Charlie Kirk shot!

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

No one is hired unless they are qualified. Maybe they got preference because of their colour or sex but they were just as qualified as any other applicant. That is something you know nothing id!i0ts need to understand.

This is the type of thinking that gave birth to DEI in the first place....

Your assuming everyone has the same qualifications, same experience, but that's not how life works... . in any job there is always many different people applying with a wide Varity of skills or experience...Why would you not give the job to the most qualified...white, black purple....

Why would you give preference to color or race ? ...Do you not see that as being a little racist...why not height, or weight, or IQ levels, or any of the millions other groups we could judge...

I seen this practice for many years in the military, more qualified candidates passed over for promotion because of color and sex...i mean take a look for the last search for CDS...all the candidates were women. Not because there was not any qualified men but because it was time to break another barrier for women....

These policies do not work....But i guess we can not trust anyone to hire the best qualified person, so to make up for all these mistakes of the past it is only fair to force us to break best hiring practices and let in those that would not normally get a chance at promotion...

Edited September 12, 2025 by Army Guy

[Army Guy]

On 9/10/2025 at 5:16 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Just a question: why do you only ban lefty-wing posters?

 

Lots of right wingers made fun of Pelosi's husband getting atta@cked as I recall.

 

Boges, Black Dog, waldo though...

 

Of course as a conservative, I feel safe in asking you this.

Ya Michael is right these guys are outstanding individuals, yes they seem to be on the fringe of the left side of normal, but fine outstanding gentlemen , so they foamed at the mouth when angry, shouted called people names, not sure what they contributed to the forum, but fine outstanding individuals.. I mean when you have to ask your self OK they are THAT guy...you've read about but never experienced and then it happens and your shocked how could a person be so screwed up.....This is the hill you want to die on Michael ? 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Like I said, this thread confirms it. You just provide an exclamation mark. 

 

You say a lot of stupid things. Did you have a point? Was this a stupid thing you were particularly proud of? Should I print it out and put it up on the fridge with a magnet?

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Where was your outrage when Melissa Hartman and her husband were shot?

Never even heard of it. Did you post a story here about it? No? Have you asked me my opinion about it? No?

Like I said you say a lot of stupid things. If you want to know my opinion I think that's absolutely horrible and absolutely intolerable. From the sounds of it someone dressed up like a cop and killed two political figures presumably because they disagreed with them. If that's the case it is horrific.

Obviously the motive in those cases will be a little less clear because it doesn't sound like she was a particularly polarizing or radical figure. But assuming that she was killed because of her politics and someone disagreed with it I find that utterly reprehensible.

Now what are you going to do? You still have something else to whine and cry about like you were a three year old? Do you have some other crime that I don't know about that somehow makes this less valid?

 

What kind of piece of shit human are you that you try and use a crime that I don't even know about to justify this murder? Is there no depth to which you on the left won't sink? They are both freaking horrible if you had asked me about one before I found out about the other I'd say exactly the same thing and always would

How do you look yourself in the mirror without throwing up? Trying to pretend that one tragedy isn't a tragedy because someone didn't know about a different tragedy is beyond contempt

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

There you go again. Among  other things Kirk was anti trans, thought the Civil Rights act was a mistake and black people were better off under Jim Crowe, said black women didn't have the mental capacity to do responsible jobs and that empathy was bullshit.

Empathy: The ability to identify with or understand another's situation or feelings:

I have sympathy for his family but why would I have any for someone who can't have empathy.

The guy was an assh0le but didn't deserve to die for it. 

None of that is true.

It's like the claims the left are trying to promote now that somehow he said that gays should be stoned which is an absolute lie.

You want to justify your own hatred and bad behavior. So to make yourself look like less of a villain you need him to look like more of a villain. And that is absolutely disgusting, that is severe garbage human behavior

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, West said:

The left hammered Donnie by lying about him calling neo Nazis fine people. Yet here they are "both sides-ing" the Charlie Kirk shooting. 

There's no fine people who shoot over someone's views 

Unfortunate that you CANNOT point out the BOTH SIDES which were FINE PEOPLE.

You do know that BOTH means TWO, don't you?

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, paxamericana said:

I think you’re conflating the American ideals against government tyranny and actual violence against people who we disagree with at a public debate. Those are two very different things. 

Not when the government PROMOTED TYRANY

6 hours ago, paxamericana said:

P.s, the 2020 election was stollen.

You should stop believing the PATHOLOGICAL LIAR; that ONLY makes you a MAGA FOOL.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

No one on our side is calling for the complete annihilation of the other side. Charlie Kirk said things he believed in. Polarizing speech is another way for saying he disagreed with the left. That is a right in a democratic society. He wasn't calling for violence. No one here praised the death of Melissa Hortman. If you asked CdnFox to condemn the attack he would do so instantly. Meanwhile up here in Canada we have a Liberal party that can't sign a condemnation of antisemitism tabled by one of their members. 

DELUGINAL keeps talking about DEPORTING ALL Democrats. Duh

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

 

Well in that case you'll probably appreciate this quote because I think the author nailed it.... pay attention to capitalized words

As I said previously...you are an lDIOT and IGNORAMUS.

In response to an equally despicable ad hominem aimed at me.

Of course YOU HAVE NO SHAME about removing the CONTEXT, so go fck yourself, LIAR.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Yeah. That is not a direct quote. He never said 'black women' do not have the brain processing power. 

In THIS POST on X Kirk did say that; only it was "we know that you...," talking about several black women which HE NAMES. 

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Of course YOU HAVE NO SHAME about removing the CONTEXT, so go fck yourself, LIAR.

Here fool.... eat a few more of your own words:

"Lashing out at me just demonstrates you can't handle the truth."

Edited September 12, 2025 by Venandi

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Unfortunate that you CANNOT point out the BOTH SIDES which were FINE PEOPLE.

You do know that BOTH means TWO, don't you?

Just what is wrong with you? Was the zucchini crop a bust this year?

Are you seriously saying there were not some fine folks on both sides that day?

[Aristides]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

None of that is true.

It's like the claims the left are trying to promote now that somehow he said that gays should be stoned which is an absolute lie.

You want to justify your own hatred and bad behavior. So to make yourself look like less of a villain you need him to look like more of a villain. And that is absolutely disgusting, that is severe garbage human behavior

What hatred and bags behaviour? Not my fault he said the things he said. I provided direct quotes, not making stuff up joke you.

[Venandi]

10 hours ago, Aristides said:

Among  other things Kirk was anti trans, thought the Civil Rights act was a mistake and black people were better off under Jim Crowe, said black women didn't have the mental capacity to do responsible jobs and that empathy was bullshit.

Nonsense.... but let's assume for the moment it's all true. Please explain how that makes his execution (somehow) OK, or understandable, tolerable, acceptable, justifiable or defendable in any way, shape or form on any level? While I think provocations are unwise, polarizing and even potentially dangerous when absorbed by weak minded fools like Robo, the person poking the bear certainly isn't guilty of anything that comes remotely close to being punishable by summary execution. 

Try this: find any politically motivated assassination in the US that MAGATs (right here on this forum) are unwilling to condemn without caveat or inclusions. Please feel free to centre me out on it because I can't think of a single one I wouldn't be willing to condemn out of hand.

There are places in the world where freedom of speech actually does come with a death sentence and after perusing some of the posts here it occurs to me that authors (such as yourself) have never been there.  

The deflections and justifications over what he said, how he said it, or vacant ideas that somehow it was a 30.06 bolt action rifle that did the killing all ring pretty hollow to anyone over the age of 12. The reason I know that is because I asked my granddaughter. The only thing worse IMO is cheap Robo hot air bluster and name calling; it impresses no one, it intimidates no one and it convinces NO ONE of anything.  

Even though I despise bullies, I would defend Robo's right to say what he wants even if what he says qualifies as a personal attack at a personal level resplendent with grade 3 level insults. That's simple rudeness and it's not the same as true hate speech, uttering threats or inciting violence against any person or identifiable group... we have laws to cover that and let me capitalize the important concept here and the entire point of this post....

IT ISN"T A CAPITAL OFFENCE WORTHY OF EXECUTION.

As soon as freedom of speech doesn't extend to things you find offensive (or things you disagree with), then freedom of speech ceases to exist and we all become the poorer for it. 

Edited September 12, 2025 by Venandi

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is the type of thinking that gave birth to DEI in the first place....

Your assuming everyone has the same qualifications, same experience, but that's not how life works... . in any job there is always many different people applying with a wide Varity of skills or experience...Why would you not give the job to the most qualified...white, black purple....

Why would you give preference to color or race ? ...Do you not see that as being a little racist...why not height, or weight, or IQ levels, or any of the millions other groups we could judge...

I seen this practice for many years in the military, more qualified candidates passed over for promotion because of color and sex...i mean take a look for the last search for CDS...all the candidates were women. Not because there was not any qualified men but because it was time to break another barrier for women....

These policies do not work....But i guess we can not trust anyone to hire the best qualified person, so to make up for all these mistakes of the past it is only fair to force us to break best hiring practices and let in those that would not normally get a chance at promotion...

And people like you look at someone who is black or female and assume they are there because they took someone else’s job without knowing a damn thing about their experience or qualifications. How would you feel if you were judged that way because of your colour or sex, because for hundreds of years people were denied jobs because they weren’t white or male.

[Venandi]

15 minutes ago, Aristides said:

And people like you look at someone who is black or female and assume they are there because they took someone else’s job without knowing a damn thing about their experience or qualifications.

That's exactly why DEI hiring and promotions are a bad idea. Do you really believe that black people (as a for instance) are unable to compete based solely on competence and ability.

Some of them actually find all of this DEI stuff personally insulting. They see it as something that tends to diminish their own worth and almost invariably, the very people who feel that way are the high achievers who don't need it. Only the people who lack those competencies (from what I've seen in the military) tend to defend the concept of DEI at all.

There are only two Combat Control Officers (CCOs) I've come across who I deeply admire and fondly remember with the utmost respect ... both were black, both were outstanding leaders under pressure and although I never thought to ask, I bet both of them are opposed to the DEI nonsense you seem to think they need. 

Please be assured that they don't and never did.

Edited September 12, 2025 by Venandi

[CouchPotato]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

In THIS POST on X Kirk did say that; only it was "we know that you...," talking about several black women which HE NAMES. 

Right. And that is a lot different from saying 'black women do not have the brain processing power'. Now, I know it's not just a coincidence that all those women were black, but he was talking about DEI. 

[gatomontes99]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

Unfortunate that you CANNOT point out the BOTH SIDES which were FINE PEOPLE.

It was both sides of the debate over statues. He did, explicitly say that neo nazis were not included. 

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'

But Trump was wrong. There are no fine people on the left any more. 

[CouchPotato]

59 minutes ago, Aristides said:

And people like you look at someone who is black or female and assume they are there because they took someone else’s job without knowing a damn thing about their experience or qualifications. 

I don't think most people go around assuming someone was a DEI hire. You have no way of knowing. But we do know that DEI exists, and that by it's very nature it's going to create situations where you have to reject candidates with more qualifications to prioritize race. 

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How would you feel if you were judged that way because of your colour or sex, because for hundreds of years people were denied jobs because they weren’t white or male.

Then, we should stop judging people based on race. Get rid of DEI. We won't hire based on race, and people won't be able to accuse people of being there because of their race. People freely gave a black person the top job in the country. They didn't need to be mandated to do so. That was almost two decades ago now. 

Edited September 12, 2025 by CouchPotato

[gatomontes99]

Asŝhole has been caught!

[User]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

And people like you look at someone who is black or female and assume they are there because they took someone else’s job without knowing a damn thing about their experience or qualifications. How would you feel if you were judged that way because of your colour or sex, because for hundreds of years people were denied jobs because they weren’t white or male.

Well, maybe Biden should not have said he was literally looking for someone based on their skin color...

 

[User]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

What hatred and bags behaviour? Not my fault he said the things he said. I provided direct quotes, not making stuff up joke you.

No, you outright lied. You provided a fabricated quote and refused to back down when that was repeatedly pointed out to you. 

[User]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

In THIS POST on X Kirk did say that; only it was "we know that you...," talking about several black women which HE NAMES. 

So, he didn't say that. You just contradicted yourself. 

The end point here being, he was NEVER trying to label "black women" in general as you and others keep lying about by pushing a false quote. 

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

In response to an equally despicable ad hominem aimed at me.

Of course YOU HAVE NO SHAME about removing the CONTEXT, so go fck yourself, LIAR.

As you just did the same damn thing... YOU ARE THE LIAR

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, User said:

No, you outright lied. You provided a fabricated quote and refused to back down when that was repeatedly pointed out to you. 

Lied about what?

[User]

10 hours ago, Aristides said:

So where did he get a degree?

I think hate was too strong a word but it doesn't surprise me he would be envious of black women who were far more qualified for cabinet jobs than he.

This is a lie: "No wonder he hated smart black women."

You are a liar. 

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Lied about what?

You are just playing dumb now, this has been pointed out repeatedly to you. He was not talking about "black women" in general and that was a fabricated quote. 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, CouchPotato said:

I don't think most people go around assuming someone was a DEI hire. You have no way of knowing. But we do know that DEI exists, and that by it's very nature it's going to create situations where you have to reject candidates with more qualifications to prioritize race. 

Then, we should stop judging people based on race. Get rid of DEI. We won't hire based on race, and people won't be able to accuse people of being there because of their race. People freely gave a black person the top job in the country. They didn't need to be mandated to do so. That was almost two decades ago now. 

You guys are such flaming hypocrites. People get jobs all the time because of connections and who they know that have nothing to do with their qualifications compared to others. Every now and then you see an article about captain so and so with such and such airline flying with his son as first officer. No doubt the kid is qualified and may be a fine pilot but if you don’t think his father being a captain at the airline had anything to do with him getting hired, you really are naive. We accept these things as matter of course and it’s only a problem when they don’t look like us/