 

 

I don't know everything he ever said, but I do know how he thinks. So, since you are so sure you can, do it. Find an exa.ple that explicitly says what you claim he says. It has to be a direct quote, in full context. Not a one off that is out.of context.or interpreted by some hack.